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North Korea reportedly sold missiles to international terrorist group al-Qaida and engaged in arms trade with Pakistan that allegedly supported insurgents in Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, South Korea has participated in the United States-led war on terrorism in Afghanistan to deny al-Qaida sanctuaries overseas by dispatching troops and a non-military workforce to help post-war reconstruction there since 2002, despite multiple warnings from the Taliban.


South and North Korea, acting on seemingly opposite sides of the global war on terror, have sparked speculation over whether their security standoff at home has extended abroad.

Paik Seung-joo, a senior research fellow at the state-run Korea Institute for Defense Analyses, observed the two Koreas’ motives are different and therefore it is hard to say definitively whether they are engaged in an overseas confrontation involving the war on terror.

“Cash-strapped North Korea sold missiles to earn cash, whereas South Korea sent military and non-military personnel to Afghanistan because it was critical to maintain the ROK-U.S. alliance,” the security expert told The Korea Times.

Paik made the remarks after the website WikiLeaks released more than 91,000 classified Afghan war documents the White House called “alarming.”

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was quoted as saying that the disclosures were just the beginning, adding that some 15,000 more files on the Afghan war were still being vetted by the website.

Among the 91,000 secret documents are the arms deal between North Korea and al-Qaida, which is the first time that the nexus of an arms deal between the North and the terrorist group was reported.

According to the report, Osama bin Laden’s financial advisor Dr. Amin (whose last name was lost), along with Hezb-e-Islami party leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, flew to North Korea from Iran on Nov. 19, 2005.

“While in North Korea, the two confirmed a deal with the North Korean government for remote controlled rockets for use against American and coalition aircraft,” it said.

The documents also alleged that Pakistan played a double game when it came to the U.S. war in Afghanistan as its security officials secretly provided Afghan insurgents with aid.

Earlier, U.S. intelligence officials claimed that Pakistan was a key supplier of uranium enrichment technology to North Korea, which both North Korea and Pakistan denied.

The U.S. Congressional Research Service report, entitled “Weapons of Mass Destruction: Trade between North Korea and Pakistan,” stated that the two sides have been engaged in conventional arms trade for over 30 years.

“Pakistan could offer North Korea a route to nuclear weapons using highly enriched uranium (HEU) that could circumvent the plutonium-focused 1994 Agreed Framework and be difficult to detect,” the report said.

North Korea began exporting ballistic missiles and technology in the 1980s, and Pakistan began producing HEU at the Khan Research Laboratory during the same period.

Lately, North Korea’s arms trade with Pakistan is getting fresh attention, as the latter was disclosed to have helped Afghan insurgents.

In addition, the North’s alleged secret arms deal with al-Qaida came at a time when South Korea joined the U.S.-led war on terrorism in Afghanistan from 2002.

In October, 2001, the U.S. government waged a war on terrorism to deny al-Qaida sanctuaries overseas after Osama bin Laden masterminded the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center in New York.

The Afghan war is the centerpiece of the U.S. war on terrorism.

South Korea has sent troops and a medical and engineering workforce to help the war-torn nation rise from the ashes, build a sustainable democracy, and set up governance.

The two events ― North Korea’s arms deal with al-Qaida and Pakistan on the one side and South Korea having joined the U.S.-led war on terrorism in Afghanistan on the other side ― have caused experts to speculate about whether the two Koreas are using the war on terror as a venue for their own fratricidal tensions.

Security expert Paik disagreed, saying North Korea would probably have considered the arms sales with al-Qaida a source of cash, not thinking they were engaging in the war on terrorism.

Source: koreatimes

Date: 2010-07-28 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] looshylu.livejournal.com
I don't know why but everytime I read these stories about NK, I just get these images of kids in a playground being like "I'll trade you my Dark Magician for the Golden Dragon" or like NK is the bullied emo kid who will one day just snap at the jock (USA) who systematically blames and accuses him of everything.

I'm not saying we should give NK free reign, but I do think USA should back the fuck down because the NK government obviously feel the pressure of America's "I know what you did last summer" glares. I get the feeling that NK will just snap and it will all go to hell......=[ =[ =[

/ends essay rant

Date: 2010-07-28 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booksandsarcasm.livejournal.com
idk... maybe if the Jock was judging the emo kid because he sees him treating his siblings like crap (abuse) and trying to take charge on the playground in a really aggressive way while spreading rumors about everyone else being mean to him... xD Actually I'm not sure this is the best analogy since the situation is so... idk... I do think the U.S. really needs to be careful because NKorea seems so unbalanced but at some point I think if you keep tip toeing around them, it might lead them to attempt to take bigger and bigger steps over the line.

Date: 2010-07-28 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] looshylu.livejournal.com
IA

Btw thanks for exapnding upon what I meant, I have waaaay too many thoughts about the entire situation to get them out in a comprehensible manner XD

Date: 2010-07-28 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] classystar.livejournal.com
It's no wonder why most Koreans prefer this days to learn english and go abroad.. either to study, do business, or practically make a new life out there.. I'm scared actually of what North Korea is capable of doing.. and I don't like how S. Korea and USA are inattentive to this because it will likely piss N. Korea more.. I don't know if it just me but I have this conspiracy theory that N. Korea and Bin Laden are forming an alliance here.. >.>

2012 better not be WWW III DD:

Date: 2010-07-28 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefinalpansy.livejournal.com
after the website WikiLeaks released more than 91,000 classified Afghan war documents the White House called “alarming.”

Of course it was the Internet that told us what was going on.

It's such a shame to see that this war still rages on, and that two countries, that are practically at war already, are only worsened by the situation on top of that because they have to take sides or whatever. I'm a total utopianist when it comes to war, I just wish it was all over, but of course that can't happen.
It's clear N.Korea will obviously sell to the opposition, but like the security guy said it's all about money in the end. N.Korea is pretty bad when it comes to financial issues right?

Date: 2010-07-28 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anesthetics4ana.livejournal.com
still even if NK sold the bombs only for the money without even recognizing that US is in a war with these guys...
gosh that shows how unfit they are to do anything political.
I mean at least SK didn't do anything stupid, at least they are trying to help.
The money NK got is probably gone anyway,
probably made more defective nuclear bombs to make up for the ones they lost.
North Korea doesn't THINK, seriously.

Date: 2010-07-28 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] t-icklesthesun.livejournal.com
nk + terrorism = nightmare

its like a villain coalition trying to take over the world with violence.
im so tired of this. i remember being 7 and watching a movie, and asking my dad whether wars still exist. i couldn't understand why people fought and it terrified me. it still feels like tt sometimes.



Date: 2010-07-28 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itangeisha.livejournal.com
nk with al qaida and pakistan? wow.. idek. :///

Date: 2010-07-28 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yvonne-b.livejournal.com
ww3? DNW

Date: 2010-07-28 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archaenon.livejournal.com
NK Has been unstable since the Korean war. I figured that had been arms dealing since the start of the war on terror due to the defensive stance they took from day one.
I'm not a supporter of war but no one else aside from the US is taking an active stance with any terror related subjects. Ive always wondered if the US ignored all pleas for action how many countries would actually step up and take thier place to stop terrorism.
Just saying.... Sure as heck wouldn't be NATO, that's an organized joke.

I suggest you guys read more then just this one report to get a broader view oon events.

Date: 2010-07-29 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] locofruitcake.livejournal.com
The Iraq War came out to be inconclusive though, both in the nuclear and terror aspect. You're right, not many people would do what the US did/does, but they've had bad calls of judgement before and this really isn't the time to be aggressive or wield their power so carelessly. Also, this sudden article about NK selling arms surfacing at this time (after they claim that it's been ongoing) is making me raise my eyebrows and wonder if it'll always be this way - the person who complains first will always get majority support :/

Though, this is not to say that either is definitely wrong or right. Takes two to clap after all
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Date: 2010-07-29 04:17 am (UTC)
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Date: 2010-07-29 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gdtle1.livejournal.com
Wow that's totally ironic. I spent a good hour telling my 9 year old brother about North Korea and the Korean war only a few hours ago.

But seriously...I'm worried for SK because even though they most likely won't bomb them or the neighbouring countries cause the whole world would turn against them, you just have to be wary... They know a lot more about SK than SK does about them and incase a dispute gets triggered...SK's pretty fucked :|

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