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AOA's Mina has revealed that the members including Jimin met up to discuss bullying revelations.

Mina revealed the news with a post on her Instagram on the 4th writing:

"First of all, I'm sorry that I couldn't stand my emotions today and caused a lot of people to suffer. I'm sorry that so many people came to my house and worried about me, but there were a lot of things that celebrities shouldn't do or talk about. I'm just so sorry.

A few hours ago, all the members and the managers came to my house and talked to me. At first, Jimin came in angry and I was dumbfounded. I asked her if this was the face of the person who came to apologize. We argued and she asked my sister where the knife was asking if it would be enough if she died. Eventually we sat down and talked and she said she didn’t remember what happened. I continued to talk about all the times I was hurt by her. Of course, I wasn’t in my right mind either, and she didn’t recall much. I talked about when this happened and when that happened, and I couldn’t remember everything either, but what I did remember, I looked her straight in the eyes and told her.

In her mind, we resolved everything at the funeral. But it was a funeral, and at least for that day, I was there to comfort her. But that day, we contacted each other, and she, not remembering anything, said sorry, so from her point of view, I see how she might’ve thought that way. But how can you resolve 11 years of pain in a single day? That day at the funeral we didn’t discuss anything about what I suffered over the years, and how can you talk about those things at a funeral? Of course, on that day, I was sincerely there to support her, and after that, I was back to myself. When you’re broken, you don’t return to your whole self overnight.

Anyway, I continued to talk to her, and after listening, she said she was sorry. No matter how it turned out, I did receive an apology, and I decided to accept it. Jimin left, and with the remaining members, I promised to pull myself together and stop thinking of taking any extreme measures, and that was it.

I believe that our two fathers are watching us from heaven. Since I can’t lie.. To be honest, at first, when I first saw Jimin, I wondered if she actually felt any sort of guilt. But regardless, she said sorry many times.. I heard it.. I did.. Honestly, I don’t really know what to write. I truthfully didn’t see any intention from her to sincerely apologize, but this could be because of my own sense of inferiority, or it could be that I just want to see it that way since I’m so mad at her..

To her, it could have been sincere, so it’s hard to say for certain what it was. But since I need to wrap up.. Moving forward, I’m going to regain my composure and work hard and continue to receive treatment. I won’t be making any more of a fuss about this. I’m really sorry.. I’m sorry.. I’m going to try to get better little by little. There are a lot of people who were affected by me today, and I’m really sorry……. Even in this post, I don’t think I was able to write anything positive about Jimin. I acknowledge that. Honestly, I haven’t even been thinking about her apology at the end. The image of her coming over angry is what’s continually playing in my head. I’m as broken as can be, so it’s not going to be an immediate recovery…….. but I’m going to try. It’s also what I agreed to do..

I’m not going to mention this or post about this again.. It’s not good writing, so I’m not even sure what it says, but anyway, I’m sorry again.."


sources: dailynaver, @kvwowv
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Date: 2020-07-03 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myrrhcat.livejournal.com
i hate that she feels she has to apologize for speaking her truth.

at this point, i guess there's nothing left to be said. it feels useless and cruel to speculate any further, because we really don't know. we weren't there. i hope people will continue sending love to mina, and not dwell on jimin or the other members.

eta - throughout this, i've been thinking that it'd be better to say "abuse" than "bullying," because the latter has such a schoolyard connotation, it makes it seem less serious
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Date: 2020-07-04 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aures.livejournal.com
i totally agree with you re: abuse, this goes beyond bullying / "joking" around. abuse is a better term, good point.

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Date: 2020-07-03 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torontok.livejournal.com
So two things:
1-Jimin is a vile, worthless piece of shit.Showing up to your victims house angry, threatening suicide to manipulate herm gaslighting and then giving an insincere apology to save your own ass? She truly went through the abuser's playbook for this one. I hope she rots.

2-Fuck FNC, the managers and the other members for taking an angry abuser directly to the victim's home, her sanctuary.They did not have Mina's best interest in mind here.

Anyways this is the end of AOA and what a way to go. I wish Mina all the best and I hope she heals,she seems like such a wonderful, sensitive soul.


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Date: 2020-07-04 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] accioanime.livejournal.com
this. this. this. wtf at Jimin manipulating the situation by threatening with that knife. Mustve been traumatizing to Mina. I think she really showed her card here. So manipulative. So NOT sorry.

it's all damage control by FNC. Where were they when Mina was suffering?! Now they wanna talk?

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Date: 2020-07-04 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happypurinsu.livejournal.com
MTE. This was NOT an attempt to make amends by sincerely apologizing and recognizing Mina's hurt.

They literally went there to silence her, and I'm somewhat side-eyeing the other members for joining.

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Date: 2020-07-03 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ggumd.livejournal.com
Jimin is a horrible human being. She fucking gas light mina throughout that “apology” and they basically pressured her by bringing the staff along.

I hope jimin and the complicit members/company get their comeuppance in this lifetime and Mina gets the help she needs.

And I do not believe the members were not aware of this at all. She was driven to attempting suicide *several times*, due to years of constant bullying which could not have possibly gone unnoticed.
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Date: 2020-07-04 08:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
They knew, it's likely others were also bullied (y certainly implied she was) and we can onlt wonder about choa

More than anything fnc knew, mina received scar treatment, which they likely paid for

Date: 2020-07-03 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodtaki2.livejournal.com

This just cements that Jimin is indeed a abusive and does not feel bad nor acknowledge the things she said. Poor mina, I hope she finds peace in her heart and mind. It's so sad that even now, she apologizes for speaking out and standing up for herself.


FNC is trash, I hope they get backlash for this. But if shielding a burning son wasn't enough to tank yg or them, I doubt this will.


What were the other girls doing there. Did they come as Silent bystanders? Here for mental support for Mina or Jimin? Or to also air out their grievances?

Date: 2020-07-03 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikapika217.livejournal.com
because she seems to have no grievances with anyone except for Jimin I want to believe they were there as moral support for Mina and to be witnesses. I can only imagine that this could have gone badly if it was just the two of them alone.

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Date: 2020-07-03 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikapika217.livejournal.com
the GALL to gaslight someone in their OWN HOME after coming in angry says so much about Jimin, disgusted!

I'm so sad Mina went through this but I appreciate her frank writing and honesty throughout - it was transparent and very vulnerable - and all I want for the future is her happiness.

Date: 2020-07-03 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asnindie.livejournal.com
Jimin actually went to her house and then asked her ill sister for a knife. What a joke. And acting like Mina made it up. This is awful. And not an apology. Think about your actions Jimin. She's truly awful.

Mina don't apologise. Never apologise. Stay safe and don't let her in again.

Date: 2020-07-03 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmicdaze.livejournal.com
fuck jimin. period. the fact that she and the manager went to mina’s house to gaslight her, threaten her and then apologize insincerely just shows that she’s an unrepentant monster. i won’t feel bad no matter what happens to her.

i hope mina can find peace someday and it’s truly a miracle that she’s still here with us today. she’s suffered through way too much.

Date: 2020-07-03 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dalpaengi.livejournal.com
i hope she learns the gray rock method of dealing with jimin. I feel like this won’t be the end. the fact that she went to her house suggests that.

having experienced abusers like this and come out of the other side, I wish korea had resources for survivors of narcissistic abuse. I wonder if walking on egg shells is translated there - though I’m by no means suggesting any diagnosis on Jimin cause that’s gross. It’s just that mina’s account of Jimin’s reactions feels very familiar...

With this behavior you can only learn the art of calm and collected avoidance or a firm way of managing responses. Honestly I wish she didn’t have to experience Jimin ever again.
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Date: 2020-07-04 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soyunatetera.livejournal.com
They shouldn't have gone to her house, even less and with the managers wtf they basically cornered her in her own home
Jimin is a piece of shit
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Date: 2020-07-04 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belintuchiha.livejournal.com

This is fucked up, man. I feel so bad for Mina. Hope she finds some peace.

Date: 2020-07-04 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dior-chic.livejournal.com
‘We argued and she asked my sister where the knife was asking if it would be enough if she died. ’

This is nothing new for an abuser. My mom’s ex husband (not my father thank god) was abusive and after huge fights he’d regularly pull the ‘if I kill myself will you be happy?’ card to fuck with my mom’s head - jokes on him too since it always backfired. Mina sharing the entire situation vs just saying she apologized I think continues to show Mina’s bravery and strength in all of this.

The part about Jimin thinking everything was resolved at the funeral is something I can relate to in the terms of forgiveness. it’s her decision to forgive or not, she does not owe Jimin forgiveness, in that moment she was offering kindness and that was that. 11 years as mentioned above is a long time of pain and suffering, she doesn’t have to wipe that clean quick if she wasn’t comfortable.

FNC...I think I’m going to stop supporting them like YG. Kpop companies are no saints, they all have their demons. But FNC’s demons are roaring loudly and I can’t feel in good faith listen to their music legally.

Date: 2020-07-04 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dior-chic.livejournal.com
Also I imagine Jimin is super happy about this all being revealed
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Date: 2020-07-04 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mortkero.livejournal.com
What I'm reading here is that they turned up at her house without an invite, and then everything after sounds like bullshit and pressuring someone who is mentally fragile to accept an apology and wrap it up.

"I didn't remember what happened" sure doesn't sound like a genuine apology.

Did they have her wellbeing at heart when they pulled this stunt? I don't think so, this just makes me think worse of them.

Date: 2020-07-04 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chikage-chan.livejournal.com
That gaslighting with the knife... No, just no.
How I wish Mina could cut all Jimin from her life and not allow herself to be hurt by someone so not worth it... I truly hope she can take this “apology” and make the best out of it in order to move on, she deserves to live her best life ;-;
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Date: 2020-07-04 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inwazyja.livejournal.com
Who the hell thought bringing an abuser to their victim’s house was a good idea?

I know nothing about AOA, because the only member I know is Jimin and I always (Now not so) irrationally disliked her (which is cliche to say that now, I know). Is Mina still with the same agency? Because I don’t understand how they were allowed to pull this stunt on her otherwise.

Date: 2020-07-04 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parkjsun.livejournal.com
That's the thing, Mina left FNC early last year.

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Date: 2020-07-04 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackieee94.livejournal.com
Wtf!!! She left the company and group for a reason. Why the fuck did they think taking her abuser to her doorstep was a good idea??!! This is beyond fucked up. I’m wishing the best for Mina. I hate that she’s the one who keeps apologizing.

Date: 2020-07-04 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frequency.livejournal.com
what the fuck WHAT THE FUCK. going to someone else's home and fucking gaslighting them? so damn manipulative, my god.

mina shouldn't have to apologize for shit. i really hope she's okay.

Date: 2020-07-04 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fritterish.livejournal.com
This just seems like they’ve cornered her and invaded her personal space. Jimin is a POS, and FNC is evil for being more concerned with how this incident will affect AOA. I side-eye the other members as well? Honestly being neutral in the face of this is just nagl

Date: 2020-07-04 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rockerista03.livejournal.com
Honestly, FUCK FNC and FUCK Jimin too. They’re all monsters and Jimin showing up angry and then gaslighted Mina with the threat to kill herself is fucked up.

Date: 2020-07-04 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smilla-sini.livejournal.com
I am honestly disappointed in the other members. And Seolhyun has been my fave for a long time. They are besties with Jimin, so there is no way she didn't know. She's so outspoken on some issues, yet she let this one go for so long? It's unbelievable and really really disappointing.
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Date: 2020-07-04 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tungatunga.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure Jimin sees herself as a victim in this, it's obvious she herself is not in good place too, but she won't accept that she could hurt others with her behaviour...
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Date: 2020-07-04 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dongsaengkiller.livejournal.com
Emotional manipulation at its ugliest. Just fucking awful. And fuck their company as well

Date: 2020-07-04 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjmjchick.livejournal.com
The way that Jimin approached this situation is SO telling: from her dismissing Mina’s side as “fiction” to her going on a rampage in Mina’s home and demanding from her sister, who has CANCER, a knife so that she can kill herself, is so fucked up I can’t wrap my head around it. People are trying to compare this to the T-ara incident, but that was trounced the moment Mina posted *that* on IG.

Someone (on AllKCrap, ugh) brought up an IG Story post that Seolhyun posted a while ago that basically said that sometimes people need to be tougher and harsher to survive. Not trying to excuse the members at all, but I wonder if that’s the route they’re taking with Jimin...keeping their heads down in order to survive a working environment with her. I could see that, as Jimin comes off as a horribly manipulative and abusive person to work with. I’d add opportunistic to it, too, because it seems to me that Jimin attaches herself to Seolhyun due to her popularity.

Even still, it looks like the members are being neutral or trying to push for reconciliation in order to salvage what’s left of their careers as a group, which isn’t the way to go. We’ve been known that FNC and its CEO are trash since their little reality show.
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Date: 2020-07-04 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikapika217.livejournal.com
considering that Jimin is the leader I wonder just how much this environment has effected all of them in general or if there's a societal expectation to be silent. They could easily be victims too

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Date: 2020-07-04 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
I'm glad Mina finally got to express what she felt and say what she needed to, and I hope she can find a way to move forward, as she said she would try in this post. I'm surprised in a good way that they all had this meeting. I hope she continues to get help and unpack a lot of trauma she has experienced.

I'm far from an expert on this subject, or on the group, but her earlier posts seemed almost unhealthily fixated on Jimin. Jimin was very likely an asshole/bully. However, it also seemed like other people were too, e.g. FNC for not letting her take time off to see her father without punishing her monetarily or otherwise. Plus we don't know what FNC was telling Jimin to say as "leader"; managers are around a lot, wtf were they saying to these girls?

This is a group that seems to have several ex/members who openly mentioned mental/emotional health issues. Jimin looks like she is struggling too. I'm uncomfortable with the last few posts were most people seem to be only condemning her. Bullying/being an asshole is not ok, I don't want to excuse that, but Jimin also ooks like she needs mental health help. Doesn't it seems like AOA has a relatively high % of ex/members open about mental health problems? My instinct is to look beyond the members also, to fnc or managers or just....

Date: 2020-07-04 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikapika217.livejournal.com
All I can think about now is Choa
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Date: 2020-07-04 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onerainysunday.livejournal.com
Jimin storming into Mina’s home with the managers and members in tow is like a fucking thug rallying the troops to ambush its target in the dead of night.

Clearly she has 0 remorse and is only pissed she got called out. I’m so in awe of Mina being able to not only withstand 10 years of abuse but to have the clarity and courage to see through Jimin’s BS while acknowledging a desire to mend. I wish nothing but the absolute best for Mina and hope that she can finally embark upon a path of healing after these dark times have been brought to light.

As for Jimin... pls do yourself a favor and retire from the industry. No one will be checking for your abusive ass. And as for Seolhyun and any other members who may have enabled this... fuck you too.
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