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Girls' Generation perform at their first showcase in Japan on Aug. 25

Korean girl groups are attracting more fervent admirers among their own sex in Japan than from the young men they are ostensibly manufactured to appeal to. About 80 percent of the audience at the debut showcase of Girls' Generation at the Ariake Coliseum in Tokyo on Aug. 25 were female, from teenagers to women in their 30s. Plenty of them even sported Girls' Generation outfits.

Things are much the same with other Korean girl groups like 4 Minute, Kara and Brown Eyed Girls. Management agencies admit that even though the bands were meant to target male fans, more than half of the fans are young girls. In Korea, girl bands have traditionally been popular among men of all ages, from teens to those in their 50s.

Differences in Image
AKB 48 and Morning Musume are the leading Japanese girl bands this year. Dressed in frilly princess dresses and much given to winsome smiles, they dance and sing to routines mainly choreographed with dainty movements of hands and feet. But Korean girl groups have a bolder, more dynamic image. They wear angular uniforms or tight skinny jeans, and dance to choreography that uses the whole body. On stage, they appear confident and charismatic.

Kim Young-min of agency SM Entertainment said, "Japanese girls who've had enough of Japanese girl bands that strictly appeal to men's protective instincts seem to take bolder Korean girl groups as a role model."


Japanese girl group AKB48

Better Skills
Thanks to their notoriously grueling training, Korean girl groups tend to be better at dancing and singing than Japanese ones. Members of Korean girl bands go through an average of three to six years of training, while Japanese girls get just six months to a year. Japanese management agencies recently shifted from quality to quantity, on the assumption that anyone can become an "idol" with the right marketing support. AKB 48, as the name suggests, has 48 members who perform a daily gig for fans in a small theatre in Tokyo's Akihabara. Often members are launched straight off the street and then learn on the job due to these schedules.

Filling a Boy-Band Shaped Hole
Oricon, the Japanese equivalent to charts provider Billboard, recently said Japanese girls in their teens and 20s are taking to Korean girl bands during a lull for Korean boy bands. Bands such as TVXQ, Big Bang and Shinee turned Japanese girls on to K-pop, with the number of Japanese TVXQ fans estimated at over 300,000. That prompted Japanese management agencies to concentrate on the boy band market, according to Shin Sung-hee of Sony Music Entertainment. "They had no interest in girl groups whatsoever, so the current Korean girl band phenomenon took people in both Korea and Japan by surprise," he said.


Japanese fans in similar attire as the Girls' Generation pose for a photo

Source: The Chosun Ilbo
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Date: 2010-09-18 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stopthedisco.livejournal.com
w/e i like both korean and japanese girl groups

and jfc akb48 + morning musume =/= all japanese girl groups
i hate how this is implying that those j-girl groups are talentless, which they certainly are not
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Date: 2010-09-18 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexona-woman.livejournal.com
I agree with everything you said.

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiku-cha8-8.livejournal.com
Perfume is still pwn :9

But compared to AKB48 and Morning Musume, I guess it is because of trendy fashion and the dash of sexy *shrugs*

Date: 2010-09-18 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inati.livejournal.com
needs a 'Why American Girls Go Mad for Korean Boy Bands' article.

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finchburg.livejournal.com
Can't resist the kimchi charms.

Date: 2010-09-18 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spread.livejournal.com
I heard that there is over 300 to be exact.

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neumi.livejournal.com
Duh, women like attainable goals! Same reason I like em.

I find it ironic that Japanese fans like Kgirl groups because they don't appeal to men's protective instincts... except they do lol

Date: 2010-09-18 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunshineyellow.livejournal.com
Yeah, but less in the borderline pedophile way a lot of Japanese media does.

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:13 am (UTC)
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PLEASE POST THIS IN ARAMA SO I CAN WATCH THE BUTTHURTFEST. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. I'll even abke you fresh blueberry muffins. <3

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obeytheempress.livejournal.com
it's odd for me, being conditioned by american pop stars to think of k-pop idols as being "bold". but i'm not too familiar with j-pop so i never thought of it that way. j-pop fans, is k-pop overall really that much more ~dynamic~?

Date: 2010-09-18 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saicamui.livejournal.com
as for my opinion, i think the overall image of japanese girl bands are quite same, which is cute,girly,princess-like... so when korean girlband like 4minute,snsd,and on debut in japan, with obviously different image, it appeal to japanese peeps~

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saicamui.livejournal.com
"Japanese girls who've had enough of Japanese girl bands" => this is my exact thought when i watched the news on kbsw yesterday XDDDDD
i think japanese are really appealed by korean voices~ since japanese girlband n boybands mainly sound soo nasally~

Date: 2010-09-18 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danceinthedark.livejournal.com
That nasalliness is inherent in their traditional singing style and in their speech, so no, they're not bothered by it in the slightest.

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whatt..

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xwritteninmonox.livejournal.com
They have a point. Korean groups try hard for that sexy look. I don't really like j-pop cause it's mostly upbeat cute music. I'm still down for j-rock though.

Date: 2010-09-18 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saicamui.livejournal.com
THIS! jrock is <3
and japan is better environment for music than korea~ you could see wide variety of successful musicians not only boybands/girlbands like korea

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danceinthedark.livejournal.com
That prompted Japanese management agencies to concentrate on the boy band market, according to Shin Sung-hee of Sony Music Entertainment. "They had no interest in girl groups whatsoever, so the current Korean girl band phenomenon took people in both Korea and Japan by surprise,"

Yeah, girl groups have been springing up left, right and center ever since AKB got popular in Japan so this isn't really true.

Theyre trying to type Japanese girl groups as one thing when they've got a much bigger variety than that; Speed is one example that comes to mind stylistically for a popular group, and back in the day MM was hugely popular with every possible gender and age range, and AKB has been shown to have a huge female fanbase. Perfume seems to be split right down the middle (and are more perfect in concept and execution than anything Korea has come up with, I might just add.)

Date: 2010-09-18 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jooannee.livejournal.com
aahhh ive gotten out of jpop for too long! have never seen or heard anything of perfumes before. are they really good? i'll go check them out thanks!

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spandachi.livejournal.com
OT but "OMONA THEY DIDN'T! Endless charms, endless possibilities"

Is that new or just temporary?

Date: 2010-09-18 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spread.livejournal.com
The brilliant, magnificent, glorious [livejournal.com profile] shanny_w came up with that gem.
You like, no? ^^

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leafylee.livejournal.com
LMAO WAYLT.

Either those girls are tiny Kyu took some temporary growth supplements.
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KYU LIKES....

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:18 am (UTC)
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That girl in the last picture to the left looks fake.

Date: 2010-09-18 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanda-snape.livejournal.com
Her face looks too unfortunate to be real.

i ain't complaining

Date: 2010-09-18 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandapples33.livejournal.com
but everything that deals with koreans & jpop = tohos

i bet they're all just one big toho fangirl or something lmao

Date: 2010-09-18 02:19 am (UTC)
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Oooooh. My japanese professor loves Super Junior.
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Date: 2010-09-18 02:20 am (UTC)
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aww that soshi-cosplay picture is cute hahah. some girls look like idols themselves. ^^

Date: 2010-09-18 02:22 am (UTC)
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Image (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/90806089.png/)

Date: 2010-09-18 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexona-woman.livejournal.com
DON'T GO CHASING WATERFALLS~~

LISA LEFT EYE LOPES ;______;

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baboboy.livejournal.com
urgh I always hated the outfits of the oh! mv they look cheap and simply horrible ): glad they went more for the cheerleader concept for the performances


yeah ok korea is the best blah blah blah

Date: 2010-09-18 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dokidays.livejournal.com
"Japanese girls who've had enough of Japanese girl bands that strictly appeal to men's protective instincts seem to take bolder Korean girl groups as a role model."
and the whole of the Better Skills part.

there's gonna be wank in arama

Date: 2010-09-18 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedevil0289.livejournal.com
I'm not familiar with jpop or the japanese music scene in general, though I've listened a to a few Gazette songs, but based on comments here and from other sites, I get the impression that kpop is a bit more diverse than jpop, but overall there is alot more diversity within the japanese music scene, such as rock, visual kei, jpop, etc and some of these groups get more exposure than many of the indie bands or rock bands in korea.

Date: 2010-09-18 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chewmi.livejournal.com
gazette <3!

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chewmi.livejournal.com
i definitely prefer kpop to jpop
but jrock overall :D

Would just like to say...

Date: 2010-09-18 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rencode.livejournal.com
The Korean music industry is definitely 100% NOT more diverse than the Japanese music industry. Quote me on that.

I keep seeing the opposite floating around and I just wanted to debunk that.

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stopthedisco.livejournal.com
lol really? All I hear is how Jpop is more diverse.

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abner-rainbow.livejournal.com
lol

girl groups have been dead in japan since like 2003, it's only now they are starting to somewhat make a comeback. japanese girls don't need these groups when there are already people like namie, miliyah, kuu and kana around. w/e another koraen article writing bullshit like this what else is new

Date: 2010-09-18 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saicamui.livejournal.com
namie amuro and kato miliyah are <3
ahaha true! women japanese soloist are already enough!

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Date: 2010-09-18 02:43 am (UTC)
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http://i55.tinypic.com/2i12hxf.jpg
The girl on the left is making me lol and I feel bad about it.
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