[identity profile] juhli.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid


from some comments on r/kpop:
- Kun had a patch that said Agent Orange, the chemical that was used by US military in the Vietnam War that caused lots of health issues among Vietnamese people. (merch from the influential 80’s punk band Agent Orange)
- Winwin's had a slur against Japanese people on one of his pins. (‘Fuck’n Cool J**.’)
- SM reuploaded their teasers and the second group image teaser earlier and now the album will still be released digitally but the physical album is going to be delayed.
- The MV is gonna be delayed till 12 AM CST.

source: @wayv_official 2, u/randomneeess, u/sunnie_day

Date: 2020-06-09 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timetobegin.livejournal.com
Nice way of screwing them over

Date: 2020-06-09 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowphone.livejournal.com
some stylists getting fired for this one

Date: 2020-06-09 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dior-chic.livejournal.com
This is really disgusting

Date: 2020-06-09 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekellieee.livejournal.com
what the fuck...

Date: 2020-06-09 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rose-potion.livejournal.com
So what, until someone saw the photos and said "this is not ok", the day they had the photoshoot, no one paid attention to the clothes and accessories ? Sure Jan.
And Jesus doing that when Japan is the second big market for k-pop...

Date: 2020-06-09 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dior-chic.livejournal.com
Yea a lot of people fucked up here, this should’ve never been approved

Date: 2020-06-09 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torontok.livejournal.com
SM has been called out for this before, remember how Red Velvet's Happiness MV had to be re-edited to remove newspaper saying J"ps and 9/11 references?Clearly the styling department has learned nothing if they still haven't set up protocols on which offensive symbols to avoid.

Date: 2020-06-09 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mntsuklaa.livejournal.com
Where did the stylists get those patches and pins in the first place? And why would you ever pick out something that you don't understand the meaning of? Why wouldn't you google something before deciding to use it??

That said, stylists picking out things they don't understand is the reason Apink wore those "Ride on Maria, Jesus is dead" patches during My My promos and to this day that's the funniest outfit-related-thing I've seen in kpop.

Date: 2020-06-09 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vintage-boom.livejournal.com
they put winwin in a MILF Hunter shirt during NCT127's debut

Date: 2020-06-09 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mntsuklaa.livejournal.com
All 3 of my questions still stand, why wouldn't you do the bare minimum research and how are these people finding them?? Or do they have them custom made? (An even worse idea than someone selling them)

Oh and Bomi wore a "I ❤ cold beer" shirt in Remember MV, which isn't really that bad but still really funny considering the innocent concept...

Date: 2020-06-09 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheisagentleman.livejournal.com
taehyung (bts) wore a hoodie once that said "LEGALIZE IT" in green lmaooo

Date: 2020-06-09 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vintage-boom.livejournal.com
that was a whole fashion line lol I saw a few other idols wearing it too

Date: 2020-06-09 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mntsuklaa.livejournal.com
Lol I remember that, it's even funnier considering Korea's attitude towards weed

Date: 2020-06-09 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohmylol.livejournal.com
I remember Jonghyun wearing a shirt that says "socialismo" and i don't know if that was an issue or not but it made me laugh because i really don't think he knew what it said lol.



Date: 2020-06-09 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheisagentleman.livejournal.com
screaming omg

although if i had to choose an idol who would've been anti-capitalism, i'd def would've picked jonghyun. absolute legend

Date: 2020-06-09 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohmylol.livejournal.com
Definitely, that man truly was amazing , but considering it's SK and with the NK situation plus how a lot of dumb people act like if socialism was the worst thing ever i really don't think an idol will willingly use a t-shirt that says socialismo lmao.





Date: 2020-06-09 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vintage-boom.livejournal.com
yea there's a lot of...how to say it...people in the arts and in particular fashion who value un-criticized creative expression/aesthetic over critical thinking and consideration for how an audience could be harmed by their work
Edited Date: 2020-06-09 04:28 pm (UTC)

Date: 2020-06-09 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mntsuklaa.livejournal.com
Exactly, if it's just the ~aesthetic~ that they want they could easily just pick out something that isn't creepy or offensive. Especially bigger companies like SM that are custom making clothes for MVs and whatnot (e.g. JCC's episode where Johnny and Jaehyun go see how the Punch outfits are made).
Making stencils for tshirts is one of the easiest DIYs you could do. You can find inoffensive patches at fabric stores. And I know you can make your own badges that don't have slurs on them.

Date: 2020-06-12 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dropit87.livejournal.com
Chanyeol's I love S**** shirt always made me laugh

Date: 2020-06-09 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohlookshiny.livejournal.com
me to sm rn:

Image

i hope some ppl get fired over this.

Date: 2020-06-09 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broadcities.livejournal.com
lol this gif says everything and more

Date: 2020-06-10 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicpineapple.livejournal.com
this gif im wheezing omg

Date: 2020-06-09 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vintage-boom.livejournal.com
the amount of opportunity for oversight and them letting an actual slur be used...

Creative Directors,
Artistic Directors,
Styling Team,
Photo Team,
Retouching Team,
Packaging Design Team,
Social Media Team,
shit even the actual printers
+ Management at all levels of those are all places this could have been flagged.

I'm still baffled at how none of these agencies seem to have any cultural/diversity oversight staff made up of people who have lived abroad but want to include it and other languages/references all the time to try and appeal to those audiences.

Date: 2020-06-09 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dongsaengkiller.livejournal.com
Oh wow... when you break it down like that it’s inexcusable that not one person said “hey, English words I don’t understand here, let’s make sure it’s ok to use them”.

Date: 2020-06-09 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vintage-boom.livejournal.com
ty for understanding my mess of a comment lol i just re-read it and part of it is hot garbage

with agent orange it's possible someone flagged it in the lower ranks but upper mgmt said not to worry about it because it's a band patch. that does happen a lot but using a whole ass SLUR, absolutely no excuse

Date: 2020-06-10 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicpineapple.livejournal.com
shit even the actual printers

idk if you meant the person who is in charge of printing or the machine that does the actual printing, but i thought you meant the machines & that bit made me giggle somewhat lol

i haven’t slept in like 2,5 days plz forgive me & my train of thought

Date: 2020-06-09 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] countthesaints.livejournal.com
Disappointed, but not surprised.

Date: 2020-06-09 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheisagentleman.livejournal.com
damn. well, at least someone noticed prior the release. although my biggest pet peeve is clothes that nobody researches the meaning of. if you don't know what it says, google it dammit. it takes you five minutes!

Date: 2020-06-09 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suggestivepeach.livejournal.com

Pretty sure they only noticed bc fans mass emailed them. I saw a lot of tweets floating around asking fans to inform the company about the insensitivity.

Date: 2020-06-09 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebloomroom.livejournal.com
Wtf??? Their stylists are something

Date: 2020-06-09 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohmylol.livejournal.com
their stylists are always fucking up, didn't one member of nct (don't remember who) wore a Lynyrd Skynyrd shirt with the confederate flag, and it's especially fucked up when you consider they want kpop to be global and they want that US money/break in the US market, why they don't hire people for that?




Date: 2020-06-09 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheisagentleman.livejournal.com
taeil! for the little love song mv they did. i understand if a regular person doesn't know the confederate flag. (i didn't know what that was until i was like -- 18? and i found out through omonatheydidnt lmao) but if i were styling a global group i'd be careful with what i choose tbh.

Date: 2020-06-09 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blck-ink.livejournal.com
how this could have happend is beyond me. the internet is right here to show you why the use of those words are highly insensitive and hurtful. for a company as big as sm they keep messing it up when it comes to respecting other cultures. good thing the fans reported it and were listened to.

Date: 2020-06-09 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veep-throat.livejournal.com

They really dgaf wow

Date: 2020-06-10 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kcaomei.livejournal.com
when a company is a consistent repeat offender you wonder if they really just dgaf or if it's intentional tbh

Date: 2020-06-10 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klauses.livejournal.com
.............. tbh i think it's intentional. at least sometimes. i am CONVINCED that RV's happiness mv controversy was intentional to get people talking about that and get the heat off of the EXO scandal that was happening at the time

Date: 2020-06-10 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kcaomei.livejournal.com
ita, i definitely wouldn't put it past them. these companies can be so shady with their ulterior motives

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