The first accuser, the only Korean one out of the three (so far), has revealed more details about their relationship.
Do you memorize the same lines when flirting? You seem like a serial criminal because I heard the exact same lines that the Chinese fan heard from you. ‘I only read your letters,’ ‘I don’t read other fan letters,’ ‘I am good at reading people, and you seem like a nice girl,’ ‘You are the first fan that I have contacted so please keep it a secret.’
We first began dating on July 2019. He told me that I was now his girlfriend and not his fan and told me in advance about the Burberry event in the U.K. that was taking place in September. He told me he had makeup remover and to wash up and rest in his bed. I told him that it was that time of the month and yet he still demanded on having intercourse.
After a few months of dating, he wanted to breakup saying that he would be busy in October. He said he would feel bad breaking up over text (KakaoTalk) and asked to meet up to talk. We met up in the early morning before SuperM left for L.A. (October 2, 2019) and said that he wanted to remain friends. He then told me about what a time he had been having and asked me to understand him. At that time, he was busy with SuperM and WayV promotions and had a hard time during the “Moonwalk” MV because one member kept messing up the dance, delaying the shoot. He said he was so frustrated that he even smoked in front of the director who was talking to him.
After I said that I would understand his busy schedules, he told me to wait five years and that in five years he would buy a house in Korea so that we could live together. After leaving with no hard feelings, he contacted me the next day from the U.S. telling me that he wanted to see me.
I don’t know the full details, but their manager made a huge mistake during the WayV Thailand fan meeting and the members had to face the consequences. He then stated that because of that incident, he is now the head of the WayV team (including both the members and the manager) and that he had even more power than the head manager.
The manager that lived in the dorms with Lucas knew that he was going out to meet his girlfriend, although he doesn’t know that that person is me. Lucas had to cross the living room from his room to come out to see me, and although the manager was there talking on the phone, they did not stop him from going out.
The second time we dated was from November 2019 to March 2020. From November, he had some more leeway in his schedules and said he wanted to date again and when he was in China, we used WeChat to video call while when he was in Korea, we met in hotels mostly.
Although there were times where I liked dating him as an idol that I liked, apart from jokes, he often said uncomfortable things. He asked me if I saw Chen’s wedding announcement article and said, ‘If a baby is born, getting married is a given. Should we do that too?’ He also told me about his ex-girlfriends’ heights and bodies so as a fellow woman, it was uncomfortable. I thought that he could also talk about my body elsewhere too.
He told me that during his schooling years, he met the wrong friends and went to a massage room in China where he lost his virginity to a Chinese woman and although he liked tall women in his schooling days, because most tall women had bodies like men, he came to like shorter women.
He also said that before he entered SM Entertainment, in HongKong, he ran over to physically fight for his friend that was being bothered. He said with his own mouth that it was gangsters he fought with and that because he was good at fighting, the gang boss had wanted to recruit him.
Just like what I had previously uploaded, I paid for all of the date expenses including luxury gifts and the hotels. There was also a time where I lost my credit card on the day where I had promised to meet Lucas at a hotel. I had asked him if he could pay for the hotel once because I lost the card by which to pay by, but he said that his manager could check his card history and rejected my request firmly.
During Lucas’ birthday in 2020, the suite room we stayed in was on the outskirts of Seoul and did not have convenience stores nearby. As soon as he reached, he asked where the cigarettes were and I said I thought he would of course get his own. Because of the cigarettes, I took a taxi at dawn to a convenience store to buy them. He told me to go get them because he could not.
20.10.01 He came to find me at the apartment I lived alone in. It was Chuseok so he said he had no schedules and that he promised to go see the sea with Hendery and WinWin in the evening. He reached my house and we spent some time together after which Hendery contacted him so he left immediately to go to Wolmido to see the sea. The last time we met was at a hotel on February 4, 2021.
Lastly, there were many times where I thought that when he said we should still remain friends, it was not that of a normal friendship but more like a (sex) partner. There might be people that say, birds of a feather, or why didn’t I tell this to Lucas in the first place, but at that point of time, I liked him too much and I thought that things would be okay as long as I followed what he wanted, understood him and held things in, and that was what I had thought for 2 years.
There were times where I asked if he was dating me because he really liked me, but whenever I asked that, he would say he sincerely liked me and asked me to trust him. Sometimes he would say ‘Stop it. I’ll tell you once more. I’m busy and I have things going on at home…’ and he even got angry and shouted to the point where I was scared. Before the Chinese fans exposed him, I completely did not know that he was meeting a few women at the same time. Not only myself, but the other victims are all still mentally hurting over Lucas’ words and actions and I am writing this one last post because I think that it is not something that he can gloss over after a few months of reflection before coming back out again.
Sources: @ooooshiiim, translated by Koreaboo
mods, I'm sorry for using Koreaboo but it was the only place where I could find the full translation. Please accept this post, I did everything on mobile and my thumb is about to fall off 😭
Do you memorize the same lines when flirting? You seem like a serial criminal because I heard the exact same lines that the Chinese fan heard from you. ‘I only read your letters,’ ‘I don’t read other fan letters,’ ‘I am good at reading people, and you seem like a nice girl,’ ‘You are the first fan that I have contacted so please keep it a secret.’
We first began dating on July 2019. He told me that I was now his girlfriend and not his fan and told me in advance about the Burberry event in the U.K. that was taking place in September. He told me he had makeup remover and to wash up and rest in his bed. I told him that it was that time of the month and yet he still demanded on having intercourse.
After a few months of dating, he wanted to breakup saying that he would be busy in October. He said he would feel bad breaking up over text (KakaoTalk) and asked to meet up to talk. We met up in the early morning before SuperM left for L.A. (October 2, 2019) and said that he wanted to remain friends. He then told me about what a time he had been having and asked me to understand him. At that time, he was busy with SuperM and WayV promotions and had a hard time during the “Moonwalk” MV because one member kept messing up the dance, delaying the shoot. He said he was so frustrated that he even smoked in front of the director who was talking to him.
After I said that I would understand his busy schedules, he told me to wait five years and that in five years he would buy a house in Korea so that we could live together. After leaving with no hard feelings, he contacted me the next day from the U.S. telling me that he wanted to see me.
I don’t know the full details, but their manager made a huge mistake during the WayV Thailand fan meeting and the members had to face the consequences. He then stated that because of that incident, he is now the head of the WayV team (including both the members and the manager) and that he had even more power than the head manager.
The manager that lived in the dorms with Lucas knew that he was going out to meet his girlfriend, although he doesn’t know that that person is me. Lucas had to cross the living room from his room to come out to see me, and although the manager was there talking on the phone, they did not stop him from going out.
The second time we dated was from November 2019 to March 2020. From November, he had some more leeway in his schedules and said he wanted to date again and when he was in China, we used WeChat to video call while when he was in Korea, we met in hotels mostly.
Although there were times where I liked dating him as an idol that I liked, apart from jokes, he often said uncomfortable things. He asked me if I saw Chen’s wedding announcement article and said, ‘If a baby is born, getting married is a given. Should we do that too?’ He also told me about his ex-girlfriends’ heights and bodies so as a fellow woman, it was uncomfortable. I thought that he could also talk about my body elsewhere too.
He told me that during his schooling years, he met the wrong friends and went to a massage room in China where he lost his virginity to a Chinese woman and although he liked tall women in his schooling days, because most tall women had bodies like men, he came to like shorter women.
He also said that before he entered SM Entertainment, in HongKong, he ran over to physically fight for his friend that was being bothered. He said with his own mouth that it was gangsters he fought with and that because he was good at fighting, the gang boss had wanted to recruit him.
Just like what I had previously uploaded, I paid for all of the date expenses including luxury gifts and the hotels. There was also a time where I lost my credit card on the day where I had promised to meet Lucas at a hotel. I had asked him if he could pay for the hotel once because I lost the card by which to pay by, but he said that his manager could check his card history and rejected my request firmly.
During Lucas’ birthday in 2020, the suite room we stayed in was on the outskirts of Seoul and did not have convenience stores nearby. As soon as he reached, he asked where the cigarettes were and I said I thought he would of course get his own. Because of the cigarettes, I took a taxi at dawn to a convenience store to buy them. He told me to go get them because he could not.
20.10.01 He came to find me at the apartment I lived alone in. It was Chuseok so he said he had no schedules and that he promised to go see the sea with Hendery and WinWin in the evening. He reached my house and we spent some time together after which Hendery contacted him so he left immediately to go to Wolmido to see the sea. The last time we met was at a hotel on February 4, 2021.
Lastly, there were many times where I thought that when he said we should still remain friends, it was not that of a normal friendship but more like a (sex) partner. There might be people that say, birds of a feather, or why didn’t I tell this to Lucas in the first place, but at that point of time, I liked him too much and I thought that things would be okay as long as I followed what he wanted, understood him and held things in, and that was what I had thought for 2 years.
There were times where I asked if he was dating me because he really liked me, but whenever I asked that, he would say he sincerely liked me and asked me to trust him. Sometimes he would say ‘Stop it. I’ll tell you once more. I’m busy and I have things going on at home…’ and he even got angry and shouted to the point where I was scared. Before the Chinese fans exposed him, I completely did not know that he was meeting a few women at the same time. Not only myself, but the other victims are all still mentally hurting over Lucas’ words and actions and I am writing this one last post because I think that it is not something that he can gloss over after a few months of reflection before coming back out again.
Sources: @ooooshiiim, translated by Koreaboo
mods, I'm sorry for using Koreaboo but it was the only place where I could find the full translation. Please accept this post, I did everything on mobile and my thumb is about to fall off 😭
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Date: 2021-08-26 07:36 pm (UTC)Thanks for accepting the post, mods ❤️
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Date: 2021-08-26 08:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-26 08:08 pm (UTC)lemme brace my friend for his potentially being kicked out
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Date: 2021-08-26 08:12 pm (UTC)https://mobile.twitter.com/fuhcault/status/1430898418495283204?s=20
The level of cattiness and immaturity is astounding here. I can’t believe SM didn’t clamp down on this level of unprofessional behavior. Maybe the board of directors will rethink having 23(is it?) guys having a dogfight for attention, money and contracts. Sure it keeps them from fighting against the admin but what about the toxic environment fostered between members? And with the level of engagement with outsiders esp bars in China where fans are heavily involved in the artists work lives.. how tf do you expect to keep it under wraps?
I have no idea why SM debuts ppl and groups in China when they lit have no clue nor interest in managing them there. They were lucky with exo-m that none of them hated each other to this extent and decided to leave the company instead of having it out hunger games style like this.
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Date: 2021-08-26 08:39 pm (UTC)omg
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Date: 2021-08-26 09:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-26 09:50 pm (UTC)That fanaccount reads like it was written by a sasaeng. Sounds kinda unhealthy tbh.
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Date: 2021-08-27 05:57 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2021-08-26 11:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-27 02:28 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-27 02:36 am (UTC)Fan needs to take a step back, breathe, get some perspective, and stop stanning entertainers, particularly men cast for looks.
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Date: 2021-08-27 04:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-27 05:21 am (UTC)this is what happens when you somehow turn your own stalker fans against yourself 🤡🤡🤡
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Date: 2021-08-27 06:12 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2021-08-27 08:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-27 03:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-27 06:58 pm (UTC)but things being as they are his behaviour seems like a step too far for them resulting in them sorta exposing the nitty gritty of everything and feeling betrayed for putting in effort to promote him etc etc.. i'm not condoning it but it is a step above the typical fan entitlement cos these ppl seem to be actually part of the running of the behind the scenes show?
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Date: 2021-08-28 07:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-26 08:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-26 09:25 pm (UTC)Edit: This is a bad joke, but for real this man not gonna make it. It keeps getting worse and he went from fuck boy to wherever the hell we are right now.
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Date: 2021-08-26 09:51 pm (UTC)Winter is also currently embroiled in some kind of scandal because she screamed at her cat or something ☠️
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Date: 2021-08-27 04:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-26 09:51 pm (UTC)Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Bro kick him out there is literally no point of hanging on to him.
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Date: 2021-08-26 10:50 pm (UTC)Toss his ass to the curb. It's not like he brought anything beneficial to the group. Bye!
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Date: 2021-08-26 10:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-26 10:59 pm (UTC)I would honestly be surprised if sm does not eventually drop him, because he has lost the support of both c-fans and k-fans and as we all know they are the ones sm cares about the most in appeasing.
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Date: 2021-08-26 11:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-27 12:58 am (UTC)I’m so tired of people here and everywhere being like “ah but all men are like that” as if it’s not a bad thing cause it happens often? Like yeah men are TRASH
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Date: 2021-08-27 03:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-27 06:24 am (UTC)Yeah, when news broke I was guilty of being like, “welp. Another shitty man.” But this is BEYOND shitty.
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Date: 2021-08-27 02:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-27 02:27 am (UTC)Also, one of the earlier posts said sex was bad because "he hadn't had it in a year" and here we learn that he is boning all over and is just straight bad.
I am setting aside the 'still demanded on having intercourse' until there is more context and detail.
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Date: 2021-08-27 03:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-27 07:49 pm (UTC)He comes off as too dumb and ignorant to realize he's dumb (to me). I associated himbo with dumb enough to not realize you're dumb.
For me he's not (yet) to the worst ones. I believe in acknowledging the continuum of evilness.
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Date: 2021-08-28 07:45 am (UTC)i'd say asshole or jerk! agree on the continuum of evilness.
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Date: 2021-08-27 05:10 am (UTC)Side note, Xiaojun going live last night to play with his dog and sing a random song was funny.
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Date: 2021-08-27 06:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-08-27 06:00 am (UTC)Meanwhile, NCTzens still doing the most for him so I might have to remove myself from fan accounts too.
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Date: 2021-08-27 07:58 am (UTC)He should have that checked and re-evaluate his views because this is just trash behavior.
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Date: 2021-08-27 03:14 pm (UTC)