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Alternative titles:
10 minutes of Jackson being the biggest Jinyoung stan
Jackson making Jinyoung laugh [compilation part 73589]
Jinson flirting for 10 minutes straight
7 reasons why Park Jinyoung is the perfect man, according to Jackson Wang


Date: 2019-08-13 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonagi.livejournal.com
it kinda takes away time from us hearing more of the actual discussions they have with each other.

They seem to deliberately construct this dynamic tbh. They're obvs incredibly close but don't necessarily want to air the details and I can respect that. Not that they're being disingenuous, cuz I do think the affection is 100% real behind the mask of wang-gae-park-gae fanservice. I love hearing Jinyoung laugh so openly so I'm not complaining lol <3

Date: 2019-08-14 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonagi.livejournal.com
Oh that's true! Jackson's a master at deflecting compliments, which can be funny/cute but I hope in private he knows his self worth. That's why I appreciated the Glamour friendship interview, for once Jinyoung praised Jackson more than vice versa haha

Date: 2019-08-14 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shalottlady07.livejournal.com
I don’t know much about got7’s intra-group interactions, but I’ve watched a number of these and these two seem really really close. Like anything they would talk about would be so personal (like why Jackson really asks Jinyoung to the sauna - just needing someone there). So instead they just pass the time complimenting each other.
Which.... Jackson is laying the compliments on thick 😂😂

Date: 2019-08-15 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shalottlady07.livejournal.com
Yeah exactly. I’m kinda the same way. Surface with a most people, but when I find one of those people, it’s like “I’m sorry, but here’s my entire life story. We’ll be here till morning” haha
Seriously! Nothing to make you feel better than getting praised constantly for ten minutes. 😂

Date: 2019-08-15 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
Super important things I noticed: Jinyoung's got big feet. The size of men's feet is always so surprisingly proportionally large.

The editor is on team also embiggening Jinyoung. Does he need it though? Is he not very popular in Korea? I need one of the other members to come through with some dirty Jinyoung facts, I can't with making him a perfect, pure, prince constantly.

God, this nonsense that Jackson's signature rap style is a positive change; kill the 'rough' tone. Kill it! When will someone tell him it's bad? He's been coming to America a lot, come through some New Yorkers.

also, they're super cute, but I would enjoy more than just compliments. What happened to these two petty kings, why don't they share the petty anymore?

OP, what was the rap video from?

Date: 2019-08-15 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuujinchous.livejournal.com
i'm pretty sure jinyoung and jb are the two most popular members in korea!

i think jackson sounds good with a rough tone but only when it comes to got7 songs! idk if it's something that jype producers/got7 members have him do differently during recording but to me he definitely sounds different to the way he raps on his own solo songs! idk i can't enjoy him there as much as i do when i listen to his voice on got7 songs. but also, i feel like he has this idea in his head that somehow every credible rappers need a certain style or vocal tone in order to stand out from everyone else... which is why i'm worried that we're just continously gonna get songs of him growling lol :(

also, not op but the rap video is from here: click (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvsMDwpVIRs)

Date: 2019-08-15 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
I thought Jinyoung was super popular! So bring some petty back boys! He doesn't need to be inflated as some god prince.

Yeah, I get what Jackson is going for, I just think it's dumb, unnecessary, and frankly unpleasant to listen to. I think his natural tone is attractive, and his style can be distinctively his without needing to do what he does. I think his "I think I love you" is still awful, it's just buried in a song that isn't awful, unlike if it was one of his songs where it would shit throughout.

But Jackson is going to do Jackson, and people will like him enough to pretend, even to themselves, that his choice is a good one.

Also, thanks for the link!
Edited Date: 2019-08-15 07:02 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-08-15 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuujinchous.livejournal.com
but he is a god prince.............................

omg you're the first person i've come across who doesn't like his "i think i love you" in page! lmfao but i appreciate the honesty and yeah i agree, he can have his own style or whatever even without sounding like... that all the time. he has a good natural vocal tone! but also i guess he is just surrounded by people who don't see anything wrong with the way he raps. i wonder about the rest of got7 though... like i gotta say i'm under the impression that jinyoung isn't really a big fan of jackson's music! he's a big fan of jackson but idk whenever they talk about his music jinyoung always points out very very specific parts that he found good and then doesn't say anything else so i always wonder lmao......... anyways....

you're welcome!

Date: 2019-08-15 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
we're talking to different people! The entirety of his rap isn't shit the but actual phrase 'i think I love you' sounds so forced, you can hear the strain in his voice and diaphram. I find it overly aggressive in the song, but I know the song is popular.

I have that impression from Jinyoung, and from others, too! I appreciate that Jinyoung finds a way to be supportive and compliment where he can, at least publicly. I don't think any of the k-line really like it, yugyeom just tells him he's cool. It's one reason I think Jackson was so thrilled at Jinyoung's allure phrase, cause Jackson isn't dumb when it comes to reading people. I'm sure he knows they don't love his music. (I am going to exclude Mark and BamBam here, because I'm not convinced of their musical taste.)

Date: 2019-08-15 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuujinchous.livejournal.com
ahh i see what you mean about it sounding overly forced! i've listened to/followed along with a few of their keep spinning tour stops and honestly i'd have to go back to be completely sure but i do vaguely remember him switching it up a little and more like, singing it? instead of just kind of yelling? i usually think jackson has a problem with sounding good during live concerts because imo he tends to go flat and sing/shout everything at one vocal level (which sometimes doesn't really match the backing vocals) but he's been doing pretty well during their current tour so far i feel like! i'm definitely looking forward to seeing them live (hopefully) because being there in person and listening through a lq recording are really two very different things :o sorry i always digress so much lmao

yes, i feel that from the others too! i just didn't want to comment on it because i don't watch them as much as i do with jinyoung lmao and same! oh man mark and bam are really good producers but yeah somehow their taste in music remains questionable... i feel like bam is probably closest to jackson in terms of having similar tastes in music :o hmm but when they come together every once in a while it turns out amazingly well! like phoenix is a great song imo and also the one that jackson, bam and yugyeom made together? it's called "i love it" i think? too bad it's such a short song

Date: 2019-08-16 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
Wait, Mark is a good producer? I...missed that.

I think Mark has many talents, that's he's probably learning himself, but I didn't know production was one? I always pictures him as maybe the more business/tech side, less the music ear side.

Like, he seems like someone who didn't grow up working with his creative side, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have one.

I'll have to listen to Phoenix (again) and 'i love it'. Ta, friend, for the info.

Date: 2019-08-15 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
it totally does and I agree.

I just happen to be far more entertained by the petty theatrics. prince Jinyoung presentations I find kind of boring. That's where my complaints are coming from.

Date: 2019-08-15 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
hopefully they'll film some team competition type of things soon and the full petty will fly. I know Jinyoung seems to like MCing and being the judge, but I will hope for one of the three younger boys to do so full petty will be revealed by all the older members.

we just need a silly-dumb game with physical effort and somewhat arbitrary rules (like style points.) I am confidence chaotic petty will follow.

Date: 2019-08-15 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
oh my, I watched that vid ... let's say that Jinyoung has mastered having unique-ish rap style.

Date: 2019-08-15 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuujinchous.livejournal.com
i watched this yesterday and they're so cute! jackson showering jinyoung with compliments is very #me and i know jinyoung loves to preen at them but he also knows when to reign it in or when to turn it on jackson. i feel like theirs is very much a friendship of give and take. they truly do give off a feel of being best friends, in a way that jjp for example never do imo (even though they've said before that they consider each other best friends). lmao anyways not to digress

idk if i agree with jackson when he says that rappers nowadays have their own sound because i literally never recognize any rapper (on the contrary, a lot of them sound very much alike to me) but maybe that's because i'm old and out of touch with that sort of thing lmao :o i love jinyoung always drawing attention to the fact that he indeed used to be a rapper lmfao he's such a brat! baby you were like 18 years old back then... but also it's so funny that he was considered the "rapper" of jj project, like... it wasn't even so much rapping as it was just sing-talking or something.

love that video of jinyoung at the beach! jype please give me all the footage of that day i know you have it somewhere

i agree that jackson sounds really good (actually the best) on songs like page but somehow for me it never really translates well into jackson's own songs. idk there is fundamentally something about his music that i'm just not into i guess. that said yes oxygen is one of his better songs!

jackson saying that he speaks a lot of languages but that he isn't /fluent/ fluent at any of them... i can relate all too well lmfao

Date: 2019-08-15 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
I agree that they seem like bffs more so than JJP, but I am also getting the sense from these that JB really doesn't seem that close to anyone. Or maybe his closeness isn't an intimate feel, like Jackson is very good at seeming intimate and I think Jinyoung might be also. I'm in the camp that JJP wouldn't have been natural good friends, but after all this time they know, respect, and have learned to appreciate it each other, which is pretty special. And JB seems to vaguely lean on Jinyoung to help manage the group and so forth (maybe that was more before.) While, Jinyoung and Jackson might be more natural good friends.

Jinyoung preening will never not make me want to burst his bubble. He takes such blatant pleasure in the compliments! (I can't blame him, but still.)

Date: 2019-08-15 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuujinchous.livejournal.com
i definitely agree with your take on their friendships, except for that "jb doesn't seem that close to anyone" part! i think he is very close to all of them to varying degrees. what i said in my previous comment might be misread so i just want to clarify that it's not that i think jinyoung and jb aren't friends! just to me, especially compared to the dynamics of jackson and jinyoung, they don't give off that ~best friends feel. that said, i do think they are very close to each other! probably like one of the closest friends. like if we think about a time very far into the future, regardless of what happens to the group, i am absolutely certain that jjp (and also yugbam!!) will always remain friends! jjp in particular have gone through so much shit together (and because of each other) that i'm like... nothing that comes after this could even faze them lmao

jinyoung is a baby after all! imagine how pampered he must have been as the baby of his family, with two older sisters! and then as the baby of jjp (even though that is a whole other can of worms dkjghj) lmao i mean i can't blame jackson, he is so right when he says that there is pretty much nothing to critize jinyoung for! he is just a sweet, very down-to-earth kid and yes i say this as a jinyoung stan but i'm sure others will agree!!!!!!

Date: 2019-08-15 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
Yeah, I don't mean JB isn't close with them, maybe I mean JB is reserved? We know he is publicly, but I also have the impression he is privately too. More of a go inside guy. It makes it harder to see/feel his closeness with others. It's not a criticism, but as a fan it is more satisfying to see people like Jackson/Jinyoung together, who will show their closeness even while talking about nothing than JB who eats or sleeps. Those different traits, though, make it quicker/easier to form a close friends with someone like Jackson than JB (or Mark, probably.)

I do think JJB will probably always be in contact, and they could probably not speak for 9 months and pick up effortlessly. I just think they probably wouldn't have become friends without having spent the last decade together, but now they are, and it's not going away. We're on the same page!

This whole baby stuff ... I'm the baby too and babies aren't supposed to be pampered! They're supposed to be everyone's bitch who fetches and does the worst chores, and gets bossed around constantly!

Date: 2019-08-15 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuujinchous.livejournal.com
ahh okay, yes, i totally get it! and i agree!!! jb does seem pretty reserved in both public and private AND he's just a very inherently private person (i'll always mourn the fact that we're probably never gonna get to see his cats) so when all of it comes together, he gives off a feeling of maybe being a little distant or whatever. it's pretty amazing because i was watching jb and mark's got2day and at the end of it i was like... well, so what did they even talk about? they're so good at using a lot of words to say nothing at all lmao jb maybe because he's not too keen on revealing all that much about himself and mark i think just because he is that kind of person. the stark difference in energy levels between the got2days of jb/mark and jinyoung/jackson is kinda funny

fhdjsfhhks i know i'm the baby of my family too but jinyoung!!!!! he deserves to be babie and he deserves to be babied!!

Date: 2019-08-15 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
Mark & JB was all the editors inserting videos in to fool us into thinking something happened ....

Date: 2019-08-15 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
I agree. I think this is where my use of the verb seem above has more intended emphasis on the appearance angle of the word than it is being read. It's hard to properly shade nuance when I'm complaining online.

anyway, you, yuujinchous, and I aren't really saying anything different, mine just sounds more negative and complainy. But I'm also annoyed that JB is spending this entire series eating or sleepwalking rather than feeding the fans, so I am complaining a bit. Mark isn't saying much but at least he's giving love eyes to everyone.
Edited Date: 2019-08-15 09:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-08-16 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
I think your second paragraph is exactly the conundrum. I want them to be natural, but I'm also disappointed that it also may mean eating/sleeping. So I'm a bit salty about it.

There is the added layer of, of course, they're not really natural. But not a single episode has really said anything! I can't blame them for that, they deserve privacy, but I can be disappointed. And some episodes have done better a better job of giving giving us scraps than others.

And are trainee stories that special? Especially since they trained with so many people? They shouldn't sell any other idols out, but there is an in-between. Or stupid shit about x hates dishes. Or y always records fastest.

(Whatever, I've been discontent this month, it's probably not them.)

Date: 2019-08-15 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuujinchous.livejournal.com
lmao i just totally remembered that omona post during verse 2 era where ppl branded jb as homophobic because he said something about loving jinyoung "as a friend" but then it turned out he was talking about something that goes beyond normal friendship and even maybe romantic love lmao omg... that post was wild but my point is that yes i agree with you saying that he's not really the kind of person to say something like that without actually meaning it

which lmao always make me laugh at jb saying that he thinks his and jinyoung's tombstones will be next to each other... on the one hand it's such a huge statement like!!!! how do you just say that!!!! but on the other hand i feel like it was almost something that he simply said in passing, not expecting it to have such a huge impact. lmao i remember they/their staff kept bringing that up later on and he was clearly embarrassed by it and wanting to move on as quickly as possible ffhjakfhkslhf

also sorry to turn this jinson post into a semi-jjp post..........

Date: 2019-08-16 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
I've always taken the gravestone thing as wry/ self-deprecating. I like the awareness it shows. He shouldn't be embarrassed about it, it's a funny, and accurate, reflection on their life since they met. But, ya know, JB.

Watch them marry twins.

Date: 2019-08-15 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuujinchous.livejournal.com
yes like the true jinyoung stan i am i ate all of that content up when it was released lmao 😭 but it's never a bad idea to revisit them so thank you for linking!!!

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