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A South Korea group uses the Internet and other means to track foreign teachers, in an effort to ferret out illegal or unsavory behavior. The teachers say they're victims of stalkers and rumors.


Yie Eun-woong, volunteer manager of the Seoul-based Anti-English Spectrum, investigates complaints from parents about foreign teachers. Angry teachers groups call him an instigator and a stalker.
(John M. Glionna / Los Angeles Times / January 20, 2010)

Seoul - Sometimes, in his off hours, Yie Eun-woong does a bit of investigative work.

He uses the Internet and other means to track personal data and home addresses of foreign English teachers across South Korea.

Then he follows them, often for weeks at a time, staking out their apartments, taking notes on their contacts and habits.

He wants to know whether they're doing drugs or molesting children.

Yie, a slender 40-year-old who owns a temporary employment agency, says he is only attempting to weed out troublemakers who have no business teaching students in South Korea, or anywhere else.

The volunteer manager of a controversial group known as the Anti-English Spectrum, Yie investigates complaints by South Korean parents, often teaming up with authorities, and turns over information from his efforts for possible prosecution.

Outraged teachers groups call Yie an instigator and a stalker.

Yie waves off the criticism. "It's not stalking, it's following," he said. "There's no law against that."

Since its founding in 2005, critics say, Yie's group has waged an invective-filled nationalistic campaign against the 20,000 foreign-born English teachers in South Korea.

On their website and through fliers, members have spread rumors of a foreign English teacher crime wave. They have alleged that some teachers are knowingly spreading AIDS, speculation that has been reported in the Korean press.

Teacher activists acknowledge that a few foreign English instructors are arrested each year in South Korea -- cases mostly involving the use of marijuana -- but they insist that the rate of such incidents is far lower than for the Korean population itself.

"Why are they following teachers? That's a job for the police," said Dann Gaymer, a spokesman for the Assn. for Teachers of English in Korea. "What this group is up to is something called vigilantism, and I don't like the sound of that."

In November, the president of the teachers group received anonymous e-mails threatening his life and accusing him of committing sex crimes.

"I have organized the KEK (Kill White in Korea)," one e-mail read in part. "We will start to kill and hit [foreigners] from this Christmas. Don't make a fuss. . . . Just get out."

Yie acknowledges that he has been questioned by investigators but denies any involvement in the threats of violence.

"To be honest," he said, "a lot of our group members believe the teachers made this all up."

The debate over foreign English teachers is symbolic of a social shift taking place in a nation that has long prided itself on its racial purity and singular culture, South Korean analysts say.

In less than a decade, the number of foreigners living in South Korea, with a population of nearly 49 million, has doubled to 1.2 million, many of them migrant workers from other Asian nations.

Also included are the foreign English teachers, most from the United States, drawn here by compensation packages that may include as much as $2,500 a month plus free rent and a round-trip ticket to teach a Korean population obsessed with learning from native speakers.

Yie's efforts have the support of some educators who say many foreign teachers lack the skills to run a classroom.

"This has nothing to do with race. It is all about teaching," said Kim Young-Lan, a sociology professor at Sookmyung Women's University in Seoul.

The government has tried to stem what it sees as a troubling number of racist incidents. A 31-year-old man was charged last year for a verbal outburst against an Indian man and a Korean woman traveling together on a city bus in Seoul.

But some teachers from abroad say Korean laws regarding their status remain discriminatory. Foreign English teachers must undergo HIV tests and criminal and academic checks that are not required of Koreans doing the same work, they say.

Yie says he has nothing against foreigners. Growing up near the city of Osan, he often rode with his taxi driver father and encountered foreigners who served at the U.S. military base there. "I learned to pick out the good guys from the bad guys," he says

In 2005, by then living in Seoul, he joined the fledgling activist group after seeing an upsetting posting on a website: claims by foreign teachers that they had slept with Korean students.

Yie, who is single and has no children, volunteered to help organize an effort to rein in such behavior.

"People were angry; most of them were parents with kids," he said. "We all got together online and traded information."

Gaymer says he doubts that such a posting ever existed. Instead, he says, Koreans were angry about photos posted on a job website showing foreigners dancing with scantily clad Korean women.

"They were consenting adults at a party with foreign men," he said. "They weren't doing anything bad or illegal."

Yie's group, Gaymer says, has used the incident as a rallying call. "They're posting online pictures of teachers' apartments and whipping each other into a nationalist frenzy, creating a hysteria against all English teachers, troublemakers or not," he said.

Yie, who says his group is managed by half a dozen key figures and has 300 other members, created a system for parents and others to report bad teachers. The group says it has contributed to several arrests, including the recent bust of several foreign instructors for gambling and marijuana possession.

"I'm being called a racist who judges the entire group by the mistakes of the few," Yie said. "I'm trying to look at these teachers with an open mind."

Source: Los Angeles Times

D: Yikes.
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Date: 2010-02-01 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -ochre.livejournal.com
dude.........

Re: IDEK

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-_-

Date: 2010-02-01 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrskwonjiyong.livejournal.com
"He wants to know whether they're doing drugs or molesting children."
seriously?

Re: -_-

Date: 2010-02-01 05:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-02-01 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doraichan.livejournal.com
MOSS <3333

Date: 2010-02-01 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyurella.livejournal.com
ehhhhhhh...........

Date: 2010-02-02 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pittari.livejournal.com
crazy, right?

Date: 2010-02-01 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thanksforthmmrs.livejournal.com
With English as the universal language, I think it's really stupid for them to form this group. Won't help Korea much too....

Date: 2010-02-01 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginger-star.livejournal.com
"It's not stalking, it's following," he said. "There's no law against that."

Are you fucking kidding me?

WTF guys, WTF.... Desire to go to Korea to teach English...slowly growing less... -_-

Date: 2010-02-01 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangyeonhaji.livejournal.com
THIS. omg. this freaks me out SO bad.

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hey-insomnia.livejournal.com
lolwut. O_O

Date: 2010-02-01 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onthethruway01.livejournal.com
And what about the article posted a few months back about Korean men committing violence against white women teaching English? I'm slowing losing my love for Korea. Don't do this people...seriously.

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunts.livejournal.com
They have alleged that some teachers are knowingly spreading AIDS

Image

Date: 2010-02-01 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] discodarcy.livejournal.com
Its bad but I lol'd at that bit

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuukihitohira.livejournal.com
are you serious D:

Date: 2010-02-01 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] froggster.livejournal.com
......... DDDD:
just... DDDDDDDD:

"What this group is up to is something called vigilantism, and I don't like the sound of that."
I couldn't help but think of batman and lol

Date: 2010-02-02 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoyah.livejournal.com
lol i thought of batman, too. *batman geek*

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cruel-disorder.livejournal.com
That's some scary shit D: I was just talking to a friend today about teaching overseas in South Korea... I wonder how widespread this group is.

Date: 2010-02-01 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anoukinparis.livejournal.com
this D: it's my dream to teach english in either south korea or japan, but this just makes me all kinds of nervous

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyramidsonmars.livejournal.com
Seriously, bro?

Date: 2010-02-01 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -ochre.livejournal.com
I understand why the Korean guy thinks he's right? And I understand why there's an outrage on the foreigners' part? It's very extreme behaviour and I guess the Korean dude is just worried about the futures of the next generation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, those suspicions of foreigners molesting kids and taking drugs cannot have come out of thin air... It perhaps it's an exaggeration of reports or whatever. And this dude is just mad paranoid.

And that ~KEK~ thing could have been a troll. Who knows? It's ~anon~. If there can be trolls on the English speaking realm of the internets, I'm pretty sure the trolls on the Korean speaking realms would be 10x more powerful
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Date: 2010-02-01 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shanny-w.livejournal.com
Sometimes shit like this does come out of thin air when one group hates another group. Anything to try and get them out...

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misters.livejournal.com
because only foreigners do drugs or molest children.

Date: 2010-02-01 06:05 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] discodarcy.livejournal.com
oic so compulsive following for weeks is not stalking

...ofc

Date: 2010-02-01 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mandyyy.livejournal.com
No wonder the fangirls are so good at it. Maybe it's a hereditary trait.

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shanny-w.livejournal.com
"It's not stalking, it's following," he said. "There's no law against that."

That's the same thing. If you follow someone and they don't know or don't want you to that's stalking. It's an invasion of privacy.

KEK? So they will leave the english teachers of other races alone? If the teachers did sleep with students they were probably adult students... the parents should get out of their kids business if that's the case.

Date: 2010-02-01 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaded-skys.livejournal.com
It's still not right to sleep with a student, or to have any non-platonic relations with a student.

And now I'm freaked for the whole of my stay here. Awesome. Awesome.

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tchouwuu.livejournal.com
That's scary.

Date: 2010-02-01 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowfax.livejournal.com
Yie waves off the criticism. "It's not stalking, it's following,"

He uses the Internet and other means to track personal data and home addresses of foreign English teachers across South Korea.

Then he follows them, often for weeks at a time, staking out their apartments, taking notes on their contacts and habits.


oh ok.

Date: 2010-02-01 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cindel.livejournal.com
O_O at the source!

This is nothing new. Anti-English Spectrum have been going after English teachers for years and right now it's just getting a lot more attention due to stalking and harassment online.

Date: 2010-02-01 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vanilla-09.livejournal.com
I mean, it's important to never be too comfortable with people because you never know but man Mr. Yie, a bit loony maybe?! :/

Date: 2010-02-01 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvey.livejournal.com
on one hand: we are nationalists, foreigners get out we don't want your english

on the other hand: we are hallyu, please enjoy our movies, music, culture with open arms.

can't have it both ways.

Date: 2010-02-01 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curls975.livejournal.com
pretty much this for me

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
SO CREEPY. That guy really needs to get his head checked.

Date: 2010-02-01 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] -ochre.livejournal.com
It's not even him. It's a whole bunch of people. The authorities are approving this. What the hale.
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Date: 2010-02-01 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brailleun.livejournal.com
Oh.

What did I just read? That is just so...sad. I don't have any other word for it. I don't doubt that there are English teachers that do illegal things, but going against those who aren't suspicious in any way is plain wrong.

And yes, it's called stalking, not following. You're not from police, so I don't think you have rights to follow anybody. If you think they're doing something illegal, you report it to police. :|

I knew that Korea isn't the most open country in the world, but I wished they would've started to be more accepting about westerns in their country.

Okay I wish I had something more deep to contribute in this topic, but my lack of English skills fail me again :|.

Date: 2010-02-01 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvey.livejournal.com
you're english skills are just fine bb

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Date: 2010-02-01 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ishougen.livejournal.com
Yie waves off the criticism. "It's not stalking, it's following," he said. "There's no law against that." umwut

I've been thinking of going to Korea to teach English, but this is kind of... :/

Date: 2010-02-01 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaded-skys.livejournal.com
Don't be distressed just because of this. I work here and no one's been following me. (I also have a good school, so maybe that's part of it? idek.)
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