[identity profile] goshipgurl.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid
The first accuser, the only Korean one out of the three (so far), has revealed more details about their relationship.

Do you memorize the same lines when flirting? You seem like a serial criminal because I heard the exact same lines that the Chinese fan heard from you. ‘I only read your letters,’ ‘I don’t read other fan letters,’ ‘I am good at reading people, and you seem like a nice girl,’ ‘You are the first fan that I have contacted so please keep it a secret.’

We first began dating on July 2019. He told me that I was now his girlfriend and not his fan and told me in advance about the Burberry event in the U.K. that was taking place in September. He told me he had makeup remover and to wash up and rest in his bed. I told him that it was that time of the month and yet he still demanded on having intercourse.

After a few months of dating, he wanted to breakup saying that he would be busy in October. He said he would feel bad breaking up over text (KakaoTalk) and asked to meet up to talk. We met up in the early morning before SuperM left for L.A. (October 2, 2019) and said that he wanted to remain friends. He then told me about what a time he had been having and asked me to understand him. At that time, he was busy with SuperM and WayV promotions and had a hard time during the “Moonwalk” MV because one member kept messing up the dance, delaying the shoot. He said he was so frustrated that he even smoked in front of the director who was talking to him.

After I said that I would understand his busy schedules, he told me to wait five years and that in five years he would buy a house in Korea so that we could live together. After leaving with no hard feelings, he contacted me the next day from the U.S. telling me that he wanted to see me.

I don’t know the full details, but their manager made a huge mistake during the WayV Thailand fan meeting and the members had to face the consequences. He then stated that because of that incident, he is now the head of the WayV team (including both the members and the manager) and that he had even more power than the head manager.

The manager that lived in the dorms with Lucas knew that he was going out to meet his girlfriend, although he doesn’t know that that person is me. Lucas had to cross the living room from his room to come out to see me, and although the manager was there talking on the phone, they did not stop him from going out.

The second time we dated was from November 2019 to March 2020. From November, he had some more leeway in his schedules and said he wanted to date again and when he was in China, we used WeChat to video call while when he was in Korea, we met in hotels mostly.

Although there were times where I liked dating him as an idol that I liked, apart from jokes, he often said uncomfortable things. He asked me if I saw Chen’s wedding announcement article and said, ‘If a baby is born, getting married is a given. Should we do that too?’ He also told me about his ex-girlfriends’ heights and bodies so as a fellow woman, it was uncomfortable. I thought that he could also talk about my body elsewhere too.

He told me that during his schooling years, he met the wrong friends and went to a massage room in China where he lost his virginity to a Chinese woman and although he liked tall women in his schooling days, because most tall women had bodies like men, he came to like shorter women.

He also said that before he entered SM Entertainment, in HongKong, he ran over to physically fight for his friend that was being bothered. He said with his own mouth that it was gangsters he fought with and that because he was good at fighting, the gang boss had wanted to recruit him.


Just like what I had previously uploaded, I paid for all of the date expenses including luxury gifts and the hotels. There was also a time where I lost my credit card on the day where I had promised to meet Lucas at a hotel. I had asked him if he could pay for the hotel once because I lost the card by which to pay by, but he said that his manager could check his card history and rejected my request firmly.

During Lucas’ birthday in 2020, the suite room we stayed in was on the outskirts of Seoul and did not have convenience stores nearby. As soon as he reached, he asked where the cigarettes were and I said I thought he would of course get his own. Because of the cigarettes, I took a taxi at dawn to a convenience store to buy them. He told me to go get them because he could not.

20.10.01 He came to find me at the apartment I lived alone in. It was Chuseok so he said he had no schedules and that he promised to go see the sea with Hendery and WinWin in the evening. He reached my house and we spent some time together after which Hendery contacted him so he left immediately to go to Wolmido to see the sea. The last time we met was at a hotel on February 4, 2021.

Lastly, there were many times where I thought that when he said we should still remain friends, it was not that of a normal friendship but more like a (sex) partner. There might be people that say, birds of a feather, or why didn’t I tell this to Lucas in the first place, but at that point of time, I liked him too much and I thought that things would be okay as long as I followed what he wanted, understood him and held things in, and that was what I had thought for 2 years.

There were times where I asked if he was dating me because he really liked me, but whenever I asked that, he would say he sincerely liked me and asked me to trust him. Sometimes he would say ‘Stop it. I’ll tell you once more. I’m busy and I have things going on at home…’ and he even got angry and shouted to the point where I was scared. Before the Chinese fans exposed him, I completely did not know that he was meeting a few women at the same time. Not only myself, but the other victims are all still mentally hurting over Lucas’ words and actions and I am writing this one last post because I think that it is not something that he can gloss over after a few months of reflection before coming back out again.


Sources: @ooooshiiim, translated by Koreaboo

mods, I'm sorry for using Koreaboo but it was the only place where I could find the full translation. Please accept this post, I did everything on mobile and my thumb is about to fall off 😭

Date: 2021-08-26 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mil-lay.livejournal.com
Thanks for putting this together lol I’ve been distracting myself from my own messy life by wading through the internet and it just doesn’t stop... and clearly the c-ent sphere is way more well informed on this stuff than we ever will be and seem to have a more level head on their shoulders than the eng speaking int-fans still falling all over themselves to defend this dude...

Date: 2021-08-26 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikapika217.livejournal.com
oof

lemme brace my friend for his potentially being kicked out

Date: 2021-08-26 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mil-lay.livejournal.com
Well... if anyone’s interested in even more drama one of his more dedicated ex-fans really ripped into him here:

https://mobile.twitter.com/fuhcault/status/1430898418495283204?s=20

The level of cattiness and immaturity is astounding here. I can’t believe SM didn’t clamp down on this level of unprofessional behavior. Maybe the board of directors will rethink having 23(is it?) guys having a dogfight for attention, money and contracts. Sure it keeps them from fighting against the admin but what about the toxic environment fostered between members? And with the level of engagement with outsiders esp bars in China where fans are heavily involved in the artists work lives.. how tf do you expect to keep it under wraps?

I have no idea why SM debuts ppl and groups in China when they lit have no clue nor interest in managing them there. They were lucky with exo-m that none of them hated each other to this extent and decided to leave the company instead of having it out hunger games style like this.
Edited Date: 2021-08-26 08:17 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-26 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radowan.livejournal.com
"I'd hit you with a brick until your [female sex organ] [redacted]"

omg

Date: 2021-08-26 09:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-27 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timetobegin.livejournal.com
Tbh that's all I could think about while reading this. That fan needs serious therapy honestly

Date: 2021-08-27 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mil-lay.livejournal.com
kinda? the framing is deeply.. uhh,,, unhinged but it was the information about his behaviour which i couldn't find elsewhere nor was it included (or needed to be..) in his ex's letter(s) so I decided to share..

Date: 2021-08-26 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vanilla-09.livejournal.com
Yo it's really over for him this is probably why SM made the statement there is so much dirt and once the more dedicated fans turn on you it's a point of no return tbh. Poor Kun though and I remember fans defending him saying that using pig in mandarin/chinese culture was not as offensive.
Edited Date: 2021-08-26 11:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-26 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] premonitioner.livejournal.com
the video clips backing up the claims... Good lord

Date: 2021-08-27 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burnbook31.livejournal.com
damn! and even including video clips!

Date: 2021-08-27 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
damn, fan went in.

Fan needs to take a step back, breathe, get some perspective, and stop stanning entertainers, particularly men cast for looks.

Date: 2021-08-27 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mortkero.livejournal.com
Whelp, I can't see him staying.

Date: 2021-08-27 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chiives.livejournal.com
so many fat jokes when literally all the members of nct/wayv/spm are mostly skin and bones lmao

this is what happens when you somehow turn your own stalker fans against yourself 🤡🤡🤡

Date: 2021-08-27 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] em-cavey.livejournal.com
holy shit this fan is deranged. Like he sounds messy as hell but this: "I'd hit you with a brick until your [female sex organ] [redacted]" is not sth any sane person should be saying bc someone’s an asshole to his coworkers what the actual fuck

Date: 2021-08-27 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sodapab.livejournal.com
omg the bit about the label making demands and threats to fansites is worrying. What kind of twisted relationship...

Date: 2021-08-27 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] countthesaints.livejournal.com
Whew, that thread was a wild ride.

Date: 2021-08-27 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broadcities.livejournal.com
he sounds like a jerk, but how do fans know all this information?? sasaeng behavior

Date: 2021-08-27 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mil-lay.livejournal.com
i'm not 100 percent sure about this but as far as i could tell, bars in china actually are more like fans who do manager-esque duties in organising things so they do have a good reason for knowing more inside info than the average fan and actually are part of running the artist's brand. I guess while doing all of the professional work it's impossible to not see or ignore personal stuff as well? as long as artists remain good bars don't abandon them like this and keep confidence. none of which is a healthy working environment and is rife with opportunities for blackmail and entitlement. labels should have proper teams handling stuff like this from a professional distance.

but things being as they are his behaviour seems like a step too far for them resulting in them sorta exposing the nitty gritty of everything and feeling betrayed for putting in effort to promote him etc etc.. i'm not condoning it but it is a step above the typical fan entitlement cos these ppl seem to be actually part of the running of the behind the scenes show?

Date: 2021-08-28 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broadcities.livejournal.com
ah thanks for clarifying! the power dynamic sounds very problematic and it seems like it's unpaid labor??

Date: 2021-08-26 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironmangina.livejournal.com
Every male idol is a gross, predatory, asshole until proven otherwise.
Edited Date: 2021-08-26 11:21 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-26 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cxxl.livejournal.com
SM better get Aespa ready for Kwangya and Kosmo

Edit: This is a bad joke, but for real this man not gonna make it. It keeps getting worse and he went from fuck boy to wherever the hell we are right now.
Edited Date: 2021-08-26 09:27 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-27 04:58 am (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-26 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greasetastic-x.livejournal.com
What a fucking mess.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Bro kick him out there is literally no point of hanging on to him.

Date: 2021-08-26 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] countthesaints.livejournal.com
Of course one of my favourites would end up being an utter little shit stain of a human being. This is exactly what happens when ~fuckboy~ tendencies go left unchecked.

Toss his ass to the curb. It's not like he brought anything beneficial to the group. Bye!
Edited Date: 2021-08-27 05:26 am (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-26 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neoreulwonhae.livejournal.com
All tall women have bodies like men? Dafuq? He's a total sexist narcissist. I'm kinda living for this drama though because it keeps getting worse and I want him to be kicked out. What a fucking insecure little douchebag.

Date: 2021-08-26 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honey-baymax.livejournal.com
His ass is completely done. Like others have said, this goes beyond being a fuckboy. No wonder his c-bar was so quick on closing, apparently they usually are the first ones to know about things like this.

I would honestly be surprised if sm does not eventually drop him, because he has lost the support of both c-fans and k-fans and as we all know they are the ones sm cares about the most in appeasing.

Date: 2021-08-26 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dior-chic.livejournal.com
I’m glad some of us caught on really quick this isn’t a simply a ‘fuckboi’ situation. I’m starting to hate that phrase with how much is downplays the damage these men cause. It isn’t just ooh messy~, his actions can very harmful.
Edited Date: 2021-08-26 11:21 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-27 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belintuchiha.livejournal.com

I’m so tired of people here and everywhere being like “ah but all men are like that” as if it’s not a bad thing cause it happens often? Like yeah men are TRASH

Date: 2021-08-27 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dior-chic.livejournal.com
I agree. Idk how they put up with that shit. Glad I don’t.

Date: 2021-08-27 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suggestivepeach.livejournal.com

Yeah, when news broke I was guilty of being like, “welp. Another shitty man.” But this is BEYOND shitty.

Date: 2021-08-27 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burnbook31.livejournal.com
he seems to have a very negative perspective on women though. if left unchecked even longer who knows what he ends up doing. i felt so uncomfortable reading those comments, i've had experiences w men being weirded out by my height (im pretty tall for my country's standard) and it feels offensive tbh.

Date: 2021-08-27 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
I love this scandal about a dumb, insecure himbo. . . . he sounds like one of my middle schoolers trying to impress people so they can be cool. Bless his heart.

Also, one of the earlier posts said sex was bad because "he hadn't had it in a year" and here we learn that he is boning all over and is just straight bad.

I am setting aside the 'still demanded on having intercourse' until there is more context and detail.
Edited Date: 2021-08-27 02:46 am (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-27 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broadcities.livejournal.com
i feel like he doesn't deserve the title himbo :(

Date: 2021-08-27 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
Happy to use a worse one! Nominations???

He comes off as too dumb and ignorant to realize he's dumb (to me). I associated himbo with dumb enough to not realize you're dumb.

For me he's not (yet) to the worst ones. I believe in acknowledging the continuum of evilness.

Date: 2021-08-28 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broadcities.livejournal.com
the way that i understand 'himbo', a himbo is a not so smart, naive man with a trained body, who is harmless and sometimes even sweet. male version of bimbo — and bimbo's often aren't evil or unkind imo lol

i'd say asshole or jerk! agree on the continuum of evilness.

Date: 2021-08-27 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dlstmxkakwldrl.livejournal.com
The way SM is still staying silent on this.. Between his bar closing, cfans demanding he leave the group and his endorsements in China dropping him, I don't know what other excuse they and he have to keep quiet. It'll only get worse for them.

Side note, Xiaojun going live last night to play with his dog and sing a random song was funny.

Date: 2021-08-27 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timetobegin.livejournal.com
Tbh I love how the other WayV's are still going on social media and doing random stuff while this all is going down.... Good for them!!!!

Date: 2021-08-27 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timetobegin.livejournal.com
Lucas for sure was one of my faves in NCT, I guess this situations once again goes to show you should never, ever trust celebrities. (Well, I just give them the benefit of the doubt but no longer offer support if I have reason to believe they don't deserve it.)

Meanwhile, NCTzens still doing the most for him so I might have to remove myself from fan accounts too.

Date: 2021-08-27 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
At first I found this to be funny cause he seemed like a guy who just wanted people to pay things for him, but it seems his perception of women is wrong and not healthy at all.

He should have that checked and re-evaluate his views because this is just trash behavior.

Date: 2021-08-27 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broadcities.livejournal.com
he is gross and sexist. if it was just some sugar mommy/baby disagreement it would've been fun, but he sounds very self-absorbed and unkind, especially towards women

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