Toilet Y*****n finally remembers that he used drugs, admits to some allegations

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

Park Toilet has now admitted to using drugs.

According to the Narcotics Unit of the Gyeonggi Nambu Provincial Police Agency, the singer admitted to most of the charges regarding drug use during his questioning on the morning of April 29.

The police shared that he stated, “I was scared of giving up on myself,” and added, “I think I have to admit what I have to and apologize for what I have to.”

Park Yoochun was arrested on April 26 for the suspicion of purchasing 1.5 grams of Philopon with his former girlfriend Hwang Ha Na on three occasions between February and March of 2019 and injecting the drugs five times.

sources: soompi, naver

Comments

[xoxkenzxox.livejournal.com]

yeah. He only started doing drugs this year. Ok.

[infj23.livejournal.com]

I really would love to know his thought process throughout this makjang subplot. Was all this done to convince enough fan girls to save his career after stepping out of the spotlight for 3-4 years? Did he really think he'd not get caught? Has he been off meth for a few days so now he can think more clearly?

I'm also feeling all sorts of ways that THIS is what he will go down for. The arc of this universe is just too damn long.

[krissasaur]

While he is garbage..... TBH... I am not here for shitting on people addicted to drugs..... Specially Meth which is horribly addictive and life ruining? But anyway, I am not even talking about Yoochun here really, but the whole criminalizing addicts for buying and using drugs is not a good look to me. It just makes me sad.

Was he ever selling it to other people? Because that is a different issue to me.

[nana-the-dwarf.livejournal.com]

While I agree with your comment, this one is a drug addicted rapist, so he can go flush himself down a toilet.

[krissasaur]

I literally called him garbage and then said that I wasn't even specifically talking about Yoochun. If I didn't make it clear, I was trying to say that I feel no sympathy for him or what he is going through. What bothers me that criminalizing someone for an addiction they probably can't even control is apparently worse than rape in the eyes of the Korean judicial system.

[sciencebottle.livejournal.com]

You make a great acknlowedgement. I haven't seen it much on here, but I'm sure there are a lot of comments out on the web on this issue that have considered his drug using to be the deplorable disgusting issue, and not the fact that he's a...rapist.

[krissasaur]

That was mostly the point I was trying to make but my whole first comment was worded so poorly. The priorities really upset me. I mean, I do personally believe that addicts should not be jailed unless they are dealing, but the fact that drug use seems to be a much bigger deal that rape is so ????? to me.

[thomaswilmoore.livejournal.com]

mte

[miyozari.livejournal.com]

I don't want to get in a debate about criminalising drugs, but I'd just like to point out that drugs in certain parts of Asia are heavily connected to colonialism (the most famous example being opium in China). It's not black and white. Often the comments here (and ONTD) come across as very western-centric.

[rainstormraider.livejournal.com]

This.
It’s more nuanced than let’s all do weed!

[evilcoc0nut.livejournal.com]

THIS

[rockerista03.livejournal.com]

Exactly this.

[kimbafierce.livejournal.com]

Sue me if you will, but I have zero sympathy for drug addicts. I feel for their loved ones who have to deal with their shit, but not the druggies. I know most of them have reasons to turn to drugs, but literally everyone knows that drugs will make your struggle thousand times worse, and still they choose to walk that path,

[evilcoc0nut.livejournal.com]

I tend to agree. Even though the drugs themselves rewire the brain and make it very hard to stop without help, and some can do this appallingly quickly, the fact remains that they still decided to use it the first time, despite the further facts that literally everyone knows the truth about drugs these days. Google is free. Not really sparing a lot of boohoo for ppl deciding to be dumb.

[kimbafierce.livejournal.com]

This is exactly the point I want to make. I know it's damn hard to cut drugs once you start, which is why you should not start at all.

[krissasaur]

One of my best friends got into a car accident when she was 22 years old, killing her infant son, and it was a miracle she survived. She was prescribed Oxycontin, and battled with an addiction to the drug for the next 8 years, until she accidentally over dosed and died. She was a good person. It isn't black and white, and it isn't always as simple as "just stopping." She knew it was bad, and she was ashamed of herself, but addiction is a vile beast.

I also have a friend who has been an alcoholic for the past 12 years, and I used to be mad at him for it, but I came to understand that it really is out of his control sometimes. It just takes over him, and he hates himself for it. He has been clean and aware of his problem for about 3 years now, but every few months he will call or message me crying, telling me he fucked up, had a drink, and then it got out of hand. Also in his case, it took a lot of learning for him to understand that just because he fucked up doesn't mean he should just give up and spiral back into alcoholism. Just start counting the days since the last drink again. Etc. Its a process that never ends. He will never not want a drink. This will be a lifetime struggle for him.

We all know that meth, and other hard drugs are bad, but I don't think people who try drugs think they will end up an addicted mess. Not to mention, you are usually introduced to drugs by friends, or people who seem "normal" on the drugs, which then make you think the threat isn't as bad as the mainstream makes it out to be. Movies and musicians that idolize drug use don't help either. A lot of people also end up trying drugs for the first time when they are young and peer pressure is a big factor. By the time you realize you are addicted, it's too late and has a hold on you. Yea, you can call them stupid for trying the drugs in the first place, but I don't think it's right to hold that over their head when they are struggling and can't find the strength to get better. I am pretty sure most addicts would chose to walk a path of never having started drugs in the first place if they could.

[kimbafierce.livejournal.com]

Getting addicted to prescribed drugs is a whole different topic, and my opinion above is specifically about addicts who choose this life. I hope your friend is in a better place now.

I'm not holding anything above anyone's head or trying to shit on people for being addicts, I will never tell someone who's addicted to anything "you brought this on yourself". I'd hope for their sake that they're able to get out of the cycle, but a lot of addicts don't even want to change.

If you choose to 'try' drugs, you have no excuse. In this day and age all you have to do is type the name of the drug you want to 'try' on Google or YouTube and you'll see all kind of horrible things. If you want to disregard that and still try drugs then it's on you.

I respect your opinion.and respect how you explained yourself without being rude, but I also see that we have different ife experiences with drugs, and that makes our opinions polar opposite.

[aures.livejournal.com]

addictions aren't as black and white as they look like, it's a true form of a disease, a mental disease but a disease you can often not see with the eye is still a horrible disease
not alcohol or drugs, but i have suffered from an eating disorder and an exercise addiction for many years and even though i wanted to, i couldn't "just stop", for some reason my mind just NEEDED it, i could literally THINK that 'I don't want to do it" but for some reason my body just started moving or whatever beyond my control and it's the same with alcohol, drugs and gambling addiction, it's not always as simple, it's not always a decision
i know that my mind is very sensitive to addiction, so i stay clear of everything that can cause addiction so i will never have to face anything like this again, but it's not that black/white
please look at these people with kinder/milder eyes, some really don't want it, either and they do not ALWAYS have a decision (anymore)

edit; i'm not defending toilet here btw or anyone but myself for knowing what it's like to have an addiction
im not saying drugs or whatever is right or that it's okay because it's not - but i just hope you can look at addicts with open and kinder eyes

[kimbafierce.livejournal.com]

Maybe I came off harsher than I intended to, cuz I do feel sorry for them, and honestly I wouldn't wish that kind of life on anyone. But like I said to the op, I think one's personal background and dealings with addicts shape their views differently.

I won't pretend like I know a lot about eating disorder (and I hope you're in a better place now) but I think it's different in the way that you don't know you've falling into it until you're in deep. But with drugs the first thing we learn about them is that they're addictive, so staying away is best for us. But some people choose to disregard that and 'try' them anyway for whatever reason, and usually - and after they fall in a deep whole of addiction, their loved ones are the ones who suffer most.

I guess its just pisses me off when I see someone who lived a good life throw it all away just so they'd enjoy a party better, or try something different.

[aures.livejournal.com]

yes, i can absolutely see your point and i respect that! though it's not always that people want to have a better party life, i used to work in health care and while some where definitely in it for the better party life, there were also a lot of addicts who did it simply to forget/escape their every day life and got addicted and i can honestly - honestly - understand that, without going into too much details, recently i noticed myself thinking about getting some wine to drink before bed so i can finally sleep a bit etc. and i mean, i won't do it because i stay clear of everything that can cause addiction, but i can understand how it starts like that, like oh i'll try it just once or for a while and then it gets out of hand and can sympathize with that

and i agree with you about the ED and the exercise addiction, i fell in deeper and deeper and i really didn't know what i was doing at first, it was years ago and i'm definitely in a better place, when things happen there are definitely the triggers, but over time i have learned to not give in, i know i will always have to be mindful of it and when i notice myself dong certain things i try to correct myself asap - years of therapy really did help

but yes, it also is such a shame for the life they could've had, especially when they are just in it for the better party or just for their "friends" or whatever, those kind of people really called it upon themselves and that's so frustrating indeed

[kimbafierce.livejournal.com]

I really appreciate your post, it put some things in a different prescriptive, and I welcome it.

Idrk what to say, cuz I can't even think about the prospect of having to mentor my behavior so as not to fall into a destructive pattern. But I also kinda wish that this was the only reason people used drugs.. cuz this way it at least make since to me. It's a disease and you have no control over it. But that's rarely the case, and when I see the other side of it, where people use just for the heck of it, it fills me with rage more than anything.

I'm glad you're in a better place now, and I genuinely hope you get to an even better one and stay there

[aures.livejournal.com]

yes i really appreciate our talks/differences as well, it's good to see other perspectives from time to time, so you won't get stuck in your own pattern and stop and think about things for a bit

hm yes you really hit the nail on the head, the whole self destructive pattern is rooted so deeply for me that usually when i control pattern A it somehow manifests in pattern B or C, often without realizing until it's late - i'm trying so hard but i can't seem to get rid of it no matter how much i work on it, so i constantly have to be aware of what i do and the decisions i make
it kinda makes me sound like a sad loser, doesn't it? i'm not haha

i absolutely agree with you, if people do it out of the way i said i can "relate" (i mean not actually but idea), but just for the partying yeah that's so bad and i can understand it fills you with a lot of anger and frustration, it's always so unfortunate how much things like drugs, alcohol and such can ruin :( it's such a sad thing

thank you <3 even though we tend to disagree from time to time, i do really appreciate and respect our conversations and i find myself thinking about them during the day when we comment and enjoy that

[kimbafierce.livejournal.com]

it kinda makes me sound like a sad loser, doesn't it?
Not even a little. It's actually really fucking admirable to see someone so intended to become better.

The worst part is that both don't stop at ruining the life of their user, but ruin the lives of those around him/her as well.. it's just so selfish, and most of the time, so avoidable. But human beings aren't that if they aren't selfish.

Me too! It's nice to have a respectful conversation with someone. In a kpop community of all places XD

[klauses.livejournal.com]

christ almighty.

[hallyujah.livejournal.com]

I agree completely. It's a different matter when it comes to manufacturing, trafficking (especially to minors), importing/exporting etc. but criminalizing for personal use is WRONG. ALWAYS. Decriminalizing like in Portugal is proven to be the superior approach and there's a proper understanding that it's a public health issue, not a criminal one.

[juunanagou18.livejournal.com]

The begrudging amount of respect I would have had for him if he had been like, "Yes, I did take drugs." from the very beginning and dealt with his punishment (I don't agree with jail for addicts -- and those legs scream addict -- but I don't live in SK; he does) would have been minuscule, but it would have been there.

He's still a pos, but now he's upgraded to being a dumb pos. The admittance is probably for a plea deal that we aren't privy to, yet.

[radowan.livejournal.com]

“I was scared of giving up on myself,” and added, “I think I have to admit what I have to and apologize for what I have to.”

scared of giving up on yourself??? hold a fucking sec??? great to see his only concern remains himself, and not the who-knows-how-many women he's hurt.

this is the shittiest confession ever, but imma wait for seungri to somehow find the rock bottom and crawl under it.

[evilcoc0nut.livejournal.com]

I wonder how dog shelter and lab tech oppologists are feeling rn.

[kenziekinz09.livejournal.com]

On Twitter I saw people writing letters to the human rights watch🙄🙄🙄 Of course he still has people supporting him. You can’t save everyone

[evilcoc0nut.livejournal.com]

Gag. I saw that too and I was like...what about human rights watch for the women he raped? This is just karma.

[daynr.livejournal.com]

what exactly is supposed to be the human rights violation he is suffering?

[staaan.livejournal.com]

wouldn't be surprised if they thought he confessed after being tortured or some shit

[evilcoc0nut.livejournal.com]

Well now they think he was tortured into confessing, but before it was something like he was being falsely accused and wrongfully detained lmao

[belintuchiha.livejournal.com]

A lot of them are saying Hana’s family threatened him. Of course they are putting all the blame to the woman.

[kenziekinz09.livejournal.com]

They think he’s being used to cover for other crimes

[sciencebottle.livejournal.com]

it's one thing to go through a struggle with drugs. It's horrifying and it sucks. It's another thing to do shitty things like oh you know, raping people????????

This makes me even angrier. It makes me angry that the drug use has been the tipping point and not the sexual assault. I'm so angry.

[hallyujah.livejournal.com]

Yup, that's how I feel exactly. When someone faces more consequences for likely suffering from the disease of addiction than they do for ACTUAL RAPE. It's insane

[kimbafierce.livejournal.com]

He's embarrassing his fans; every time they come up with a new excuse new things surface, and now he's admitting using...

[miyozari.livejournal.com]

What about that press conference? This dumbass really thought the police wouldn't knock on his door and run tests.

[rainstormraider.livejournal.com]

This is why you finish high school. He really thought shaving and waxing and bleaching would spare him. Incompetent moron.

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

I just checked and he did finish high school? He even graduated from university?

[belintuchiha.livejournal.com]

Must have paid for that diploma! Lmao jk but education sadly doesn’t always actually educate people on basic needs.

[rainstormraider.livejournal.com]

From my Cassie days I remember he dropped out and then went back.

[dior-chic.livejournal.com]

I know nothing of his work, all I know about him is how awful he is.

Also since I don’t know much about him as an idol when he was younger, but seeing him now - fucking yikes.

[sweetestbliss1.livejournal.com]

YIKES. I bet Changmin and Yunho (and SM) are like "whewwwwwwwwww" good thing he left DBSK and we're not associated with him anymore.

Wonder what Jaejoong and Junsu are thinking....