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Soldiers and police cordoned off a bridge near northeastern China’s Dandong city last month as a special train rolled across the Yalu river carrying North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il.

The high security surrounding Kim’s secret crossing from North Korea into China might have given the impression this stretch of water dividing the two Communist-ruled police states marked one of the world’s most secure borders.


Most make the risky crossing from the North Korean side, with no plans to return.

“I defected to China in March 2007 for a new opportunity outside North Korea but I was victimised by human traffickers and sold to an entertainment club and restaurant where I worked as a virtual slave for two years,” said Pang Yon-ju, a 26-year-old woman now living in Seoul. “I was terrified by the possibility of arrest at any time by the Chinese police.”

Pang joined a group of nine North Koreans who took refuge in the Danish embassy in Hanoi in September after they were helped along the ‘underground railway’ through China to Vietnam by the Seoul-based Helping Hands Korea.

Another woman in Pang’s group, Kim Sun-hi, escaped after traffickers sold her to a Chinese farmer. Kim said she could not remember a “single day of peace” during five years as an illegal migrant in China. She told Helping Hands she first entered China in March 2004 “for food”.

“But I was victimised by human traffickers in China at this point and became the wife of a poor Chinese farmer,” Kim said. “Luckily, I did not have any children with the Chinese farmer and managed to break away from him to work at a restaurant.”

Thousands of other North Korean women are not so lucky. Between

30,000 and 300,000 North Korean migrants remain in limbo in China, according to different estimates, most of them women.

“Some remain in hiding for a lifetime while others seek brokers or activists who will guide them along their journey out,” said LiNK Global, a US-based group helping the refugees inside China.

“From China, refugees must traverse the underground railroad to find one of the many routes to freedom, either through Mongolia or south through south-east Asia,” LiNK said.

As the United Nations High Commission for Refugees marks World Refugee Day today, it lists no North Korean refugees in China, though it designates them as ‘persons of concern’.

The UNHCR has requested access to the North Koreans many times since they began flooding across the border nearly 20 years ago during a famine that was estimated to have killed more than one million people in their homeland. North Korea now has a population of about 23 million.

China continues to label the North Koreans ‘economic migrants’, refusing to grant them refugee status and repatriating those caught by the police.

Kitty McKinsey, an East Asian regional spokesperson for UNHCR, said her organisation was “quite disturbed” by reports of trafficking, sexual exploitation and other abuses of North Koreans in China. It also believes China should not send back North Korean migrants, she said.

As with other human rights issues, China and North Korea say very little. Both nations would prefer to see the problem of North Korean migrants swept under the carpet.

The Chinese government “absolutely bottles up” the UNHCR, said Tim Peters, the American missionary who founded Helping Hands 13 years ago.

Peters sees no significant easing of China’s stance in recent years, saying the government continues “very adamantly” with the policy of sending migrants back to North Korea, including some women who have lived in China for more than 10 years.

“Even if they have children, that does not deter the decision to send these women back,” Peters said, adding many children of repatriated North Korean women remain in China as orphans or face an uncertain future with their Chinese families.

Chinese authorities sometimes allow the Chinese fathers to register the children but first demand proof that the mothers have returned to North Korea. “This is a particularly egregious violation of every kind of human right,” Peters said.

North Korean women are reportedly sold into forced marriages in China for anywhere between £400 and £1300. Unmarried Chinese men and their families buy the women as surrogate wives who are expected to produce children.

“North Korean women are highly vulnerable to sexual slavery and other exploitation in China, but many prefer selling their body to repatriation to their famine-stricken country,” said Chun Ki Won, the head of the Seoul-based Durihana Mission.

A report in March by the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Situation of Human Rights in North Korea gave an indication of why some North Korean women accept forced marriage and other forms of exploitation and abuse in China.

Vitit Muntarbhorn said he believed “harrowing and horrific human rights violations” were continuing in the nation, which he has never been allowed to visit. The “non-democratic nature of the power base” in North Korea had created a “State of Fear” in which the army took priority over the people, Muntarbhorn told the UN Human Rights Council.

The New York-based International Rescue Committee, which lobbies for “refugees fleeing repressive regimes”, says China’s forcible repatriation of North Koreans is “in violation of its international obligations”.

Women and men who are sent back to North Korea face torture, stretches in labour camps and execution.

Lee Tae-gon, 23, also reached Seoul via Vietnam in September. Lee first defected as an orphaned teenager in 1999 but was sent back to North Korea four times over the next six years, before working as a waiter in China from 2006 to 2009.

“After each return, I was beaten and kicked severely during the interrogations by the State Security agents of North Korea,” Lee told Helping Hands.

In February 2008, North Korea publicly executed 15 people who were accused of entering China or attempting to cross the border illegally, according to an unconfirmed report by Good Friends, another South Korean aid group.

“What we’re experiencing is that the North Korean government is making the consequences of border-crossing more serious as a deterrence,” Peters said.

Many refugees wade across the Tumen river, which marks the eastern end of the land border between China and North Korea, or walk over the frozen river in winter. Smaller numbers cross the Yalu river along the western side of the border.

Bribing North Korean border guards to allow crossings has become “increasingly common”, LiNK Global said.

“However, attempting to defect still holds a great amount of risk and danger for North Koreans,” said the group, which provides a network of safe houses for North Korean or stateless Chinese-North Korean children in China.

LiNK Global, Helping Hands and Good Friends are part of a network of international groups based in South Korea, Japan, the United States and other countries that help the North Koreans to survive in China and move on to other countries.

The aid groups face their own ­difficulties with Chinese authorities. The fallout from the arrest of two US journalists by North Korean border guards in March 2009 was also “disruptive” to the groups’ work in China, Peters said.

If those helping North Koreans are caught, “the retribution is swift and severe”, he said. Despite the risks of capture, the network helps hundreds of North Koreans make it to South Korea each year. The journey usually follows an ‘underground railway’ of back routes by train, bus, boat or foot though China into Laos, Burma, Vietnam or Thailand.

“Once refugees make it out of China, they seek asylum at a foreign embassy or consulate,” LiNK Global said.

Some 18,000 North Koreans have settled in South Korea over the past 20 years, according to the South Korean Unification Ministry. A few hundred North Koreans have also gone to the United States, Canada and other Western nations.

The proportion of women among North Koreans reaching South Korea rose rapidly to about 78% in 2007, the ministry said.

China has responded with greater efforts to stop the North Koreans entering the country illegally. It sent troops to replace armed police along the border in 2003 in an apparent response to growing cross-border migration and crime.

Recent reports suggest that China and North Korea both intensified ­security near the Chinese border before Pyongyang’s apparently disastrous attempt to revalue its currency in December, Peters said.

Some Western analysts argue that it would be relatively simple for China’s Communist Party to accept North Koreans as refugees and to use economic, political and even military pressure to persuade North Korea to end its nuclear weapons programme.

But the allies in the 1950-53 Korean War have a complicated relationship.

China is forced to forge an “awkward cooperation” with North Korea over the migrants, said Shi Yinhong, an international relations specialist at People’s University in Beijing.

“If China sends them back to North Korea then South Korea and Western nations would criticise China,” Shi said.

“I think China has made great efforts to maintain its security and uphold humanitarianism as well,” Shi said. “It’s difficult to deal with but China has made efforts, otherwise the situation would be even worse.”

China has criticised North Korea’s nuclear weapons programme and hosted the stalled six-nation negotiations aimed at persuading Pyongyang to end the programme. But it gave a cool response to calls for the UN Security Council to impose new sanctions over North Korea’s apparent torpedoing of the South Korean warship Cheonan in March.

Beijing has plenty of reasons for wanting Kim Jong Il’s regime to remain in power. It is concerned about a potential flood of refugees if North Korea suffers more famine or instability. An even greater concern for China’s Communist Party could be the effect of the fall of the Korean Workers’ Party on its own future.

A report in November by the Brussels-based International Crisis Group concluded that China “continues to act in ways that shield” North Korea from “more punitive measures, including stronger economic sanctions”.

source: heraldscotland

It's sad that they go from one nightmare to another

Date: 2010-06-21 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loverboy.livejournal.com
I always find posts about North Korea fascinating, until I get to the end of the article and realize that the whole situation is just depressing.

Date: 2010-06-21 03:14 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-06-21 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyuna.livejournal.com
Jup. :/

have you seen this?

Date: 2010-06-21 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvvanilla.livejournal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Ulrc-r5xk&feature=PlayList&p=F5BEFE1AFB1DAFD1&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=12

it's exactly what you described... fascinating at first but depressing when you think about it :(
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Re: have you seen this?

Date: 2010-06-21 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvvanilla.livejournal.com
yes please? what's your youtube page? ^-^
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Re: have you seen this?

Date: 2010-06-21 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anti-tortoise.livejournal.com
You're apart of Link too? :D It's such a great organization.

Date: 2010-06-21 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nishiio.livejournal.com
Agree with your comment 100% OP.

“North Korean women are highly vulnerable to sexual slavery and other exploitation in China, but many prefer selling their body to repatriation to their famine-stricken country,” said Chun Ki Won, the head of the Seoul-based Durihana Mission.

This...ugh. I don't know what to say. =(

Being Chinese, I feel ashamed at times at China's behaviour/decisions. But obviously, it's definitely not easy for it to make a decision and not suffer major consequences. It's in a really really awkward position right now every situation is probably lose-lose.

...I really don't know what else to do but wait. ;___;

Date: 2010-06-21 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skrillex.livejournal.com
This is depressingly horrible.

Image (http://img692.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sadonew.gif)

“Even if they have children, that does not deter the decision to send these women back,” Peters said, adding many children of repatriated North Korean women remain in China as orphans or face an uncertain future with their Chinese families.

I can't begin to imagine the trauma/pain/etc. those children would have to go through, even at some being at such a young age. Being orphaned in itself is one thing, but witnessing your mother being taken away from you, and KNOWING she's out there somewhere is on it's own levels of depressing.
):

Date: 2010-06-21 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangethoughts.livejournal.com
So, THIS is how China's solving their missing girls problem. Just use North Korean women as brood mares for children and then your family line continues. Nice, real classy China.

Date: 2010-06-21 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loverboy.livejournal.com
Sadly they also do a lot of shady stuff to Chinese women as well.

Date: 2010-06-21 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmrawr.livejournal.com
well...



shit.

Date: 2010-06-21 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ahmtal.livejournal.com
everyday i hope the whole north korea nightmare is just that, a nightmare.
unfortunately, everyday i'm dismayed...

Date: 2010-06-21 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enoa03.livejournal.com

It's sad that they go from one nightmare to another

Agree with you on that OP =(

Despite the sadness, I admire these women for being brave enough to endure these hardships, to live on and fight for their freedom. May they find the strength to continue the battle and may God send them angels to help them along the way.

Date: 2010-06-21 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padmik.livejournal.com
Well after reading that, I don't know what to say. I mean, either way it's bad, like someone above me already sad. It's an awkward situation and either way, China is going to lose in the eyes of other nations (and I'm pretty sure that N. Korea doesn't give a damn). Their best bet would have been to never get involved in the first place but that ship has already sailed.

That's really depressing though. All those people, mainly women. Gives me the chills.

Date: 2010-06-21 03:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-06-21 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] letseaticecream.livejournal.com
Everytime I read an article about NK, it just depresses me more and more.
I just can't believe things like concentration camps are just allowed to go on even in today's society, and there's nothing we can really do about it.
It horrifies me to no ends that opting to sell their bodies is actually the easy way out in their situation. The other option must actually be hell.

Really puts into perspective my 'problems'.

Date: 2010-06-21 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anti-tortoise.livejournal.com
Kind of related, but if anyone wants to get involved with this:

LiNK (Liberty in North Korea) is an American non-profit organization that gets funds from fundraisers from it's chapters in universities. They work to finding North Koreans in China, housing them in underground shelters until they have enough money to smuggle them to Thailand so they can be settled in Korea or America.

They have a current program trying to legalize adoption of North Korean children born both in North Korea and China because right now, you can't adopt children that don't have status in a country.

They're a really good organization. It takes $2500 to rescue one person, so they need help getting fundraisers. So far, they've rescued 40 people.

here's their website: http://www.linkglobal.org/
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Date: 2010-06-21 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anti-tortoise.livejournal.com
I found out about them a few months ago. I'm setting up the chapter at my university.

Date: 2010-06-21 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nene718.livejournal.com
Thanks for this. I hadn't heard about them before.

Date: 2010-06-21 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anti-tortoise.livejournal.com
They are great people there.

Date: 2010-06-21 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyankee.livejournal.com
I've sat down to look at this information probably a hundred times and I want to start a chapter/host a fundraiser at my college but I have no idea who I need to get in touch with about it. :|

Date: 2010-06-21 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anti-tortoise.livejournal.com
Have you tried the website? There's a part on the website for starting a chapter and you put in your contact info for them to contact you.

Date: 2010-06-21 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyankee.livejournal.com
Sorry, which part do you mean? I'm either a moron or it's hidden somewhere!

Date: 2010-06-21 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anti-tortoise.livejournal.com
They revamped their website recently, so its a little confusing.

http://chapters.linkglobal.org/users/enroll_beta

You can go here and signed up to start a chapter and someone will contact you.

Date: 2010-06-22 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lightframes.livejournal.com
Thanks for the info.

Date: 2010-06-21 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cher-ex3.livejournal.com
This reminds me a little bit of the movie Crossing. Excellent movie about the reality with defectors.
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Date: 2010-06-22 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cher-ex3.livejournal.com
IKR? It had me in tears too. The entire movie was just... excellent.

Date: 2010-06-21 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cindel.livejournal.com
I'm not understanding why China would send back NK women when it's a known fact they benefit from it. NK sells their women to rural men that cannot find wives hence solving their unbalance gender population.

Date: 2010-06-21 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ai-fantasy9.livejournal.com
i don't know either, but what i know, things are always a bit more complicated than what we think. nothing is black and white.

Date: 2010-06-21 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cityinsurrender.livejournal.com
As much as I find these stories and reports interesting, it makes me sick to my stomach. ): It's hard to imagine that level of horror, it really must be an endless nightmare for those women. *sigh*

In February 2008, North Korea publicly executed 15 people who were accused of entering China or attempting to cross the border illegally...

...Is this is medieval times? js;sn;''sff;]aodjm Public execution, stretching torture, whatever it is, that's just sickening.

Date: 2010-06-21 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tribuo-venerati.livejournal.com
They even publicly executed a man for using a cell phone to talk to someone in South Korea...it really is sickening.

I think the reason why the NK government is doing these public executions is to make a strong "example" out of these people - to use them as a deterrent. Nowadays more and more information has been leaking into the North from the South and other countries. Some North Koreans even use cell phones smuggled in through China. The NK citizens are slowly becoming more aware of the disparity between their reality and what the government has been telling them all their lives. So of course the government is getting a little paranoid and starting to backlash. Hopefully this means that there might be some sort of revolution or something along those lines in the future. One can only hope...

Date: 2010-06-21 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skadisprotegee.livejournal.com
These stories are always so, so, so hard to read and really fuel my passion to want to help.

Date: 2010-06-21 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenforsaker.livejournal.com
Holy crap. O.O
</3

Date: 2010-06-21 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] summanaro.livejournal.com
The fallout from the arrest of two US journalists by North Korean border guards in March 2009

I thought this sounded familiar. it was laura ling and euna lee from current tv. they eventually made it back to the states safely.

this article is just... fuck. sad. I hope more people find refuge instead of what the majority of this article is describing.

Date: 2010-06-22 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinadori.livejournal.com
Very sad but not surprising. China doesn't even care about their own people... they're not going to gave a damn about a bunch of North Koreans.

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