Crayon Pop's Ellin Responds To Romance Scam Accusation

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— Soompi (@soompi) November 3, 2019

Crayon Pop’s Ellin has spoken up about the accusation that she had committed a romance scam.

A romance scam is a form of fraud in which the perpetrator feigns romantic emotion towards a victim to gain their affection and uses the victim’s trust to commit fraud.

On November 1, an anonymous netizen (hereafter referred to as “A”) accused a female BJ (broadcast jockey), who was formerly an idol, of scamming him of 1 billion won (approximately $856,900) by pretending to be in a romantic relationship with him.

According to “A,” he was a viewer of the BJ’s broadcasts on AfreecaTV and eventually met her privately. They exchanged numbers and began to text each other on a daily basis. “A” He stated that he and the BJ attended gatherings with other popular BJs, where she was physically affectionate with him. He sent 700 million won’s (approximately $599,800) worth of star balloons (virtual currency on the streaming platform) to her and spent 300 million won (approximately $257,100) more on gifts and favors like necklaces, shoes, bags, and moving expenses.

When “A” suggested that they meet more seriously, the BJ drew the line saying she only thought of him as a friend and never realized he felt that way about her. “A” stated that he was bewildered by her unexpected response and claimed that she had shared her personal phone number with him, told him her address, let him walk her home, sent a picture of her legs saying she had just woken up, discussed living together three years in the future, and introduced her mother to him.

“A” added, “I hope she won’t play with other people’s feelings after me, and I’m thinking of taking legal action against her.”

Many netizens speculated that the BJ in question was Ellin.

On November 2, regarding the accusation, Ellin posted on her AfreecaTV page saying that she would reveal her stance through a broadcast on November 3 after organizing her evidence and thoughts.

On the same day, Ellin made another official statement on her social media account.

Below is the full translation:

Hello. This is Crayon Pop member Ellin and AfreecaTV BJ hiellin.

First of all, I am writing to explain the conjectures and fabrications that arose from the accusation of a romance scam. Currently, my AfreecaTV channel has been moved to a private state, and my YouTube channel’s comment section has been deactivated.

This issue occurred due to falsely spread distorted facts, so there will be a great deal of misunderstanding and speculation. Therefore, I decided to release a statement about it. The statement will be completely factual and compact, and I will not avoid the incident by speaking about it vaguely.

It is true that “A” is a passionate fan who received exposure on my broadcast a few times due to his support with star balloons. However, just as the articles state, I have never forced or induced “A” to sponsor me with star balloons, and anyone who has watched my broadcasts will know this. I never induce my viewers to donate.

“A” set the amount of his sponsorship money higher than that of other fans and showed his influence during my live broadcasts. As a BJ, there’s an implicit rule to mention and communicate with those users, so I was able to talk separately with him.

In the process, “A” asked for my personal contact information through direct messages and chats, and I flatly rejected his offer, saying that a BJ personally contacting one individual fan would be negatively looked upon. But every time I did that, he sent me even more money during my broadcasts, and I felt so uncomfortable that I couldn’t respond to him in the way I used to before.

But regardless of what happened, the users began to collectively ask why I was ignoring the audience, so I had no choice but to give “A” my personal number and KakaoTalk [ID].

That’s when the issue arose.

As if he was entitled to it, “A” began demanding to contact me personally and to be informed of things like my scheduled activities that only my manager knows. Judging that the public opinion among users could worsen again [if I didn’t respond nicely], I was forced to treat him in a more friendly manner.

After some time passed, a few days ago, “A” talked about living together, and I made my point in this bizarre situation. And today this incident happened. Evidence to defend my statements above will soon be uploaded sequentially to my page, and I will also take all civil and criminal action I can take against the person spreading false rumors.

I apologize for causing concern to many fans.

From, hiellin.

Source: @soompi | naver 1 2 3 4 via soompi

Comments

[modestgoddess79.livejournal.com]

He threw money at her and thought that entitled him to a relationship.

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

exactly.

[xoxkenzxox.livejournal.com]

there it is.

Shoot, if someone gave me over $800K I would give them a little extra attention but when it's not real, it's not real bro. Stop being delusional.

[baekpedaling.livejournal.com]

Damn, poor Ellin. I really wouldn't put it past a guy to completely fabricate a relationship

[lydzi.livejournal.com]

So typical from men tbh. It was obvious with the way he was so whiny about it.

[tungatunga.livejournal.com]

TBH her explanation doesn't make her looks that good either, I don't care about stream donation because that's the whole business model but accepting private gifts and letting him pay for her living expenses is blurring the lines at best, and she didn't denied this KT messages and those are very flirty.

[tungatunga.livejournal.com]

Sure but he already blew half million dollars on official stream, that's some serious cash, his money his choice but the moment she took it offline it's as I wrote earlier seriously blurring the lines, and she further accepted according to this guys around 200-300 thousand dollars in gifts, that's more that Crayon Pop made in their entire career, you don't accept this kind of money off the clock and pretend that's just gift from "close oppa", she hustled in the industry for too long to pretend to be that naive.

[tungatunga.livejournal.com]

Well, I would be wary, nobody drop that amount of cash and not expect something in return. She is lucky he isn't some angry incel.

[happypurinsu.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's the issue for me as well, how far she took it offline. She's not completely innocent in this.

[juhli.livejournal.com]

uhhh, her messages looked different though...with her flirting, sending him pics of her legs and strongly hinting at stuff she wants to have. I mean, he was absolutely naive and is probably gross, but she definitely played into it and is now trying to spin a different narrative. (given that the screenshots of the kkt he shared are real and not fake).

[benihime99.livejournal.com]

I'm gonna go on team no one
He was naive and entitled but it sounds like she willingly benefitted from the situation

She didn't scam him imo, but she let the situation play out a certain way

He's a fool though, and can only blame himself
If men didn't feel so entitled, situation like this would not occur

[xoxkenzxox.livejournal.com]

I agree.

[babyjenkski.livejournal.com]

+1

[jaequeeragenda.livejournal.com]

yeah they both don't look that great lol

[rainstormraider.livejournal.com]

Lmao.

The kinda scam I love.

When you expect to pay for love you should always read the fine print. I have 0 sympathy for the dude.

[lizanka23.livejournal.com]

exactly i don't get how people are saying she is equally bad when he thinks he can buy love with money. of course it will be transactional and not a real relationship. also since he has money he's not taking into account how vulnerable and desperate people can be to get money

[kyulkyung.livejournal.com]

i'm supposed to feel sorry for a dude who has this much money to burn on a streamer? lol

[happypurinsu.livejournal.com]

I'm gonna copy-paste someone else' comment that I saw on a different site:


"If anyone wants context. She was the one who contacted him first. She directly messaged him and feigned interest. She promised to live with him and even asked to meet his parents (which she did). The language she uses in the text is the kind of language couples use. Ordinary friends do not use such language. She asked for free shit and money and he gave it to her because he legitimately thought they were a couple (I mean for petes sake, she met his parents). She then ran away with his 1 billion won (close to 1 million USD). You can blame the guy for being a naive moron, but you can't blame him entirely for being duped.

Imagine if the roles were reversed and some handsome guy promised you the world. Then he takes your money and disappears. How would you feel?"


If above is really true... then she's in the wrong.
Yes, he was naive, but she more than led him on.

But, someone said he's already donating to a new BJ girl.
Soooo it doesn't exactly sound like he learned his lesson.

I guess that means #TeamNoOne for me.

[camouflagecat.livejournal.com]

Oh, if that's true then it does change the way I'd view this case...why did she contact him first and go thru the trouble of meeting his parents and all??

[happypurinsu.livejournal.com]

For money? Since he was one of her biggest sponsors, maybe she thought she could get even more stuff.
Just speculations on my part, but might she got carried away and then regretted when it became serious.

I think the truth is a mixture of both stories (as it usually is);
He saw her stream and liked her, donated a bunch of balloons (money), enough to catch her attention (as she says, certain donation ties often results in rewards set by the website used). As they chatted back and forward, he asked for her private information, which she eventually gave him - this is where she overstepped the boundaries of a BJ. She got carried away and acted very much like a girlfriend would (even she can't deny her DMs and pics to him), maybe meeting his parents is when she realized how serious it had become, and so she pulled away.

If that's the case, I understand why he's upset that she led him on.
But also, if he has truly switched to a new BJ, he got problems himself.

[camouflagecat.livejournal.com]

Yeah I think you're right. I have a sort of a picture of what a BJ/streamer does and there's definitely lines to cross, like private information, to some extent face-to-face contact (and esp meeting the parents is pretty ?? like idk why she did that). If BJ's job is to sell a fantasy then you gotta make sure you don't cross certain lines that put you in trouble/danger (and by leading men on online where there's a pretty realistic risk that these men could be inept in social interactions and handle rejection very badly). Idk I'm just paranoid lol.

[happypurinsu.livejournal.com]

As I just replied above:

I think the truth is a mixture of both stories (as it usually is);
He saw her stream and liked her, donated a bunch of balloons (money), enough to catch her attention (as she says, certain donation ties often results in rewards set by the website used). As they chatted back and forward, he asked for her private information, which she eventually gave him - this is where she overstepped the boundaries of a BJ. She got carried away and acted very much like a girlfriend would (even she can't deny her DMs and pics to him), maybe meeting his parents is when she realized how serious it had become, and so she pulled away.

If that's the case, I understand why he's upset that she led him on.
But also, if he has truly switched to a new BJ, he got problems himself.


The gender reversal question isn't mine, so not going to answer that one.

[horichansenpai.livejournal.com]

nagl for her, but the guy throwing money at another BJ presumably to do the same thing isn't really helping his case lol

[lizanka23.livejournal.com]

lmao that guy learned nothing, is he going to shame the next BJ that does that to him too? lol. or i guess he thinks she's just a unique case and eventually he'll get an actual girlfriend with his money

[myungung.livejournal.com]

it really makes him look desperate

[krissasaur]

People like this need help. Maybe don't try to buy women?

[mortkero.livejournal.com]

She took the money and sent him selfies of her legs in bed and met his mother.

If she didn't consider herself as his girlfriend, what was she considering herself as?

It's clearly bullshit when she says she felt forced to interact with him. Like she really felt like she had to do all that, the motive is she wanted the money.

I mean she could just be clear about that rather than acting innocent?

It sounds like a case of it being transactional, but the she realised the guy was being serious and backed the fuck off with an arm full of luxury brand goods.

The guy is a rich and not so bright mug though. If he's rich enough, I'm sure one of the BJs will latch on to him to milk.

[lunarui.livejournal.com]

Go get that money Ellin! Next time be smarter about it though. . . taking money and ghosting would be fine for a regular streamer, but she has a name for herself so it's riskier

[sciencebottle.livejournal.com]

Team no one but lmao how entitled does that guy sound. His response to her response was completely laughable.

[klauses.livejournal.com]

LOL i hate men, this guy sucks