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We all know those people or dramas or movies that everyone loves but you don’t quite like. And there are always our beloved actors that no one likes but you couldn’t live without. Here I give you my highly controversial list of who I think are the most underrated and overrated people or things in the Korean Entertainment scene.


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5. Dong Bang Shin Ki -Yeah, I said it. Yes, most of the guys in this group can sing, yes Junsu has a bubble butt, yes, Yunho is a great dancer, and okay, I concede that Jae Joong is really good-looking. (Oh, and I guess the other two are okay too). They are the Gods Rising in the East, they have the biggest fanclub in the world and if a bad word is said about them you better watch your butt because a Cassie will be on you before you can put a period on that sentence. Why are they overrated? For a group with so many fans, so much popularity and immense super stardom in Korea and Japan, I’m waiting for music that is something better than the SM manufactured, over-produced, fake sentimental stuff that they consistently put out. For a group with such loyal fans I’m waiting for Yoochun and Changmin to exhibit a reason for why they’re irreplaceable.

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4. Super Junior - Yeah, I said it. Super Junior has 13 guys, they have 3 very good singers, they are spread all over the entertainment world, acting, VJing and the likes. They have grown a strong fanbase through their antics and, not excluding, the subgroups they’ve garnered an extremely loyal fanbase. Why are they overrated? Sorry, Sorry but they have 13 members, only 3 of them are good enough singers to be paid for it, people buy their albums because they’re cute or funny or (insert adjective that has nothing to do with music here), they have a strong fanbase of the most butthurt fans to walk the face of the earth. Jesus’ disciples weren’t even as butthurt after the whole Judas betrayal thing as the average ELF would be if you called Shindong fat. I will be skinned alive for it but Super Junior is not. that. great. Dancing is great, so is being funny, so is kissing boys for “fan service” but at the end of the day do they really need to be in a 13 member group making their forgettable music?

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3. Kim Tae Hee, Kim Ah Joong and other CF queens - They are two of the most famous CF queens in Korea and arguably the prettiest. They has done what some only dream of doing (and many more actually do) which is minimal acting and skating through your career living on CFs. This is amazing. Why is Kim Ah Joong overrated? Besides “200 Pound Beauty” not being that great she also hasn’t exhibited any impressive acting either, charming and passable isn’t quite Oscar worthy. Why is Kim Tae Hee overrated? Yes she’s pretty but last I checked she couldn’t actually act. We’ll see how she fairs in IRIS and I’m hoping for my sake that she has learned how to act in the years she spent selling everything from Ice cream to kimchi fridges.'=



2. Ahn So Hee - She is in the most popular girl group in Korea (Wonder Girls), and she is the most popular member in that group because she’s cute and looks like a dumpling. Why is she overrated? She can’t sing and her dancing is questionable, (critics are split over the actual quality of her dancing skills). All I needed to prove (or disprove) singing or dancing ability was her lovely rendition of “Single Ladies”.

1. Boys Over Flowers - Haha Oh YES, I said it. The number one overrated thing in the K-Entertainment scene recently is the third re-imagining of “Boys Over Flowers”, “Kgot Boda Namja”. The drama is the most popular weekly drama of the year so far, it had a huge legacy to follow and, if you go by the ratings, it lived up to the hype. Gu Hye Sun and Lee Minho had great chemistry and are fine actors in their own right, Kim So Eun, was perfect as Ga Eul and endearing as an actress, Kim Joon earned his stripes and Kim Bum was consistent. Why is this drama overrated? Where should I start…. Hyun Joong used this drama more like an acting class, learning how to act while the drama went on. The music was horrid and overused, the script was a handful of clichés, the editing could have been done better by my house plants and socio-cultural implications of the drama left my brain numb. I don’t want to be too dismissive of the drama by calling it bad but I believe the negative points outweighed the positive to the nth degree.

Now to the Most Underrated people or things in Kpop:



5. BoA’s “Eat You Up” - Everyone, myself included, was slightly taken aback by this single. There was a lot of: “Um, what’s she saying”, “Eat You Up? Right…” “OMG BoA must have lost her mind”. The lyrics were silly and the incoherence permeated it in parts (specifically the “I’ll eat you up, your love, you looOooOve” part). But after more and more listens of the song, the good pop sound of it comes out more. The hot beat, the falsetto, the dancing in the music video it all comes together for a great summer hit.

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4. Rain - In some circles (or maybe just the ones I run in), Rain–I’m sorry, “The Rain”–being brought up in conversations is usually to set up some kind of joke. He has embarrassed himself plenty in his transition to the United States entertainment scene. Why is he underrated? Well, this guy has achieved so much in the past two years. He was in that flop “Speed Racer” but because of “Speed Racer” Rain is in the public eye. The Wachowski Brothers love him and he is now starring in the Comic-Con geek wet dream, “Ninja Assassin” (coming soon to a theater near you). He released his world album and despite trouble with dumb censors and his “magic stick” he had a hit single at the end of last year. Oh and he has mastered the English language. Rain, as silly as he can make himself look at times, is going no where but up.

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3. Jung Il Woo - He had the bad luck of being in the second drama reworking of the Iljimae legend (following Lee Junki’s super-popular “Iljimae”) and even after the moderate success of that he isn’t quite the superstar like his good friend Lee Minho. But this guy is a good actor, he’s humble and he doesn’t seem to have fallen into the pitfalls of fame in Korea, i.e. making an ass out of yourself by cross-dressing, doing lame advertisements and kissing boys for fun.



2. Dong Bang Shin Ki - Oh, what’s this? Yes, DBSK is one of the most underrated groups in Kpop. Their music for the most part is uninspired, falling on the bad side of the pop spectrum and they have some of the more annoying diehard fans in kpop (ahem, yes Jaejoong diehards, I’m talking about you). But why are they underrated? These. Boys. Can. Sing. Well, not all of them can sing as well as my stilted phrase before implies but let’s start with Junsu. Amazing, amazing voice. My soon-to-be-uber-famous friend thinks he sounds like a dolphin. I think he has one of the strongest voices in Kpop. If Junsu wasn’t in DBSK, I wouldn’t care about the rest of them, but he is so here’s the rest of them. Jaejoong has a strong versatile voice, Yunho’s voice has finally come into it’s own and he is now the third best singer in the group (and seriously, who would have thought that was possible?) Changmin has a voice but he still doesn’t know how to use and Yoochun is capable of singing but does not have a great voice. But overall, when together and everyone is on top of their game, these boys are GOLD. So let’s give them credit for being talented, ja?

1. Brown Eyed Girls, Big Mama, Park Hwayobi, Gummy and all the other female singers in Korea that don’t get enough love - These women are some of the best singers in Kpop. Yes, there are good singers in SNSD, but they have nothing on any of the women listed above. And, okay, Sun Ye is a good singer, but as much as I love her and Ye Eun from Wonder Girls, they’re no where near as disciplined as Park Hwayobi or Gummy or Ga-In of Brown Eyed Girls. Call me conservative but I don’t care if you can dance or are good looking if you can’t sing. If you are releasing albums as a singer you should be able to sing, and sing well. Big Mama, undebatably amazing singers, is better any day than most of the pop-fluff that the youngens waste their parent’s money on. They depend on talent, not distracting concepts and images to sell records. Brown Eyed Girls needed these same idol tactics to have their talent even marginally noticed and Park Hwayobi and Gummy are still on the fringe because they stuck to their roots and released music that showcased their voices and not lollipops, miniskirts or fake virginal personas.

But that’s just my list. Who or what do you think are the most overrated or underrated in Korean Entertainment?

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So, DBSK is both underrated and overrated? Is anyone else confused? I refuse to accept that BOF is overrated, especially with the awesomeness that is Prince Song.

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Date: 2009-05-17 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -ochre.livejournal.com
lol seoulbeats is just full of nonsense.

I’m waiting for Yoochun and Changmin to exhibit a reason for why they’re irreplaceable.

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Date: 2009-05-17 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -ochre.livejournal.com
To be honest, I hope the DBSK fangirls don't go crazy here lmao.

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Date: 2009-05-17 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiahtic.livejournal.com
For a group with such loyal fans I’m waiting for Yoochun and Changmin to exhibit a reason for why they’re irreplaceable.

uhhhh. because they are yoochun and changmin. and that's all anyone needs to know.
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Date: 2009-05-26 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skystreaked.livejournal.com
agreed :|||

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Date: 2009-05-17 01:00 am (UTC)
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Goddamnit Shanny, now I really want to eat some xiaolongbao.

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Date: 2009-05-17 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinyknots.livejournal.com
ialsothinkthatdbskisoverrated -_-

But I think ft island is really really underrated. They're more popular in sotuheast Asia than their own home country!

Date: 2009-05-17 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lennoxs.livejournal.com
lmao it still makes me laugh how we totally flipped opinions on dbsk.

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Date: 2009-05-17 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -ochre.livejournal.com
Although IA on the part that the Korean women don't get enough love. Brown Eyd Girls are a decent bunch of singers and I hope they don't go the same cute route as KARA did. :( I saw KARA's debut video and perf and goddamn they were fierce then.

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Date: 2009-05-17 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] des-akazim.livejournal.com
tvxq is super overrated, but why the yoochun and changmin hate?
yoochun is a developing composer, and changmin has one of the strongest voices (ok ok, it's a hit or miss sometimes, but he can belt it out on a good day)

Date: 2009-05-17 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] des-akazim.livejournal.com
also, I'm confused. everytime a girl group DOES get some attention, they're shoved aside as fake/not good/ etc etc. um, they ENTERTAIN. it's almost as if in order to be considered "talented" they can't have any hype. B\ (I'm just bitter about 2ne1's negative reception for a damn catchy debut)

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Date: 2009-05-17 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thenylonkid.livejournal.com
I believe DBSK is overrated but them being on both lists is just WTF!!!! Pick one!

Date: 2009-05-17 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aistay.livejournal.com
your icon makes me head hurt

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Date: 2009-05-17 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sixpoint.livejournal.com
I totally agree with your Number 1 most underrated.
As for underrated in kpop I really think that Clazziquai needs to be mentioned, because everyone I know who have heard them love them.
I'm guessing the reason why they aren't so popular as the preppy teen bands is because that's what Clazziquai are not? :S
imo you will be underrated if your music doesn't sound like WG, SNSD, DBSK.. D: D:

Date: 2009-05-17 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -ochre.livejournal.com
And you'll be overrated if you sound are like WG, SNSD, DBSK

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Date: 2009-05-17 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handycliche.livejournal.com
I LOVE BRITNEY OMG.

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Date: 2009-05-17 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cajaalonso.livejournal.com
I even already know DBSK will be on the lists w/o looking at it.

Date: 2009-05-17 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vanillacakes.livejournal.com
brown eyed girls <3

otherwise these lists kind of suck, though i do have to agree sohee is overrated.

Date: 2009-05-17 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] originaru.livejournal.com
SuJu and DBSK are only overrated if you're actually expecting ~~~groundbreaking~~~ musical genius from them. They're "boybands" who were put together to make money. If you're like me and you love the manufactured pop, then it's all good, isn't it? I will say that DBSK has the potential to do a lot more because yeah, they have the pipes.

I'm not a big Wonder Girls fan, but I always thought Sohee was the fugliest LOL Don't kill me :/

Date: 2009-05-17 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokyolovelite.livejournal.com
I agree with you XD Although I think DBSK is overrated even if I do love them and SuJu is underrated when there is no good music and they are overrated when there is. Kind of confusing? Or I'm just not deep enough in the SuJu fandom yet.

So Hee scares me. So um yea.

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Date: 2009-05-17 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xradiostatic.livejournal.com
er...so is dbsk overrated AND underrated? okay... :/

i agree so so so much with #1 underrated. especially big mama and hwayobi. their voices are amazing. *_*

Date: 2009-05-17 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proleptical.livejournal.com
I don't really get how Super Junior is overrated, to be honest. I don't know anyone but the hardcore ELFs that claim they are amazing or groundbreaking or whatever. Most people either don't take them seriously at all (which is a shame because KRY have AMAZING voices) or they enjoy them because they are fun and, yeah, they do have catchy songs and some very good singers/dancers but don't go claiming they are the new Beatles or whatever.

I do agree with this, though:

they have a strong fanbase of the most butthurt fans to walk the face of the earth. Jesus’ disciples weren’t even as butthurt after the whole Judas betrayal thing as the average ELF would be if you called Shindong fat.

I recently read some of the Only 13, anti-Henry and Zhoumi shit out there and... holy cow. I can't believe people can have so much hatred for someone they don't know and hasn't done anything to them. It's disgusting. And the fact that they view every single member as perfect and as people that you can't even joke about is just very off putting.

I'm new to the whole fanclub thing because most of the time I just go to fan forums for news and avoid venturing into the whole fangirlish parts of those places but the one time I did, I got enough to know I rather stay and outsider to the fandom and fangirl Super Junior over here with the omona people!

tl'dr sorry.

Date: 2009-05-17 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -ochre.livejournal.com
Jesus’ disciples weren’t even as butthurt after the whole Judas betrayal thing as the average ELF would be if you called Shindong fat.

LMFAO A+

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Date: 2009-05-17 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyujong.livejournal.com
I don't....I don't understand this list. None of those things are underrated...

Oh wait, I missed the Big Mama part and all that. I thought that whole thing was one giant DBSK dedicated thing LMAO. I'll agree to that then. The strong lady singers need more love.
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Date: 2009-05-17 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proleptical.livejournal.com
Also... don't kill me but word about Boys Over Flowers.

Well, actually, I've never seen the Korean version but the original story, which for I've heard is followed very closely by the Korean drama, is just horrible. Not only is it cliche as hell but it's like the Asian version of Twilight in that it idealizes the hot "bad boy" who is pretty much a creepy douche. I mean, didn't he try to rape her at the beginning of the series? And she ends up falling in love with him? Ugh, yeah. Just thinking of all the girls that want a boy like that after watching the drama makes me nauseous.




Date: 2009-05-17 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] originaru.livejournal.com
lol.

Way back the in day I watched Meteor Garden. After that I've never been able to get into anything related to Boys over Flowers. I didn't watch the Japanese one or the Korean one even though I wanted to because both had actors I liked. I just hated the entire plot. :/

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Date: 2009-05-17 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psychul.livejournal.com
The 5 most overrated and underrated in K-Entertainment

05 what? potatoes? idiots? i see 14 and all the other female singers in korea potatoes on this list.

Date: 2009-05-17 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
WTF overrated DBSK is doing on underrated list.

Date: 2009-05-17 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ari-meh.livejournal.com
even I think the shankis are overrated... but what's up with putting them and suju there and not big bang? what about the rest of the wonder girls and even snsd? i'm a great fan of them, yes, but they are just as much overrated =/
ahjoong just gets on my nerves D:

i absolutely agree with BBF. it was addictive, yeah. but overall it's not even as good as the japanese version.. plus, they should've put more effort into the script.. when you watch 2 episode per week, you may not notice as well.. but watching it as a whole, it always falls on either hurried plot or draggy plot u___u

mmmn~~ i agree with the choices for underrated (besides BEG... i just don't think they are that talented... even the two other Seeya girls are better than them, as a group), though i'd add so much more =/

just to mention some Clazziquai (need I explain?); Jisun (from Loveholic. she had such a great solo album); 검정치마 are an absolutely incredible band; Dear Cloud; My Aunt Mary; Park KiYoung; Hot Potato; Rocket Diary (etcetc)

Date: 2009-05-17 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kawaiiairbender.livejournal.com
So Hee is overrated. D:

I think Gummy is underrated too. I <3 her. Even my dad who isn't into music in other languages (well besides spanish) loves her.

I do not like Super Junior for their music to be honest... though I guess it's a plus XD;;

Date: 2009-05-17 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinyknots.livejournal.com
Ia so hard, her voice is amazing

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Date: 2009-05-17 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pickychu.livejournal.com
ia w/ this list mostly, but they're still really addictive so wutevs~

except for bof. that can fade away now.

Date: 2009-05-17 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loverboy.livejournal.com
They talked about underrated k-entertainment and didn't mention any indie artists at all? wtfffff.

Date: 2009-05-17 01:25 am (UTC)

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Date: 2009-05-17 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamgazed.livejournal.com
I think ALL of those girl groups that uses their cute act for the source of their popularity instead of displaying some for real talent should be in that overrated list.

my point:


Stuff like this makes my thoroughly mad with this type of fandom. TaeGoon was by far more talented here, but yet he lost for whatever reason, most likely for the fact that Kara is more popular even though their performance wasn't all that great comparatively. And most likely netizens would be mad if an industry n00b beat a senior artist/group.

But I realized, whether we like it or not, most artists nowadays aren't judged by talent, its by how much fanservice they can pump out, how cute and/or sexy they are, and how much they can entertain.


and as for DBSK being on bother lists... WUT?

Date: 2009-05-17 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ari-meh.livejournal.com
that competition made me snap.
even if i don't like taegoon as a singer, he was just SO much better.
so much better it hurts.
shindong's face explains it better than i can..

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