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Some excerpts:
- “Yes, the competition exists and we can’t ignore that,” says Taemin, “but we don’t want to step on other groups to get to the top. We want to stand alone as a group and bring something fresh and new to this K-pop scene.”

- “If I said I didn’t feel any pressure that would be a lie,” says Kai. “We all come from successful, established careers, but in a way, we are still unknowns, at least when it comes to this formation. But with that pressure comes this new level of excitement,” he continues, “because there’s so much more we can try and do, and the possibilities are endless.”


For nicer formatting and pics, check out the interview on the original source Rolling Stone


The well-coiffed guys from the new K-pop supergroup, SuperM, are sitting around a conference room at the Capitol Records building in Los Angeles, and feeling like they may have left something on the table.

Two days earlier, the seven-piece unit — put together using members from four established K-pop boy bands — had shut down an intersection in the heart of Hollywood and made their live debut before more than 5,000 frenzied fans, some of whom had lined up for days just to get a prime spot to see the guys perform.

For SuperM, the outdoor show — which was also streamed live worldwide on YouTube — served as their official group debut as well, with the boy band finally being introduced to the world after months of secrecy.

“Going in front of our fans and performing as SuperM was nerve-wracking, and it’s not something we usually feel because we’ve all been in this industry for a while now,” says Kai, the pretty, pouty-mouthed singer who was chosen to join SuperM from the band EXO. “There were some members that felt like maybe we could’ve done better with this or stronger with that, but it’s okay,” he says, smiling. “More than anything, I was just proud that we could finally show everyone what we’ve been preparing for.”

SuperM is the latest creation of Korean management company, SM Entertainment (the band’s name is not exactly subtle). Founded in 1995 by Lee Soo-man, a man so famous in Korea he’s just known as “Mr. Lee,” SM is regarded as one of the pioneers of the global K-pop movement, having first brought Korean artists to North America in the early 2000s at the height of the teen pop craze.

SuperM is the company’s latest attempt to make a dent in the U.S. market. After years of breaking all sorts of records in Asia but remaining relatively unknown in the States, the crossover success of bands like BTS and Blackpink have given entertainment companies like SM a renewed interest in reaching the international market, with the U.S. as a pivotal launching pad.

For SuperM, it wasn’t about starting from scratch, but rather starting from the top. SuperM culled its members from some of SM’s most popular groups, who collectively have sold more than 14 million adjusted albums combined, and amassed nearly four billion views of their music videos online. SuperM’s fans lovingly refer to them as “the Avengers of K-pop,” stemming from the belief that the group features the most talented and popular members from each of the individual bands.

Baekhyun and Kai are from EXO, a stylish and well-packaged boy band that, as of 2018, had actually sold more records than BTS in Korea (the release of BTS’ Map of the Soul: Persona this past April may tip the scales back in the latter group’s favor when final sales totals are released this year). At 27, Baekhyun is the oldest member of SuperM, and has unofficially acquired the title of group leader.

Taemin, the second oldest member at 26, is from SHINee, considered one of the veterans of K-pop, after having debuted in 2008. The group made news in 2017 after founding member, Jonghyun, died from an apparent suicide, which sparked a debate over working conditions and unreasonably high expectations for these young performers, many of whom are pulled from school to begin “training” for their debut.

The last four members of SuperM were culled from subunits of the massive 21-person K-pop group, NCT (Mr. Lee calls them the first “unlimited” boy band, with a constantly rotating roster of new members). Taeyong and Mark are from NCT 127, and Ten and Lucas are from NCT’s Chinese subset, WayV.

The idea for an all-star group was first discussed last year, though the seven members didn’t actually come together to record until earlier this spring. While the guys had met before — SM organizes an annual “SM Town” concert tour, similar to say, when Diddy took his Bad Boy artists on the road — they had never actually worked together until SuperM was formed.

The group’s debut EP, The 1st Mini Album, hit stores last week. The five-song set opens with lead single, “Jopping,” a turbo-charged track whose name comes from a combination of the words, “jumping” and “popping” (a publicist sighed that the name was both crazy yet catchy at the same time). The song mixes hip-hop with EDM, with the members trading verses in both English and Korean. The video for “Jopping,” meantime, was filmed in Dubai over the summer and has already amassed more than 22 million views online. Fueled by massive buzz for the song and album, SuperM announced this week that they will be hitting the road for a North American tour, kicking off November 11th in Fort Worth, Texas.

While BTS have blasted into the mainstream, with solid radio play, appearances on all the late-night talk shows and even Grammy buzz, the guys in SuperM are motivated to find success on their own terms.

“Yes, the competition exists and we can’t ignore that,” says Taemin, “but we don’t want to step on other groups to get to the top. We want to stand alone as a group and bring something fresh and new to this K-pop scene.”

To that end, the group has been working on carving out a more signature sound for their debut LP, which will still sit comfortably in the hip-hop/pop/R&B arena, but also see them weaving in and out of different genres within a single song. While other groups — such as Blackpink and BTS — primarily perform in Korean, SuperM could also be releasing more English language tracks. (Though Mark was born in Canada and speaks fluent English, the band’s publicist confirms the rest of the group’s members have been taking English lessons.)

They’ve been doing their homework too, listening to the radio while they’re in Los Angeles and streaming an eclectic mix of artists like H.E.R., Ella Mai, Daniel Caesar and Billie Eilish (“Let’s get that collabo!” Taemin hollers).

And while Korean management companies are notorious for controlling their groups’ images and keeping their artists on a short leash (I once arrived to meet EXO in Seoul and was told I couldn’t interview the guys in person because they didn’t have their makeup on), from this perspective, SuperM feels a lot… looser.

On this recent swing through L.A., the young men reveal that their first stop after landing at LAX wasn’t straight to their hotel, but rather to In-N-Out. Though they’ve booked dinners in Malibu, the members also rave about the traditional Korean tofu stew at BCD Tofu House, a 24-hour Southern California chain of cheap eats (“It’s honestly better than Korea,” Taeyong says). During the interview, the guys are decked out in leather jackets and oversized sweats, sipping on iced coffees from Starbucks, and fidgeting with their phones like any other twenty-something, as they dish about trying to take a group vacation after their tour is over. They travel with a translator, but all of them try valiantly to respond to questions in English before they crumble in laughter when they lose their words. If their original groups gave them a crash course in making it in the music business, it seems SuperM will give these guys a chance to be themselves — and in doing so, a chance to grow.

“If I said I didn’t feel any pressure that would be a lie,” says Kai. “We all come from successful, established careers, but in a way, we are still unknowns, at least when it comes to this formation. But with that pressure comes this new level of excitement,” he continues, “because there’s so much more we can try and do, and the possibilities are endless.”

“There are a lot of groups out there and a lot of competition,” Taeyong admits, “but our goal is to make K-pop shine even brighter. The spirit of competition is not necessarily bad, because it pushes us to want to put out better things.”

Kai is more specific: “SuperM is here to level up the K-pop genre,” he asserts. “We are ready for K-pop to start raising the bar.”

source: @rollingstone, Rolling Stone

Aaaaand ofc they had to mention Jonghyun.

Date: 2019-10-09 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xilopia.livejournal.com
yeah i hate this. i can't even focus on anything they said because of the callous way the article brings up jonghyun. like a fucking slap to the face.

Date: 2019-10-09 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohmylol.livejournal.com
Why now people always bring up Jonghyun ? especially because he is used as a footnote, he doesn't deserve that

I'm tired about the comparisons to BTS , especially because now there is a flood of armies calling them flops because yeah against BTS is pretty hard to compete and even if they have pre-established careers they are debuting and a lot of fans of their respective fandoms weren't happy, , they don't deserve to be called flops

Date: 2019-10-09 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belintuchiha.livejournal.com
once BTS starts flopping, armeries will prob die lol
cause everything comes to an end, especially in kpop

Date: 2019-10-09 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
I mean technically they did flop at being the "Avengers of K-Pop" and were supposed to be challenging BTS.
That was the entire PR campaign in a nutshell and now they are at 65K with bundles and less iTunes #1s than brand new debut groups.

Of course they didn't flop in the traditional sense but this doesn't count as a huge success either.

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Date: 2019-10-09 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torontok.livejournal.com
This article is straight trash, they could have used any of Taemin and SHINee hundreds of achievements to introduce him but they tossed Jonghyun in there as a footnote.

Man they're about to get dragged so hard once the Billboard chart comes out and the payola shows up, I'm not looking forward to it

Date: 2019-10-09 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sciencebottle.livejournal.com
Big yikes at this article. Jonghyun is not a fucking footnote.

Date: 2019-10-09 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marisurisa.livejournal.com
Wooow. More than 11 years of hard work, creation and memories and they choose to use the most sensitive and painful one and condense it into a one sentence footnote. Fucking wow. What a journalism.

Date: 2019-10-09 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byeolbyeol.livejournal.com
jonghyun didn't need to be mentioned here. they could've just paraphrased on shinee's long list of achievements over the last eleven years, but western media loves to take any chance that they can to reduce him down to his death or use him as a talking point. color me shocked. he deserves better as per usual.
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Date: 2019-10-09 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dongsaengkiller.livejournal.com
Thanks, I hate it

Date: 2019-10-09 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] countthesaints.livejournal.com
Fuck Rolling Stone.

Date: 2019-10-09 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greasetastic-x.livejournal.com
yes ignore all of SHINee and Taemin's accomplishments to act like Jonghyun's death is a stain on their career and that he's some martyr displaying the horrors of kpop. from that second on this article was trash. he nor shinee deserve that.

Date: 2019-10-09 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merlugd.livejournal.com
This sounds like theyre making fun of them (?). I felt bad for Taemin (he is the one I enjoy the most), like, he doesnt deserve this after all these years and great selfmade albums... Also Junghyun...l might understand that mayybe some general public might remember that? But why? There is no problem with SuperM, nobody Is complaining about the work conditions, they all seem to be in great health, why talk about that as if you didnt have Justin Bieber or Selena Gomez as proof that the same happens in the American music industry... I mightve heard tht story about the makeup elsewhere, cant remember though.

Date: 2019-10-10 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baekpedaling.livejournal.com
Yeah I'm not reading this. I got to Baekhyun being the "unofficial" leader, came sown to the comments and am disgusted. Fuck them

Date: 2019-10-10 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jyusou.livejournal.com
Yawn. Can’t wait to see sperm and beyond the scene both flop at this point, for entirely different reasons.

Date: 2019-10-10 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
Beyond The Scene is such a terrible name. Who is coming up with this stupidity?

Date: 2019-10-10 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uledy.livejournal.com
Thanks for the note OP- I definitely won't be reading! Writer and everyone who throws Jjong's name and death around in hallow, irrelevant fashions can surely fuck off 😊

Anyway, I got tix to SuperM and I already to give Taemin all of my love! I hope he's ready ❤

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Date: 2019-10-10 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veep-throat.livejournal.com

Who keeps letting kai speak 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Date: 2019-10-10 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babyjenkski.livejournal.com
Good thing I read the comments first. I was somehow prepared. I just want to say

- This article didn't have anything new that I don't already know. The purpose of the article is to introduce the group maybe to those who are not familiar with kpop. I just didn't like the information they put in there to introduce them like pulling up the albums EXO sold versus BTS. There are sooo many interesting things about Baek and Kai it weirds me out why they were introduced that way. And of course Taemin. Why not say something like the number of sold out solo concerts and multiple awards he earned as a soloist?

- A lot of people calling them flop not just ARMYs. People from different fandoms said it too. Which is something I will never understand.

- It's not correct to ever call this group a flop because the number of albums sold, the MV views, the interest (even if its just to hate on them) is so high to call them such. We have high expectations because they are the best of the best from SM and they proved that they're really the best by making something out of a rather ordinary song called "Jopping" the members stage performances are all good. It would've been many more times amazing if they had a really really good song.

- BTS will always come up in conversations/comments because we all know how huge they are. I've accepted that already so whenever BTS comes up, I just move on and let it go =) I will forever be happy and proud about the groups achievements. Other groups can also be popular in the US like them =)

I have favorite groups, a lot actually, and there are certain groups I dont like. I love kpop overall so every time a group is able to further expand its popularity to other countries, it always makes me happy (even if its not my favorite group). I don't expect everyone to have the same mindset, just sharing my thoughts =)
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Date: 2019-10-10 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katheli.livejournal.com
the EXO vs BTS numbers thing is even worse cause it's wrong lol BTS have sold more albums as of 2019. Really unnecessary to put wrong info in there to compare the two groups and boost one.

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Date: 2019-10-10 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] markama.livejournal.com
Hopefully...Image

Date: 2019-10-10 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
It is disgusting that the artistry of Jonghyun and Taemin is reduced to a shitty paragraph. To anyone interested in listening to a flawless album that is actually deserving of accolades check out Poet. Support real talent.

Date: 2019-10-10 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikapika217.livejournal.com
Wow, this article and writer are hot garbage

The only real mistake SuperM made, aside from 'Joppin' as a whole, was putting a bench mark on their goals and making it clear they were specifically going for what BTS has. There's room for everyone but you have to do it being yourself - look at how well Monsta X and other groups are doing - and not some cobbled together mess you feel will maximize your chances at a win

Date: 2019-10-10 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphiredeity.livejournal.com
ngl i lost braincells reading this comment.

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Date: 2019-10-10 11:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mecchayabai.livejournal.com
the article is trash in so many ways, it's pretty amazing they managed all that in a single piece of writing

also taemin, saying "bring something fresh and new to this K-pop scene" when you've just debuted with the most sm track possible? honey please

Date: 2019-10-10 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackieee94.livejournal.com
How about next time you don’t call yourselves the avengers of kpop 🤷🏻‍♀️. Capitol and SM fucked them by having these high ambitions from the get go.

They could of just listed all of Shinee’s achievements. No need for the Jonghyun mentioned.

Date: 2019-10-10 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphiredeity.livejournal.com
uhh they call themselves avengers of kpop bcs they're collaborating with marvel

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