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South Korean Internet-savvy citizens, such as bloggers, Twitter users and online media reporters, who are invited by the Defense Ministry, visit the wreckage of a warship that the government claims was sunk by a North Korean torpedo in March, at the Second Fleet Command of Navy in Pyeongtaek, south of Seoul.
A new study by U.S. researchers raises questions about the investigation into the sinking of a South Korean navy ship. International investigators blamed a North Korean torpedo, raising tensions on the Korean peninsula.
Researchers J.J. Suh and Seung-Hun Lee say the South Korean Joint Investigation Group made a weak case when it concluded that North Korea was responsible for sinking the Cheonan.
Speaking in Tokyo Friday, the two said the investigation was riddled with inconsistencies and cast "profound doubt" on the integrity of the investigation. "The only conclusion one can draw on the basis of the evidence is that there was no outside explosion," Suh said. "The JIG completely failed to produce evidence that backs up its claims that there was an outside explosion."
Suh is an associate professor in international relations at Johns Hopkins University in the United States, where he runs the Korean studies program.
International investigators said in May that an external explosion caused the South Korean ship to sink last March, killing 46 sailors. The report said a North Korean-made torpedo caused the explosion.
Suh and Lee the cracked portion of the bottom of the ship does not show the signs of a large shock that are usually associated with outside explosions. They add that all the ship's internal parts remained intact and few fragments were recovered outside the ship.
"Almost all parts and fragments should've been recovered within about three to six meters within where the torpedo part was discovered," Lee says, "The fact that only the propeller and the propulsion part was discovered doesn't make any sense to me."
Lee is a professor of physics at the University of Virginia in the United States. Lee also points to a blue mark on a fragment of the torpedo to question the validity of the study. South Korean scientists say that part of the torpedo was marked "number one" in Korean, with a blue marker.
Suh and Lee say the writing would not have survived the intense heat of an explosion. "This can not be taken as evidence. Because any Korean, North and South, can write this mark," Suh said. "Also, it does not make sense that this blue ink mark could survive so freshly when the paint all around was all burned at the explosion."
Both researchers say their findings do not prove that North Korea did not sink the Cheonan. But they say it is irresponsible for the South Korean government to reach its conclusions based on an inconclusive study.
They are calling for a new international investigation to re-examine the Cheonan's sinking. They also want the United Nations Security Council to pressure the South Korean government and request an "objective and scientific" report before the council deliberates on the incident.
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Date: 2010-07-09 01:15 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-07-09 01:30 pm (UTC).__.
Date: 2010-07-09 01:46 pm (UTC)/sucker
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Date: 2010-07-09 01:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-09 01:41 pm (UTC)Er, does that make sense.
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Date: 2010-07-09 01:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-09 02:31 pm (UTC)My grandma used to try and scare me all the time with crap like this...
I'm sure it's not 100% unfounded but so rare that people shouldn't let it interfere with their lives. o__O
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Date: 2010-07-09 01:36 pm (UTC)of all the findings, never in a million years would i have expected THIS to be one of them. O__O i mean, if this turns out to be true that this whole NK sinking a SK ship turns out to be FALSE due to some inconclusive data---with the threat of war so heavy in the air...
HOW could they let this HAPPEN???!!!
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Date: 2010-07-09 01:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-09 02:02 pm (UTC)now what.
Not cool at all man.!
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Date: 2010-07-09 03:04 pm (UTC)...ugh, NKorea is going to have a field day with this to promote the whole idea that the world is just ~*a bully*~
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Date: 2010-07-09 03:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-09 03:27 pm (UTC)“It is impossible to create a lie and call it the truth when so many experts are part of the investigative team, let alone that the South Korean government has really no reason to distort the truth,” he said.
Which came from Baek Seung-joo, director of the Center for Security and Strategy. Who also said he he is certain North Korea is responsible for the attack, although it was possible the investigation team made some mistakes during the investigation process but not in its conclusion.
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Baek said he believes that more than half of South Koreans don’t believe a North Korean torpedo was responsible for the sinking, and one-third don’t believe the investigation team’s findings.
He blames their skepticism on the timing of the investigation team’s initial report, which was released about two weeks before national elections
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Date: 2010-07-09 03:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-09 05:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-09 03:59 pm (UTC)No sarcasm here either.
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Date: 2010-07-09 07:54 pm (UTC)"On May 8, 2010, a former senior presidential secretary who served under Roh Moo-hyun, Park Seon-won[77], was charged with libel by South Korea's Defense Minister, Kim Tae-young, over comments he made during an April 22 interview on MBC radio asking for greater disclosure from the military and government. Park Seon-won's response to the charge was: "I asked for the disclosure of information for a transparent and impartial investigation into the cause of the Cheonan sinking;" he added that "the libel suit seeks to silence public suspicion over the incident."
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"South Korea's Minister of Public Administration and Security, Maeng Hyung-kyu, announced on 20 May that the government was stepping up efforts to prosecute people who spread "groundless rumors" over the internet: "Anyone who makes false reports or articles about the incident could seriously damage national security. We will not let these be the basis of any risks the nation faces." Moreover, he announced the government would step up efforts to prevent "illegal gatherings" regarding the sinking of the Cheonan."
okay I'm an outsider from a different country but WTH is this?
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Date: 2010-07-09 06:16 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-07-09 05:37 pm (UTC)North Korea, South Korea, the United States, and Korean Americans
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Date: 2010-07-09 06:51 pm (UTC)more than half of South Koreans don’t believe a North Korean torpedo was responsible for the sinking, and one-third don’t believe the investigation team’s findings.
the timing of the investigation team’s initial report, which was released about two weeks before national elections
So basicly South Korean's thought they made it for the elections.
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Date: 2010-07-09 07:41 pm (UTC)I certainly wouldn't put it past any country...including the United States.
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Date: 2010-07-09 07:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-09 08:07 pm (UTC)North Korea most likely did do it but evidence can get lost at sea easily. I think South Korea knew they don't have enough good evidence that north korea did it but, they needed the international communities support in cracking down on the North. So even if the evidence is incunclusive they used it to make a case against the North.
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Date: 2010-07-09 07:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-07-09 08:12 pm (UTC)http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/09/un.korean.ship/index.html?iref=allsearch
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Date: 2010-07-09 08:38 pm (UTC)The US has been the strongest supporter of South Korea, while China has refused to blame North Korea. Russia has not said where it stands. Britain and France usually side with the US on security matters.
And it's not helping that both China and Russia are not supporting South Korea.