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Below is a raw translation of an article in the Sports Chosun about the rumor pertaining to SNSD’s Jessica that can be found here.

Our comments will follow the article.



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“What is the truth behind SNSD Jessica’s alleged sexual harassment?

An English-based Hallyu celebrity news site allkpop posted footage from the 12th Korean-Chinese Music Festival that was directly filmed by a Chinese fan. They titled it ‘Jessica Sexual Harassment’ because they thought a man was inappropriately touching Jessica during the goodbye ending stage.

allkpop stated, ‘In the video, right after Jessica says the ending speech on behalf of the group, she quickly turns to Hyoyeon and seems to whisper something into her ear. Hyoyeon then looks in the direction of the man to the right of Jessica (from the videographer’s vantage point) in apparent shock and disgust at something, while Jessica proceeds to move to the far left where Sooyoung is standing. Meanwhile, the man on the right slowly begins to remove himself from the scene, as he walks out of sight to the right.’

Along with this description, they provided a link to the video and posted a fan picture of Jessica’s unhappy face as if Jessica really was molested.

However it was recently confirmed their allegations were in fact false. First of all, the video the Chinese fan directly filmed themselves was shaky and it is impossible to tell whether the man next to her really did act inappropriately. A representative of SNSD’s agency, SM Entertainment, came forth to state, “The rumor is not true at all. If something like that happened at the scene, we would have taken immediate action. Please do not misunderstand the situation to be something it isn’t.”

With their malicious reports, allkpop has damaged the image of SNSD. To be honest, it is not the first time allkpop has scarred the Hallyu Wave. This site spreads rumor material in order to raise their viewer numbers for the site. In 2008, they described Big Bang’s ‘For the World’ album as ‘The biggest musical disaster in 10 years’, and more recently they stated, ‘Japanese girl group SND48 are not able to debut in Korea because of the negative remarks of Korean netizens’, and ‘Lee Da Hae belittled Filipinos’, thus intentionally spreading distorted truths and encouraging an anti-Hallyu Wave.

The problem lies with allkpop’s ripple effect. allkpop is the representative English-based Hallyu celebrity news site with over 1 million readers. It is a very famous site that many international fans visit, with a popularity so great that even the cyber diplomatic missions site ‘VANK‘ (Voluntary Agency Network of Korea) would post promotional news on their notice board. Therefore rumors such as “A famous singer getting molested at an international event” would be regarded as the real truth to international fans, which can potentially be harmful to Korea’s national image.

Netizens have been voicing out, ‘Why are they talking bad about SNSD’, ‘I don’t have an answer for allkpop. I think there’s a problem with the administrator,’ ‘Isn’t this a national disgrace’.”



To be honest, we debated even addressing this article, partially because of the sheer ridiculousness of it all, and partially because we have already written about these concerns in the recent past. However, this new attack has forced us to address the article because we feel disconcerted about two issues:

1) The fact that the ‘Sports Chosun’ writer has chosen to brush off these allegations about sexual harassment in order to attach an ‘anti-Hallyu wave’ sentiment to allkpop belittles the issue of sexual harassment to ‘Sports Chosun’ readers.

2) The fact that the minute allkpop posts a rumor or controversy, we become credited with demonizing Korea.



We’ll begin by tackling the first issue.

The mere suggestion that allkpop damaged the reputation of SNSD because we published a story about a man ‘allegedly’ touching Jessica in an inappropriate manner is borderline offensive, not only to the intelligence of every reader, but to every woman who has had to endure humiliating unwanted advances. In fact, we’re going to say the nonchalant attitude shown in the article is out-and-out warped.

Why in the world would a man inappropriately touching a woman damage the reputation of the woman? If the rumor were true, shouldn’t the writer’s outrage be turned against the man in question and not the reputation of the woman? Our issue with the writer has absolutely nothing to do with whether the rumor is true or false, and everything to do with the writer’s suggestion that a woman being inappropriately touched somehow reflects negatively on the female.

Instead of investigating what actually did happen, the writer took the opportunity to launch a hate campaign against allkpop, which I suppose speaks to the true intention of covering the rumor in the first place.

Either way, Jessica is purportedly the victim of an embarrassing situation, and SNSD has become victimized as well by this writer’s idiotic swing at us. We’re seriously puzzled over how the writer can gloss over the sexual harassment situation in order to lash out and assert that, by reporting on it, allkpop causes fans to hate on Korea.



Which brings us to our second point.

In case you missed it before, here’s the first time allkpop got attacked with a ridiculous claim from the Korean media. We intended for that response to be the be-all, end-all bulwark against accusations of being an anti-Hallyu hate-mongerer.

Unfortunately, that response was clearly ignored in favor of more juicy stories to ’support’ the writer’s argument. From our view, there is a clear problem when the writer chooses to spin what is clearly stated as a rumor article into some grand scheme by allkpop to ruin the image of SNSD and Korea.

There are so many articles that promote K-pop on this site, an overwhelming majority, but the moment one article addresses a controversy or a rumor, we are anti-Hallyu wave again. It’s as if the only thing they can tolerate from an international Korean entertainment site are positive, glowing reports about everyone and everything – as if we should pretend that nothing bad ever happens in K-pop.

Hilariously though, in the ultimate double standard, the Korean entertainment media apparently feels free to post about rumors and netizen comments all they want in order to sell papers and get hits on their site, but apparently we aren’t allowed to post up international rumors and international netizens comments. No, not an international site, because when an international site does exactly the same thing that the Korean media does, it’s apparently anti-Korea by their logic.

It’s offensive to us because K-pop has gone international, and we all have a deep love for it, but it’s frustrating to see that certain Korean media members do not seem to be able to come to terms with the fact that with the internationalization of their product will come international fans and international opinions.

As allkpop grows, we are certain that this is not the last time we will be criticized by the Korean press, but as our readers, you can be rest assured that these baseless attacks against our integrity and purpose will not lead to allkpop leaving our readers in the dark about any events just to avoid silly attacks such as this. We will continue to serve you as best as we can, and that’s a promise.

source: akp & sports chosun

Firstly, the article is titled "WAS SNSD's Jessica touched inappropriately by a man?" not "SNSD's Jessica WAS touched inappropriately by a man."

Secondly.. I've never sided with AKP on anything before. This.. feels strange and new.
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Date: 2010-12-08 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tribuo-venerati.livejournal.com
I read this last night and was am still so outraged by the whole situation. In regards to the article, whether or not Jessica was a victim of this case, the Chosun writer's dismissive attitude toward the charges infuriates me.

Date: 2010-12-08 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedevil0289.livejournal.com
completely agree.

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Date: 2010-12-08 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inudela.livejournal.com
for once, I'm admiring akp's response. I guess it's all down to the writers in the end.

Date: 2010-12-08 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabledlamb.livejournal.com
Admirable indeed, especially in the face of those ridiculous accusations and that attitude towards women being sexually harassed! They reacted really intelligently by addressing all the claims made by that newspaper in a calm and reasonable manner.

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Date: 2010-12-08 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pumpkinskin.livejournal.com
ngl
this writer vs. akp would be fun to see

Date: 2010-12-08 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bauci.livejournal.com
omg your icon

Date: 2010-12-08 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] letsrelapse.livejournal.com
"In 2008, they described Big Bang’s ‘For the World’ album as ‘The biggest musical disaster in 10 years’"
Excuse you.

Date: 2010-12-08 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] letsrelapse.livejournal.com
also, I agree with akp. Really don't see how questioning something damages SNSDs image.

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AKP never liked BIGBANG

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Re: AKP never liked BIGBANG

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Date: 2010-12-08 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bmo.livejournal.com
I haven't finished reading but how did allkpop damage SNSD's image.. that makes no sense B|

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Date: 2010-12-08 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 831panda831.livejournal.com
In the end AKP's core is still good. Without AKP , the hallyu wouldn't be as succesful as it is now. Korea needs to recognize that.

Date: 2010-12-08 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuxo.livejournal.com
lmao wtf is this crap. idek what to call it. how is there still such ceaseless systematic marginalization of a huge problem?

Date: 2010-12-08 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taecish.livejournal.com
jessica wasn't asking to get molested, i don't see how it ruins snsd's image

it just makes the chinese guy look like a creepy fuck

Date: 2010-12-08 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedevil0289.livejournal.com
The mere suggestion that allkpop damaged the reputation of SNSD because we published a story about a man ‘allegedly’ touching Jessica in an inappropriate manner is borderline offensive, not only to the intelligence of every reader, but to every woman who has had to endure humiliating unwanted advances. In fact, we’re going to say the nonchalant attitude shown in the article is out-and-out warped.

Why in the world would a man inappropriately touching a woman damage the reputation of the woman? If the rumor were true, shouldn’t the writer’s outrage be turned against the man in question and not the reputation of the woman? Our issue with the writer has absolutely nothing to do with whether the rumor is true or false, and everything to do with the writer’s suggestion that a woman being inappropriately touched somehow reflects negatively on the female.

Instead of investigating what actually did happen, the writer took the opportunity to launch a hate campaign against allkpop, which I suppose speaks to the true intention of covering the rumor in the first place.

Either way, Jessica is purportedly the victim of an embarrassing situation, and SNSD has become victimized as well by this writer’s idiotic swing at us. We’re seriously puzzled over how the writer can gloss over the sexual harassment situation in order to lash out and assert that, by reporting on it, allkpop causes fans to hate on Korea.


this entire thing. that sports chosun writer needs to stfu.

Date: 2010-12-08 08:06 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-12-08 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allisnotlost.livejournal.com
WTF to this whole situation!

Date: 2010-12-08 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nepherefirefly.livejournal.com
"With their malicious reports, allkpop has damaged the image of SNSD" -- i feel like every couple of months their image gets "damaged" for some reason or another....

"allkpop causes fans to hate on Korea." -- i must have missed how the article was supposed to be making people hate Korea... i can see getting people to hate that guy, but not the country.

i kinda feel bad for allkpop about this. they really didn't do much that was wrong, thye just asked a question and let people judge what they would. the writer of the second article pretty much freaked, tho...

*waits for everyone to move on to the next bit of news*

JAESUK IS NOT AMUSED

Date: 2010-12-08 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harkk.livejournal.com
Image (http://tinypic.com?ref=2envmg4)

If allkpop is anti-hallyu, then black is white. Seriously, ide.

Date: 2010-12-08 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mei-zi.livejournal.com
akp makes a good point for once.

Date: 2010-12-08 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daifukuu.livejournal.com
what managa is this from?

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Date: 2010-12-08 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akita-ino.livejournal.com
not surprised, in a man oriented country like Korea something of this nature is always the girl's fault. they're either being too sexy, or too revealing, moving too suggestive, shaking their ass and boobs into the mans' faces, how else should they react than grope at it?

tsk, of course it'd be Jessica's fault if the man touched her. so yeah, allkpop, stop writing about it or mentioning it anywhere, 'cause if the man touched her, she was provoking it! SNSD's image is at stake, because they have a member that acts too sexy, too suggestive towards men!

I don't know where to go with my rage... really, what are these Korean people thinking?

Date: 2010-12-08 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferrrrari.livejournal.com
No one said it was Jessica's fault. SM said that she wasn't touched in the first place.

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Date: 2010-12-08 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adeqjue.livejournal.com
hurm..the last thing i wud do in this fandom is go to AKP. ㄱ.ㄱ

Date: 2010-12-08 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faramis.livejournal.com
But the reason that Kpop is getting so popular with english speaking audiences is because of allkpop, though.

Date: 2010-12-08 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeebs.livejournal.com
Writer will get a lot of emails soon.. flood.
This will come back to bit you in the ass, SME.

Date: 2010-12-08 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gumdrop-showers.livejournal.com
Image

Sports Chosun... you need to sit down, back away from the internet, and LOOK AT THE BIG FUCKING PICTURE. Gdi. >:(

Date: 2010-12-08 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riiche.livejournal.com
I don't even have the words.

This whole thing just makes me so angry.

Date: 2010-12-08 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslemonbar.livejournal.com
And for the first time:

allkpop, you are A+.

Not going to lie, most of the time the bias in allkpop articles is ridiculous and I have several issues with the site, however - everything they said here is spot on.

Someone needs to translate akp's response and send it to that damn Sports Chosen. Let's see how the netizens react then.

Date: 2010-12-09 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djskully.livejournal.com
"Someone needs to translate akp's response and send it to that damn Sports Chosen. Let's see how the netizens react then."

yes.

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Date: 2010-12-08 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeyfunnybunny.livejournal.com
What the heck?
The lack of sympathy for Jessica in this entire accusation is really scary. I would have been happy that they stood up for SNSD's name if it wasn't because they were afraid of SNSD's name getting damaged - but maybe, let's say, speak up against sexual harassment?

but This site spreads rumor material in order to raise their viewer numbers for the site. is the main reason why i never go to allkpop and only read their "articles" when they're posted here but usually it's something i don't even bother commenting.

Date: 2010-12-08 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeyfunnybunny.livejournal.com
Why in the world would a man inappropriately touching a woman damage the reputation of the woman? If the rumor were true, shouldn’t the writer’s outrage be turned against the man in question and not the reputation of the woman? Our issue with the writer has absolutely nothing to do with whether the rumor is true or false, and everything to do with the writer’s suggestion that a woman being inappropriately touched somehow reflects negatively on the female.
damn right.

but i gotta say, i'm impressed by the way they are handling this and the lack of sexual jokes in the original article they wrote.
still won't follow the site though.

Date: 2010-12-08 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeit91.livejournal.com
shit just got real.

A+ for akp
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Date: 2010-12-08 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
"Whoever wrote the reply for allkpop should write all of their articles."

IA.

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Date: 2010-12-08 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbrella-smile.livejournal.com
They think such an article would cause hate towards Korea because that is the kind of reaction THEY have towards articles about other countries. They criticize because they are guilty.

Korea had such a sexist society, not even the "oops sorry that was sexist" crap you see in western countries, but blatant, women are lower than men sexism. By saying, being sexually harassed is tarnishing her reputation, they are basically saying it was her fault and she should feel ashamed.

just some further thoughts to throw out...

Date: 2010-12-08 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tribuo-venerati.livejournal.com
NOT THAT I AGREE WITH THIS, but I kind of understand the Chosun article writer. I think there's a Korean tendency to want to keep things "in the house" - meaning, the whole concept of "saving face" is probably a big component of this. Had the original article been a Korean one rather than an international one, the response wouldn't have been nearly as passionate. It's like how you can complain about your parents to your siblings, but you wouldn't badmouth them to others.

That being said, one's following reaction might be: "Okay, but Jessica didn't do anything wrong, so why does she need to 'save face' in this situation? AKP didn't expose anything wrong on the part of the Koreans in this article."

TRUE. However there are at least three parts to this:
1. Koreans are proud of the Hallyu wave. Any sort of scandal is a considered a threat/detriment to one of their biggest sources of pride AND of one of the largest economic sectors
2. SNSD are precious, darling, dear daughers of Korea and I think in the eyes of the writer this situation "tainted" them. Sure they can wear short shorts and dance to all the ajusshis' delight, but IRL sexual situations are a big no-no.
3. The (unfortunate) culture of shame surrounding sexual harrassment victims

Anyways, thanks if you even bother taking the time to read this. I'd like your thoughts on this as well :]

Re: just some further thoughts to throw out...

Date: 2010-12-08 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbrella-smile.livejournal.com
It hurts the Hallyu wave even more when nothing is being done. No one in the west wants to be associated with anything that turns a blind eye to harassment.
If they intend on spreading the wave further they need to understand what is right and wrong in the places they want to hook.

Sure they can wear short shorts and dance to all the ajusshis' delight, but IRL sexual situations are a big no-no.

Which is ridiculous because SHE didn't initiate it, but of course there it is always the woman's fault.
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