Date: 2019-08-17 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baekpedaling.livejournal.com
Did they post this filmed with a potato quality video on purpose? So the fandoms that are pissed can't blur or crop anyone out because you can't tell who anyone is?


Oop nvm Baekhyun and Kai fans already posted videos of only their parts lol
Edited Date: 2019-08-17 04:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-08-17 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dalpaengi.livejournal.com
lol! for some reason i can’t stop laughing. good ol exo l!

Date: 2019-08-17 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kcaomei.livejournal.com
lmao i hope SM didn't actually think fans wouldn't be able to identify their faves

Date: 2019-08-17 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] horichansenpai.livejournal.com

Dammit I can't unsee SuPerm now thanks to everyone lol

Date: 2019-08-17 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figus204.livejournal.com
Was that supposed to make me excited for what is to come? Because that gave me nothing...
Still praying for the song to be good though

Date: 2019-08-17 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowphone.livejournal.com
GIVE ME SPERM

Date: 2019-08-17 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikapika217.livejournal.com
I mean we all know they can sing and dance, just put out the mini album and MV teasers

Date: 2019-08-17 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alterlife.livejournal.com
Im going to be optimistic since i love most of those boys and theyre under a lot of pressure.

Date: 2019-08-17 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ty.livejournal.com
hft

Sprem UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Date: 2019-08-17 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kcaomei.livejournal.com
why are they giving us a type of teaser that'd be used for a new group where all members haven't been announced yet? lol

Date: 2019-08-17 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
i guess bc technically they're a new group targeting a new market? even though it's mostly existent k-pop fans paying attention to them lol
Edited Date: 2019-08-17 10:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-08-18 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kcaomei.livejournal.com
but either way all the members were already announced so there's really no need for the whole 'who could these shadows and silhouettes belong to??' mystery lol

Date: 2019-08-18 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
oh yeah that's true lol. maybe they just wanted to make it seem more dramatic like look how hard Superm are practicing and preparing, etc.

Date: 2019-08-17 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broadcities.livejournal.com
don't understand this teaser, doesn't really fit with their image as a supergroup but ok

i'm still kind of here for this!

Date: 2019-08-17 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
I am sitting here with my jaejoongpopcorn.gif waiting for the multifan fallout from all this.

Secretly rooting for their success too but mostly here for the fallout.

Date: 2019-08-17 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] froggster.livejournal.com
I'm going to laugh SO HARD if the end result ends up being some basic ass dime in a dozen type song/video/choreo
I'm just glad I'll be able to see Ten in something that is not China.

Date: 2019-08-17 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] markama.livejournal.com
I don't know what to think of it...Image

Date: 2019-08-17 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cocacola.livejournal.com
ldnnoise shared at kcon that they produced superm's song and it has mostly english lyrics. also that it'll be released this month. i'm really curious to see what it's like

Date: 2019-08-17 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
interesting. i know the nct members can sing in english but i don't know that much about the exo-l members to know if they can sing in English. It seems like they're actually targeting the American market though with the release of an english song

Date: 2019-08-18 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apathycollusion.livejournal.com
Might be an unfavorable opinion, but I wish more Kpop acts would work with more unique/interesting producers to spruce it up a bit. A lot of why these acts fail when they come to the West, is that it sounds like a B-side of an American group many years ago. I'm waiting for a moment when a Kpop group can give me a Janelle Monae Dirty Computer/Bjork moment, but alas that seems very far fetched lol.
Edited Date: 2019-08-18 01:51 am (UTC)

Date: 2019-08-18 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
i love janelle monae and bjork too! yeah i usually listen to indie/ more alternative pop music if it's from the West. i like that k-pop can be more experimental back in Korea, and i agree keeping that same approach in the US will make them stand out and bring something new to the table, so people can't think why should I listen to k-pop when we have music like that here. k-pop companies though seem to want make as much money as they can in the shortest amount of time possible, so they try to imitate the more mainstream sound

Date: 2019-08-18 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apathycollusion.livejournal.com
Yeah if I'm being honest, I really delved more into Kpop from Fall 2018 prior to that I listened to the popular songs here and there. But I definitely feel like it would be great to have more experimentation imo, I feel like Pop/Ballad Songs are hugely popular in SK for its industry compared to the West where there are more avenues/niches for indie/independent artists.

Lee Soo Man (SM's chairman) is producing Super M so...it doesn't really call for any cool/fresh sounds imo. I sorta wish there was a musician from Asia that had the theatrics/dance/etc. to be like the Bowie/Prince (Imho I feel like Taemin for me fits into the camp, but its really a matter of fact of whether SM will allow that to occur esp. given how fickle/short shelf live idols/signers have there compared to the West when it comes to amazing talent ie. Beyonce/Madonna).

Date: 2019-08-18 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
korea definitely has its indie/experimental scene with lots of cool music but I'm not really familiar with if they get enough exposure and support from their labels and other industry people. In the States if you're an artist it seems like your music could end up on a popular TV show or you could perform at major heavily media covered music festivals, on radio shows, and even on some late shows you can see more experimental artists perform on TV, meanwhile on Korean music shows it's mostly pop/ ballads and sometimes some R&B or rock bands. the dramas and TV shows usually only feature pop or ballad songs, too. they don't really cover the diversity of music there is in the indie scene in Korea.

Korea has some older idols that still get to perform at their own tours and are respected like Shinhwa, TVXQ and BoA but you're right an idol's shelf life is usually shorter and they aren't held to the same high regard as performers and visionaries like someone like Beyonce or Madonna. Korea does have some of its own innovative figures that actually had an effect on pop culture but they aren't that well-known abroad like Seo Taji and the Boys (I think they started the trend of having multiple genres in one k-pop song, and were one of the first k-pop boy bands but wrote their own music), Lee Jong-Hyun was credited with bringing techno music to Korea and her performances are viewed as more experimental/ out there like performing a fan dance in over the top outfits, and then I would say Park Jiyoon is also important in how she's influenced girl groups' sexy concepts for many years to come. You always see a girl group member turning 20 covering "Coming of Age Ceremony"

Does Taemin get a lot of creative freedom? I feel like Bowie/Prince were considered innovative for their time adn that's why they have stood the test of time but I don't follow Taemin's career, so I don't know what he's done creatively. SM does seem mostly profit driven, so I feel like he would eventually have to leave SM to have more creative freedom like how the Wonder Girls were able to after they left JYP

Edited Date: 2019-08-18 06:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-08-18 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apathycollusion.livejournal.com
Yeah it has a cool Indie/underground scene, I like the Peppertones and a lot of great house music is being made there rn. In regards to the Kpop industry though, I don't really see much deviation minus a few people. I feel like for those artists, they made their way in Japan and have an established fanbase there but it sucks b/c some of these people paved the way.

Compared to most SM artists, it seems so judging by how Lee Soo Man really respects/admires his work ethic/such so he has more input in his creative vision. If I'm being honest, I want him to be like Sunmi and eventually leave SM, to pursue his solo career (But I think he renewed his contract for a few years ?) but eventually I think that'll be the best decision.

Date: 2019-08-19 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
idk about Shinhwa and if they have dedicated Japanese fans but it seems like TVXQ and BoA are more respected in Japan for their skills as performers and vocalists whereas in Korea they're more like senior idols with some catchy dance moves.

Seo Taji is still performing in big stadiums in Korea and is pretty well respected it seems but the other artists I mentioned don't seem to be holding any concerts currently.

Yeah even though he gets more creative freedom than others SM still has to have their stamp all over it to make sure people know it's part of the SM brand except for maybe their sub-label artists like Giantpink or Woolim artists. For him to completely have everything match his creative vision leaving SM would be best

Date: 2019-08-19 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apathycollusion.livejournal.com
IA with everything you said! P.S Always a pleasure talking with you about these things btw!

"For him to completely have everything match his creative vision leaving SM would be best." (Insert Prayers Emoji) His latest release was a different direction in the sense that it's more adult/mature so hopefully he'll continue in that direction.

Date: 2019-08-20 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
It's always a pleasure talking about this with you too! I find this topic really interesting. pop music can be more innovative and creative than people give it credit for.

i guess i have to check out more of taemin's stuff too lol

Date: 2019-08-18 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baekpedaling.livejournal.com
The Exo members sing very well in English. Don't Mess Up My Tempo had a lot of English and Baekhyun has sung little snippets of English songs before

Date: 2019-08-17 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apathycollusion.livejournal.com
Sighs...this whole ordeal and the formation of it is just meh.

What's interesting is that Capitol Records was the one to approach SM, and SM like the money pursuers that they're said yes to it. They're under contract for 1 year for P.R/other resources, so we know that this is all temporary.

Date: 2019-08-17 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
so you mean the group is only meant to promote for one year? also was it capitol records idea to put a bunch of members from different boybands together or was that SM's side?
Edited Date: 2019-08-17 10:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-08-17 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apathycollusion.livejournal.com
Image

Yes. Because Baekhyun is enlisting in 2020, so I suppose to usher in the group for the beginning. Not sure about that, SM has only come out and said they know that people have been mad/etc. but they hope that the fans will like the project.

Date: 2019-08-18 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
wow so exo-ls were right and SM really is using their senior artists to give a boost to NCT but it seems like they also want to promote SM ent in the US and create company stans. If it were just for the NCT American unit I think NCT 127's promotions would've been enough. I wonder who will be included in the NCT America Unit
Edited Date: 2019-08-18 01:49 am (UTC)

Date: 2019-08-18 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apathycollusion.livejournal.com
Yes since NCT hasn't been giving them the success in terms of SM's groups thus far. Dunno why they put 3 members who are going to enlist soon in the group, but on a fanbase front seems like SM thinks that some of them will go to NCT but judging by the fans reactions lmao.

SM does a great job building from the ground up their artists and for 2-3 years a good foundation to get a sizable solid fanbase. But after that not so much, and NCT is 4 years in their debut so SM really wants them to succeed after EXO. No offense but SM thinks dropping an act here like in Korea is going to work but you've to put in the time and that's why its difficult (SNSD- Interscope wanted them to put in 10 months for America but they balked). I rather they push a soloist, since I feel like the market is oversaturated rn.

Date: 2019-08-18 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
yeah they would definitely have to put in more time to have them be successful in the US more than 10 months and they would probably have to be stationed there but SM is not ready to accept that as a reality. a soloist could be interesting too. not a lot of male artists really dance right now, so they could fill that niche. i still think SM saw BTS' success and wanted to make as much money as Bighit does in the US even if Capitol Records approached them first. maybe Capitol records were also inspired by BTS

Date: 2019-08-18 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baekpedaling.livejournal.com
I'm gonna laugh if Taemin, Kai and Baekhyun are the most popular members in the US only for SM to switch them out with a group no one cares about

Date: 2019-08-18 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goshipgurl.livejournal.com
This will 99% flop in the US. I thought Capital was smarter than this.

Date: 2019-08-17 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizanka23.livejournal.com
why was the teaser so creepy to me? with that lack of music and b&w? lol. ngl this is one of the more exciting things coming out of SM in a while besides maybe WayV's debut. i'll be looking to all the fandom drama and ten performing more on stage even though he's been moved a million times from unit to unit

Date: 2019-08-17 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] modestgoddess79.livejournal.com
I just want to know what the song will sound like

Date: 2019-08-18 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sciencebottle.livejournal.com
I am here for SPERM er i mean super m

Honestly I don't have the energy to be up in arms about their existence, its something new and i am kind of here for it

Date: 2019-08-18 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goshipgurl.livejournal.com
This is a flop in the making and I feel so bad for the guys cause they obviously did not have a say in it.

Date: 2019-08-19 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gigabytexx.livejournal.com
wow am I the only one being positive in here? lmao
I think judging from the teaser alone the song might be hard bop and showing lots of coolness. Which I dig.

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