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Korea's Falun Dafa Association held a press conference in front of the South Korean Ministry of Justice on Jan. 24, protesting the South Korean government's decision to secretly deport Falun Gong refugees back to China

The South Korean government quickly and quietly deported three Chinese refugees on Jan. 22; there, they face jail and torture.

The individuals were all practitioners of Falun Gong, a spiritual practice that is persecuted on the mainland.


The Korean Falun Dafa Association believes the deportations were instigated by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), who exerts political pressure on the South Korean government.

In this case the deportations were an act of retaliation, they said, because the CCP’s recent attempt to thwart Shen Yun Performing Arts in Korea failed. Shen Yun, a classical Chinese dance company that tours the globe, is hosted and supported by the Falun Dafa Association.

The statements were made on Jan. 24 at an improvised press conference held by the Association in front of the Ministry of Justice. They told the government to resist the CCP’s influence, safeguard Korea’s image, and defend the country’s sovereignty.

During the press conference Ms. Xu, the sister of one of the deportees, said that she found out about the deportation during a phone call with friends and family in China; she was not notified by the South Korean authorities until two days after the deportation, which is not a standard practice.

Ms. Xu said that the Chinese police not only know the identity of those Falun Gong practitioners, but also the details of the activities they engaged in while in Korea. They are thus in grave danger, she said.

Her own case serves as an example. When she went back to China to visit last year she was immediately detained by agents of the “610 Office,” an extrajudicial agency set up to coordinate and carry out the persecution of Falun Gong. She was interrogated for more than five hours.

The Chinese police told her words to the effect of: “We know your activities in South Korea, and the fact that your brother is at the detention center. Our people are over there; we even know all the phone numbers.” They then rattled off the names of the Falun Dafa Association volunteers, she said, apparently in an attempt to intimidate.

Given that she was put through that experience as a South Korean citizen, she said she can only imagine what might happen to her brother, who is still a Chinese citizen. Thousands of Falun Gong practitioners have been tortured to death since the persecution began 11 years ago.

The U.S.-based Global Mission to Rescue Persecuted Falun Gong Practitioners, a group of volunteers who monitor the welfare of and advocate for practitioners in China, tried to contact the deportees and their families. Family members of two said they were notified of the imminent deportation but were given no details. The third family said the individual had returned home but that they’re in pain over what happened and don’t want to talk further.

It was said that one of the deportees had already been badly tortured several times by police to the extent that the deportee could barely speak, but that remained unverified.

The Korean Falun Dafa Association believes that their government routinely deports practitioners after being pressured by the CCP. There is a clear pattern, they say, as well as a recent incident that gives credence to this.

Most recently the U.S.-based performing arts company Shen Yun was touring South Korea, and the CCP repeatedly attempted to get the show canceled in the city of Busan. After failing to stop the show in Busan, the Chinese Vice Consul General there, Jin Yanguang, went to pressure the Daegu city government one day before the performance there.

Officials in Daegu warned Jin: “You engage in this every year, don’t do it again, and leave!” Jin then said, ominously: “If the show performs, something major is going to happen.”

The deportations took place in short order. And nor was it the first time.

The Falun Dafa Association says that since July 2009 the government has forcibly deported seven Falun Gong refugee applicants on four separate occasions due to pressure from the Chinese regime. This violates the United Nations “Refugee Convention” and “Convention Against Torture,” they said, which South Korean has ratified.


The South Korean Ministry of Justice began receiving refugee applications from practitioners in 2002. While the authorities attempt to process them, the CCP interferes. At the same time, the Association says that the South Korean government learnt to use the refugee applications as political bargaining chips in dealing with the CCP.

Understandings along those lines may have been reached in meetings held between CCP and South Korean government officials.

In March 2005 the South Korean Minister of Justice at the time, Chun Jung-bae, met with Zhou Yongkang, one of the main culprits in the persecution. Shortly afterwards the Ministry rejected 32 Falun Gong refugee applications.

Chinese agents began showing up in court hearings, and Chinese media started publishing distorted stories about the applications.

Li Changchun, propaganda chief and member of the Politburo Standing Committee, the highest power center in the Party, visited South Korea in spring 2009. He is reported to have made clear that the Korean government should “kick Falun Gong practitioners out of South Korea.”

It wasn’t long before the Ministry of Justice got a lot speedier on Falun Gong refugee applications. A spate of deportations followed.

Falun Gong practitioners in Korea began their own campaign: to collect signatures of support. Eleven members of the South Korean Congress and 130 local Congress members put their names up, speaking out against the forced repatriations.

Around that time 23 U.S. House of Representatives sent a joint letter to the South Korean president Lee Myung-bak, also urging an end to the practice. The letter said that Korea, as a civilized country that respects human rights, should not ruin its reputation and forsake its integrity.

The portion of the public that knows what is happening is censorious of the government for it, The Epoch Times discovered in discussions and interviews over the last several weeks.

Source: theepochtimes

Date: 2011-01-30 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tofucakes.livejournal.com
The shit that the CCP has done to Falun Gong practitioners is disgusting.

I hope S.Korea doesn't cave in to more Chinese pressure.

Date: 2011-01-30 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] couturegirlxox.livejournal.com
oh god, those poor deportees D":

Date: 2011-01-30 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] couturegirlxox.livejournal.com
according to wiki, "Falun Gong places a heavy emphasis on morality in its central tenets – Truthfulness, Compassion, and Forbearance"... they sound like a peaceful movement to me... ugh the CCP -___-"

Date: 2011-01-31 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enchantark.livejournal.com
Please don't take the words at face value. They might seem like they are innocent, but I would advise you to not make any judgment until you have known someone who was part of this group.

Date: 2011-01-31 12:47 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-01-31 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] after-an.livejournal.com
SO TRUE! What China has done to them is crap but Falun Gong is seriously cult like.

Date: 2011-01-31 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 6rystalis.livejournal.com
Really have to agree...and those fundraisers...=.=;

Date: 2011-01-31 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yumenata.livejournal.com
My dad's a practitioner so I can make the judgment, and he tried to make me convert when I was younger but I decided not to. My opinion is that they are a peaceful movement. While some of their actions might seem "cult-like", they're just following what they believe in, and it's not really harming anyone.

Date: 2011-01-30 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] o-o-mai-o-o.livejournal.com
That's just not right.

Date: 2011-01-31 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinfulcherries.livejournal.com
dude no. Falun Gong is a fucking cult, after losing my cousin to those people I think I would know. :/

She refuses medicine for her child, preaches nonstop to everyone she meets, and has not worked in years because she's volunteering in that group, donates nearly all the child support to them and we can't even talk to her anymore, all she does all day is preach to us about how we should read that 'holy' book and 'transcend'.

I don't like the Chinese government, but they are right about one thing, Falun Gong is a cult.

Date: 2011-01-31 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] after-an.livejournal.com
Oh I replied to your other entry before I saw this. I have two friends who are heavily involved in Falun Gong stuff - one of them dances for Shen Yun and tours the world with them actually (he left when we were in year ten so I don't even know what's going on with him education wise, I'm in my third year of uni now).

When the other friend was sick, she refused any medicine and said she'd do her exercises to get rid of it. She doesn't go as far as your cousin but she would promote it and she tried to convert a few of our friends into it. The whole thing screams cult.

And I know the Chinese government has treated them like crap but this Falun Gong stuff is pretty wtf too.

Date: 2011-01-31 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yumenata.livejournal.com
Yeah, one of my friends also joined the dance troupe. My dad tried to make me, but I refused to. :P I guess part of the issue is that those kids who are in the dance troupe sacrificed their education. And really, it was their decision to, just like it was my decision not to.

Part of the reason why they try to convert people is that unlike other religions such as Christianity, Judaism...etc, not a lot of people are born into it. So from a logical perspective how do people find out about Falun Gong if they weren't born into it or knew about it from someone?

Date: 2011-01-31 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angabel.livejournal.com
"When the other friend was sick, she refused any medicine and said she'd do her exercises to get rid of it... The whole thing screams cult."

I have a couple of atheist friends who refuse to take any medications. Does that make atheism a cult?

Likewise, some hardcore Jainists (there's a term, but I forget what it is, sorry) who are very, very bent into non-violence to the point where they will not take things like antibiotics because the diseases they're suffering from are caused by organisms and they do not want to harm them--does that make Jainism a cult?

I admit, I'm coming off a little harsh here and I know it. It just really bothers me how quickly some people rush into the "cult" label just because, for example, someone personally decides not to take medications. And I still stand by my other statement that I don't care, the sheer act of belonging to what may or may not be a "cult" does not mean that you should be thrown in jail or tortured for your beliefs.

Date: 2011-01-31 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] after-an.livejournal.com
There are other features of it that enforce why I believe it's a cult but that was just an example I used because she was sick from school for a bit because she kept saying she would be fine. I don't we should pop pills for no reason but when she wasn't getting better, it seemed to be a bad idea to not do anything about it.

I don't have anything against religion or anything but when your beliefs prevent you from considering other views, that's a problem. And that was why a lot of us took issue with my friend's Falun Gong beliefs.

Date: 2011-01-31 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angabel.livejournal.com
"I don't have anything against religion or anything but when your beliefs prevent you from considering other views, that's a problem"

Are you saying that when someone's beliefs prevent them from considering another view, that that is when it becomes a cult?

If so, holy hell, most of us belong to one "cult" or another. ;)

I stand by the "whatever you do/don't want to put in your body is fine by me" so I really don't understand why the refusal to take medicine is something that's being focused on here.

Date: 2011-01-31 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] after-an.livejournal.com
No I was just emphasising that aspect because that was one example of what happened. And as for the cult thing, I was referring to things like a charismatic leader and what he purports is true.

Look, obviously you don't want to tag it as a cult and I do, agree to disagree at least?

Date: 2011-01-31 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinfulcherries.livejournal.com
Their beliefs are harming individuals, that's the problem. Not all members are like my cousins, but the vast majority of them are. My cousin not only dragged her husband into debt, but also almost killed her daughter because she refused her medicine, my uncle had to fight my cousin to take her daughter away. In any normal circumstance the kid would have taken away from the parents, but the courts ruled against because it was Falun Gong.

Ever wonder why China picks on Falun Gong all the time, when there are Christians, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims and every other religion in China? Falun Gong not only preaches homophobia, encourages you to donate money to "gain karma", but states eternal damnation for mixed children because we're sorted into heaven by race. The leader says that he can fly, and stop trains, heal any disease, that we have little eyes in our foreheads and Africa has a 2 billion year nuclear reactor.

So forgive if I am a little sensitive about this after losing my cousin to them, being harassed by other members for the past 3 years and having this propaganda shoved down my throat every single day.

Date: 2011-01-31 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angabel.livejournal.com
I am sorry if I struck a nerve. This is why I did not reply to you, in fact.

For whatever wrong that the Falun Gong has done and encourages, I still do not believe that China is the right to toss followers in jail and torture them. Prosecute them for actual crimes that they may have committed (such as, for example, neglect in a possible case of a child dying that could be saved through medicine [even though I am not sure how I personally feel about certain incidences of this]), yes, but that is not what China has been known to do.

And actually, China picks on Tibetan Buddhists too--the whole not being allowed to own a picture of His Holiness the Dalai Lama among other silly laws.

tl;dr I'm sorry if I struck a nerve and would imagine that for as much as we may or may not disagree on Falun Gong, we might both agree that Korea deporting Falun Gong refugees back to China where they face jail time and possible torture simply for having a certain religious belief is really rather awful, especially since the two countries have resorted to using people in their political games.

Date: 2011-01-31 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angabel.livejournal.com
Falun Gong may or may not be a cult, but no one deserves to face jail time or torture for their beliefs, so long as their beliefs are not harming individuals. Meaning, Falun Gong practitioners in China should NOT be thrown in jail and tortured *because* they practice. (Maybe *what* they practice, if they are indeed doing illegal and harmful things. But then again, according to China, there's a lot you can do that's considered "illegal" there that is actually a violation of human rights.)

I know a lot of individuals who are do not belong to Falun Gong, some of whom are Christian and some of whom are atheist, who refuse to give medicine for their child/preach all the time/what-not.

Date: 2011-01-31 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yumenata.livejournal.com
Thank you for your comment. I don't really like hearing about how Falun Gong is a cult and how crazy they are and such.

I hate how some people get detained in China just for carrying their version of a holy text...just carrying it...*sigh*

Date: 2011-01-31 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cindel.livejournal.com
I had no idea Shen Yun was connected to Falun Gong. They're touring in the DC area.

I always thought they were religion group that Chinese government persecuted for no reason.

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