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Surgery without anaesthetics, unsterilised needles and epidemics worsened by malnutrition illustrate the desperate state of North Korea's health care system, Amnesty International have said.


Food shortages have persisted since the 1990s famine and some North Koreans survive partly on grass, tree roots and bark, the international rights group said in a report.

The communist state says health care is free for all, but Amnesty said many witnesses told it they have had to pay for all services since the 1990s.

Doctors were usually paid in cigarettes, alcohol or food for consultations and took cash for tests or surgery.

"If you don't have money, you die," the report quoted a 20-year-old woman refugee as saying.

The report, citing World Health Organization (WHO) figures, said the North spent less on health care than any other country -- under one dollar per person per year in total.

It urged the North to take effective steps to tackle food shortages, including accepting international assistance and ensuring the transparent delivery of food aid.

Amnesty called on the international community to support the UN's "grossly underfunded" World Food Programme and other aid groups, and to ensure provision of aid is based on need and not political considerations.

"It is crucial that aid to North Korea is not used as a political football by donor countries," said Catherine Baber, Amnesty's deputy Asia-Pacific director, in a statement.

The report paints a Dickensian portrait of barely functioning hospitals bereft of anaesthetics and medicines, with unsterilised needles and bloodstained sheets.

Amnesty said its report was based on interviews with more than 40 North Koreans now living overseas and with health professionals working in the secretive country.

It quoted a 56-year-old woman from the northeastern city of Musan who underwent surgery to remove her appendix in 2001 without anaesthesia.

"I was screaming so much from the pain, I thought I was going to die. They had tied my hands and legs to prevent me from moving," she said.

Baber said the North failed to provide for the most basic health and survival needs of its people, especially those too poor to pay for medical care.

Amnesty reported that many people bypass doctors altogether and go to the markets to buy medicine, which they administer through guesswork or the advice of stallholders.

"The government's failure to provide basic education about using medication is especially worrying as North Korea fights a tuberculosis epidemic," Baber said.

Quoting WHO figures, the report estimated that five percent of the 24 million people are infected with tuberculosis and a growing number have developed resistance to first-line drugs.

Amnesty cited constant food shortages, worsened by policies such as a botched currency revaluation last November. A 2008 UN survey showed nine million people lacked enough food.

But Amnesty said the government had been reluctant to seek international assistance. In March 2009, as relations became more strained, the North refused to accept any further US food aid.

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Date: 2010-07-16 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bea-chan22.livejournal.com
Surgery without anaesthetics, unsterilised needles and epidemics worsened by malnutrition illustrate the desperate state of North Korea's health care system, Amnesty International have said.

Oh goodness, can someone shoot Kim Jong-Il and his group already?

Date: 2010-07-16 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nishiio.livejournal.com
I don't want to kill people but...
I agree with you on this one. =__=;;;

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Date: 2010-07-16 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] citzera.livejournal.com
I feel bad flailing about the SHINee cover when I read this TT____TT

IDEK....

Date: 2010-07-16 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fay-of-sunshine.livejournal.com
/same here ;_;

Date: 2010-07-16 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyankee.livejournal.com
"It is crucial that aid to North Korea is not used as a political football by donor countries [...]"

Crucial, yes, but don't count on it. :| unfortunately, these days that's all "humanitarianism" is worth to most world leaders, in the long run. Everything is a "political football". This is going to be no exception, terrible as it is.

Date: 2010-07-16 12:34 am (UTC)

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Date: 2010-07-16 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] galleticas.livejournal.com
" 56-year-old woman from the northeastern city of Musan who underwent surgery to remove her appendix in 2001 without anaesthesia."

D:

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Date: 2010-07-16 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mearii87.livejournal.com
This is so sad. :(

Date: 2010-07-16 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miyavi-type.livejournal.com
What's the point of not dying from good healthcare if you are only going to live miserably? In this situation knowin what I know, I'd be pretty happy to get sick and die.

Date: 2010-07-16 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queefing.livejournal.com
dont underestimate our biological will to survive. pretty much written in our dna :|

Date: 2010-07-16 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umbrella-smile.livejournal.com
Oh god that whole article mad me cringe.

Date: 2010-07-16 12:42 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-07-16 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yvonne-b.livejournal.com
"I was screaming so much from the pain, I thought I was going to die. They had tied my hands and legs to prevent me from moving," she said.

omg wut

this is like some crazy middle ages shit

Date: 2010-07-16 01:02 am (UTC)

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Date: 2010-07-16 01:02 am (UTC)

Without anesthetics?

Date: 2010-07-16 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilipute.livejournal.com
You mean like when they used to saw off the soldiers limbs off without giving them anything for the pain, back in the olden days?

Image (http://es.tinypic.com?ref=nqz6tj)

These things make you wish and hope that there really is a hell, so that that guy can go and burn in it. I'm just sayin.

Date: 2010-07-16 01:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-07-16 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-lazy-one.livejournal.com
"But Amnesty said the government had been reluctant to seek international assistance. In March 2009, as relations became more strained, the North refused to accept any further US food aid."

They wouldn't accept it even if the people in the country are suffering from malnutrition already? That's messed up. =/

Date: 2010-07-16 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklop.livejournal.com
The West always act like it's on top of the world and yet we've allowed such a hell to exist on earth for 60+ years...


Good god I hate the fact that China still supports this place if only because they are "communist" and I hate that the world wont do shit cause no one dares to mess with China...

Stupid international politics aka the UN is useless

Date: 2010-07-16 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nishiio.livejournal.com
Well...ever since humans existed, there hasn't really been peace. XD

The China situation is a very sticky one though. I would love it if China just stood up one day and said, "FUCK YOU NORTH KOREA" but it can't. It's too complicated right now. China sided with NK in the first place because the US had good ties with SK. China needed to kinda...counterbalance that. NK relies on China for MANY things as well; China makes up most of NK's already limited trade.
China's pressured already because it knows that the "right" thing to do is to stand against NK but seriously...there's just too much going on right now for it to suddenly cut off all ties with that country.

Date: 2010-07-16 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yumekanau.livejournal.com
"If you don't have money, you die," the report quoted a 20-year-old woman refugee as saying.

=/
Sounds though like even if you DO have money, you're at risk of dying.

Date: 2010-07-16 07:30 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-07-16 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superjuniorxx.livejournal.com
aww :( everyone's always like "MEH! NK! GET IT A-WAY!" but i feel sorry for those poor people over there that can't do anything...stupid dictator!!

Date: 2010-07-16 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peachywink.livejournal.com
A Tuburculosis epidemic? That's an airborn bacteria. i tested positive for it when I was 12 and coming back to the US. I did the treatment and am perfectly fine but it is an awful way to die.

Date: 2010-07-16 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tadaki.livejournal.com
Surgery without anaesthetics, unsterilised needles and epidemics worsened by malnutrition

five percent of the 24 million people are infected with tuberculosis and a growing number have developed resistance to first-line drugs.

constant food shortages


wtf, NK is going to kill all their citizens from neglect by the time KJI's son comes into power.

Date: 2010-07-16 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dakara-suki.livejournal.com
24 million people have tb?!?!?!?!?!?!?!/!/1/1?1/1!?!?!?!?!? WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Date: 2010-07-16 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 0ddie13.livejournal.com
"surgery without anaesthetics" n unsterilised needles and bloodstained sheets.
how barberic, if the disease did not kill u, the surgery might, or the infection most likely will =(

Date: 2010-07-16 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] howla.livejournal.com
Some Bieber magic outta fix this up /bricked

But seriously, this is horrifying to read. The part about "Surgery without anaesthetics" is what scares me the most. D:

Date: 2010-07-16 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cher-ex3.livejournal.com
Not to sound like a broken record, but the movie Crossing is an incredible movie that relates to conditions like this one in the North.

Date: 2010-07-16 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maisoui.livejournal.com
Post full of :((((((

I can't even.

Date: 2010-07-16 06:24 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-07-16 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paper-berries.livejournal.com
i can't believe there are 24 million in NK. i can't believe there are 24 million living people in NK.
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