Jinyoung really committing to not moving a single muscle at the back every time he doesn't have to sing, I see you Jinyoung.jpeg
I feel like JY and YG are gonna struggle vocally in the live stages for this and never really sound like in the studio version. Also I want the stylists to stop giving Jinyoung blazers and just let him be in a flowy lace shirt for a change.
idk what it is about yugyeom with miracle in particular because when people usually complain about how he's too whiny or unstable i tend to defend him but i just can't seem to do that here lmao this is legit my first time agreeing with people who say that he should have stayed being a rapper instead of becoming somewhat of a vocal
jinyoung's outfits these past two days have been sooo pretty though!!! i love love love it but yeah i think something like bam's shirt today would have looked nice on him as well :>
I think Yugyeom's range isn't that big and he still has a tendency to go off-key pretty easily, which I think he can unlearn and be better but yeah this song isn't doing him any favors :/ even Jinyoung isn't in his comfort zone it seems like...
HE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THE IG HANDLE AND JUST FOUND THE PIC OF GOOGLE ASDFGHJ why is anyone surprised let the old man live
OP also asked Jinyoung where did he get his profile pic from? googling?ㅋㅋㅋ and Jinyoung was so cute! He say that he was like 'Oh? This picture looks okay? and just saved the pic' ㅋㅋㅋ pic.twitter.com/k3ohIapSml (https://t.co/k3ohIapSml)
— 922%❣ (@922percent) 7. joulukuuta 2018 (https://twitter.com/922percent/status/1071054224547442688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
op asked Jinyoung how he came up with his new IG username and he said "i really thought deeply about it! but people were telling me it's too long and i'm embarrassed" 🤣🤣 🐥 it sounds more like a fanmade account than actual fan accounts 🍑 i put a lot of thought into it.. ㅍㅅㅠ pic.twitter.com/NKt59z6PV7 (https://t.co/NKt59z6PV7)
— moumantai 🍞 (@0922x0917) 7. joulukuuta 2018 (https://twitter.com/0922x0917/status/1071140694415224832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
be able to see?! I was like 'Ah it looks like people will be able to see (everything) though~~~' And at the end everything was exposed... I was like 'What are you doing? Isn't this a scam ㅍㅅㅍ!!
— 922%❣ (@922percent) 7. joulukuuta 2018 (https://twitter.com/922percent/status/1071065093813616640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
yep, definitely agree about his range! something i noticed is that sometimes he attempts like vocal runs or adlibs or whatever you call them and they don't always sound as good as he probably intends them to! i know there is one song in particular where he added his own adlibs in the past but i honestly can't recall which song that was anymore! i just remember that it was on the setlist of their eyes on you tour as well because i remember that he tried that adlib at one of their concerts that i attended and his attempt made me cringe lkdsfjhgkjglhg i don't wnna be mean or anything but yeah, like you said, he tends to go off-key a lot. :/ he has so much more room to improve!
i'm kinda thinking that it's unfortunate how little youngjae gets to sing in miracle because he has been very very stable at these music show performances so far!! and yes you might be right about jinyoung, i'm just not really seeing/hearing it (yet) because i'm blinded by my bias towards him but i'll make sure to listen closer and pay more attention next time!! :^)
lmfao yes!! jinyoung and his ig is such... a saga!! it's freaking me out how he knows /everything/ that fans say!! i mean yes he is known for that but still, i get surprised every time! it's so precious how much thought and effort he seems to have put into choosing his ig handle and display pic!! i can totally imagine him sitting there and googling his own name hahahah
honestly i think jinyoung at least knew A LITTLE that he was gonna expose more than what he exposed last time!! :') i love how fans ask all the important questions at fansigns lsfkjfgjg good job everyone
i think got7 themselves do part assignments really well in their own songs but yeah, youngjae gets shafted a lot especially when people from outside are involved. it's really a shame! youngjae sounds wonderful in miracle
hmmm i'd have to go back and listen again but yeah you might be right!! now that i think about it, i might have been talking about thank you when i said that his adlibs go wrong sometimes hahah :>
Loool I'm really blinded by my bias as well but I've seen people... discussing about JY's vocals this promo round and I DO hear where his "weak areas" are, which I'm been aware of before.
I mean I acknowledge Youngjae is a way better singer what comes to technique and range, but there's just things I love about JY (his tone, his expressions when he sings plus literally everything else about his persona asdfg) that make him my favorite, BUT ia they should've utilized Youngjae more.
I saw this part distribution chart of Miracle and ngl I'm a little ??? at the choices that were made...
Line distribution % in Miracle 😳 pic.twitter.com/7lsuMVv89V (https://t.co/7lsuMVv89V)
— Yugyeom Updates (@yugyeomcontent) 3. joulukuuta 2018 (https://twitter.com/yugyeomcontent/status/1069551973018595329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
oh wow i'm surprised at the line distribution! it's kinda sad that yugyeom and jinyoung both got equal/more parts than jb and youngjae who are supposedly their official vocal line! next comeback i hope we can go back to a title track produced by defsoul because he does this much much better lmao
same about jinyoung's voice! it's funny because it was youngjae's voice that pulled me into got7 but over time, i've come to enjoy jinyoung's voice so much more.
Maybe I was one of the ones that were a bit harsh on Yugyeom, but its just that he doesn't seem to sing with any support. LIke all the sound is coming from his throat which is why i think his sound comes off as nasally or whiny. I think it's something that you have to consciously practice until it's second nature.
ah i wasn't aiming that tweet at anyone in particular, sorry if it came across like that! and yes, the way you describe his singing "technique" sounds very accurate to me, it really feels like he's mostly singing from his throat.
i'm not very versed in that but speaking of singing techniques. i sometimes hear ppl say that jinyoung uses that classic jype technique of half-sound half-air or whatever it's called and idk if it's true but a lot of times, i do hear him singing the way i /think/ that technique is supposed to sound like and idk, i feel like it works to his disadvantage sometimes!! like he gets breathy at moments where i feel like he /shouldn't/ because it makes him sound kinda breathless and it would sound better if he went all out with his voice. i think he uses that technique in "my youth", doesn't he? and for that song imo it fits but there are other songs (that i can't think of right now lsdfglfh) where i wish he didn't :o idk
I think I still don't quite understand what the half-sound half-air technique is supposed to be (just the name of it doesn't sound very good to me tbh lol). Having one technique you teach multiple different singers instead of catering to their voice and its strengths just sounds so counterproductive to me! (this is not just about JYPE but YG I feel like has his weird techniques he forces on his singers as well)
I feel like on the scale of Youngjae - Jinyoung - Yugyeom, Youngjae has the most stable vocals with the best support and Yugyeom is just... well, on the other end of the scale lmao and Jinyoung is somewhere in the middle. He sounds mostly pretty stable and is a reliable vocalist in their songs most of the time but then sometimes he sounds like he forces the notes out with a harsh finish(?), like he's not a singer that "belts" and his voice sounds like it's about to give in lol (or so it sounds to me, idk what the right terminology is), he's more reliable in his falsettos when it comes to high notes.
But idk is this a technique that's been taught him and would he be able to relax his voice if taught differently, idk! At least he seems to be constantly improving his vocals which is enjoyable for a fan to hear :3
i'm not really sure either which is why i'm trying to be as vague as possible about it, hoping that maybe someone who does have knowledge about this stuff will come and tell us! :') ah you're right, i don't really listen to yg artists (except for lee hi and akmu and thankfully, both have retained their own vocal tone) but rose from blackpink definitely comes to mind whenever i think of that! i'm almost grateful to sm in that regard because they more or less allow their voalists to train and improve in their own ways but again, i can only speak from my experience with exo! their vocal line has come such a long way since debut it's amazing
oooh i definitely agree with your assessment! if yugyeom is part of got7's vocal line then he is for sure the weakest link, i honestly don't think anyone is gonna disagree with that? right? lmfao anyway yes something i noticed about jinyoung's singing sometimes is that he forces out notes and rather than singing, he starts to almost yell i feel like. i can think of a few other kpop idols who do this but yeah imo jinyoung definitely needs to watch out for that because forcing it all out can lead to unstability really easily i think! like he loses control over his voice then. but like you said, he is constantly improving!! and you can really hear that improvement every time they make another comeback heheh :>
I agree, I wouldn't call Jinyoung a power vocalist, but he does have a fairly stable voice compared to Yugyeom. And I love that its got such a warm color. I was living for it during their Tomorrow, Today era and how it contrasted with JB's brighter, sometimes harsher vocals.
I wouldn't have known it was him on King of Masked singer. Not until close to the end when he had to sing some higher notes that I finally recognized his voice. He's come a long way.
ah no worries! I just know I had written a rant on their vocals on their Music Bank performance and like 80% of it was me going off on poor Yugyeom.
I'm also definitely blinded by bias. Jaebum is not the best vocalist by any means and I also don't usually like the color of his voice in other singers (he tends to this really bright sound).
And I wish I knew more to comment on that half sound half air technique. There is a KPop vocal analysis blog but they've only done JB and Youngjae in this group. :/ Jinoyoung sounded amazing when he was on masked singer, and he didn't sound breathy there at least not that I remember. It may have been that he was able to sing in his range? Which is lower than most of Got7's songs I think...
They all look good, but I really can't get into this song. I think it's because Yugyeom has always been my least favorite vocal in GOT7 (nothing personal, just a preference) and he has the most lines in this out of everyone. And since Youngjae's my fave, I'm kinda salty that he only barely has more lines than the rap line. Like, why release a ballad song if you're not going to use one of your main vocalists to their full potential? I don't get it.
Yugyeom can be a good vocalist but he's still so unstable live and can't really control his pitch so yeah I prefer the other vocals more. They really need to get a him a good vocal coach if he plans on being taken seriously as a vocalist.
This part distribution chart of Miracle is.... interesting. Choices were made.
Line distribution % in Miracle 😳 pic.twitter.com/7lsuMVv89V (https://t.co/7lsuMVv89V)
— Yugyeom Updates (@yugyeomcontent) 3. joulukuuta 2018 (https://twitter.com/yugyeomcontent/status/1069551973018595329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
I think he has potential as a vocalist, but yeah he's definitely unstable. I think for the most part though he just has one of those voices that can be really divisive, kinda like Park Bom's, and idk, his tone (especially with how he's been singing recently) just isn't for me.
Like, the only song I remember really liking his voice in was Remember You, which imo is still their best song to date. And now that I just went to listen to it again, I'm really wondering why they haven't really utilized Jackson's singing voice much either, because it's freaking beautiful.
Yeah I found that video before I left my comment because I wasn't sure if there really was a serious lack of Youngjae or if I was just being salty lmao. XD
At this point I just think I'm cursed to have my faves barely have any lines XD Stray Kids has done me dirty with how few lines they give Felix, and now that Youngjae has become my ultimate bias wrecker, he's getting less too even though he's supposed to be a main vocalist. XD
it's almost a little funny because the last time got7 made a comeback with a holiday song was when they promoted confession song and even back then, i found it a little ??? at how many parts yugyeom and jinyoung got :o they sang pretty much the entire first half of the song and all jb and youngjae got was the repetitive "i love you baby i love you" in the chorus lmao
which is why i firmly stand by my point that got7's this.star is the SUPERIOR wintery type of song they ever did!! everyone gets a satisfying amount of lines and the song itself is just really good too! jinyoung did well there
see, i only recently got into them so i wasn't around for their last winter-y comeback, and tbh i usually completely skip over holiday type songs because i'm a scrooge XD so i had no idea that this was the case last time as well.
i'll try and look that song up tonight, maybe everyone getting lines in a soft song will warm up my cold dead heart XD especially since i really enjoy jinyoung's voice (it just has a tone that i really appreciate)
oooh ok!! well if you're ever in need of got7 song recs, feel free to ask!! heheh :> yeah i was kind of hoping for miracle to come through because i admit i felt like confession song was a little bit of a letdown TO ME at least (although i loved the mv!!) but idk miracle is an okay song but unfortunately nothing more!
omg YES this.star is the perfect song for when you wanna be emo on a rainy fall day lying in your bed with a warm cup of tea hahahah BUT REALLY definitely listen to it!! personally i think it's one of their best holiday songs but also one of their best songs in general!!!
oh, i've listened to their entire discography more times than i can count ("remember you" is by far my fave song of their though, no contest) but i just don't listen to the holiday songs because i find them kinda boring. like, confession song and miracle aren't BAD they're just not my cup of tea lol.
ok yeah i just listened to it and it's pretty good. i don't think it's one of my favorite songs of theirs, but it's not because of the members because they all sounded good. i just thought the backtrack was a little too loud at times and almost made it hard to hear them, which is a damn shame since they do sound really good there.
Well, I guess I'm the only one who is glad Yugyeom got so many lines in the song. He has a lovely voice esp for someone who wasn't originally trained in it. I love seeing his growth.
And not to mention excluding Miracle he's one of the most stable members on stage even when he stays putting 100% into the choreo...
This comeback is pure. That's all. It's beautiful and I'm glad Yugyeom got more exposure.
That said, Youngjae deserved waaaaay more lines and I'm tired of this game JYP keeps playing with him. This song is quite literally in his range, and the best parts live are without a doubt his. I know their explanation for this is always "main vocals sing the chorus" but nah. Even when JB composes they pressure him to change the distribution around, even though he is known to be very fair. This has nothing to do with the members, it'a all JYP/E.
I'm also quite enjoying Mark's parts? In fact, his part along with Youngjae's is actually my favorite. Jinyoung does this already but they should use Mark for subvocals instead of rap.
I have yet to make it through this song, it's so sad. Maybe if I could just skip past the first half ... but it still seems like it's gotta be cheesy as f*.
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Date: 2018-12-08 08:20 pm (UTC)I feel like JY and YG are gonna struggle vocally in the live stages for this and never really sound like in the studio version. Also I want the stylists to stop giving Jinyoung blazers and just let him be in a flowy lace shirt for a change.
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Date: 2018-12-08 09:06 pm (UTC)jinyoung's outfits these past two days have been sooo pretty though!!! i love love love it but yeah i think something like bam's shirt today would have looked nice on him as well :>
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Date: 2018-12-08 09:43 pm (UTC)HE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THE IG HANDLE AND JUST FOUND THE PIC OF GOOGLE ASDFGHJ why is anyone surprised let the old man live
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Date: 2018-12-08 11:02 pm (UTC)i'm kinda thinking that it's unfortunate how little youngjae gets to sing in miracle because he has been very very stable at these music show performances so far!! and yes you might be right about jinyoung, i'm just not really seeing/hearing it (yet) because i'm blinded by my bias towards him but i'll make sure to listen closer and pay more attention next time!! :^)
lmfao yes!! jinyoung and his ig is such... a saga!! it's freaking me out how he knows /everything/ that fans say!! i mean yes he is known for that but still, i get surprised every time! it's so precious how much thought and effort he seems to have put into choosing his ig handle and display pic!! i can totally imagine him sitting there and googling his own name hahahah
honestly i think jinyoung at least knew A LITTLE that he was gonna expose more than what he exposed last time!! :') i love how fans ask all the important questions at fansigns lsfkjfgjg good job everyone
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Date: 2018-12-09 08:30 am (UTC)I mean I acknowledge Youngjae is a way better singer what comes to technique and range, but there's just things I love about JY (his tone, his expressions when he sings plus literally everything else about his persona asdfg) that make him my favorite, BUT ia they should've utilized Youngjae more.
I saw this part distribution chart of Miracle and ngl I'm a little ??? at the choices that were made...
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Date: 2018-12-09 11:45 am (UTC)same about jinyoung's voice! it's funny because it was youngjae's voice that pulled me into got7 but over time, i've come to enjoy jinyoung's voice so much more.
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Date: 2018-12-09 11:07 am (UTC)i'm not very versed in that but speaking of singing techniques. i sometimes hear ppl say that jinyoung uses that classic jype technique of half-sound half-air or whatever it's called and idk if it's true but a lot of times, i do hear him singing the way i /think/ that technique is supposed to sound like and idk, i feel like it works to his disadvantage sometimes!! like he gets breathy at moments where i feel like he /shouldn't/ because it makes him sound kinda breathless and it would sound better if he went all out with his voice. i think he uses that technique in "my youth", doesn't he? and for that song imo it fits but there are other songs (that i can't think of right now lsdfglfh) where i wish he didn't :o idk
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Date: 2018-12-09 01:34 pm (UTC)I feel like on the scale of Youngjae - Jinyoung - Yugyeom, Youngjae has the most stable vocals with the best support and Yugyeom is just... well, on the other end of the scale lmao and Jinyoung is somewhere in the middle. He sounds mostly pretty stable and is a reliable vocalist in their songs most of the time but then sometimes he sounds like he forces the notes out with a harsh finish(?), like he's not a singer that "belts" and his voice sounds like it's about to give in lol (or so it sounds to me, idk what the right terminology is), he's more reliable in his falsettos when it comes to high notes.
But idk is this a technique that's been taught him and would he be able to relax his voice if taught differently, idk! At least he seems to be constantly improving his vocals which is enjoyable for a fan to hear :3
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Date: 2018-12-09 02:32 pm (UTC)oooh i definitely agree with your assessment! if yugyeom is part of got7's vocal line then he is for sure the weakest link, i honestly don't think anyone is gonna disagree with that? right? lmfao anyway yes something i noticed about jinyoung's singing sometimes is that he forces out notes and rather than singing, he starts to almost yell i feel like. i can think of a few other kpop idols who do this but yeah imo jinyoung definitely needs to watch out for that because forcing it all out can lead to unstability really easily i think! like he loses control over his voice then. but like you said, he is constantly improving!! and you can really hear that improvement every time they make another comeback heheh :>
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Date: 2018-12-09 11:44 pm (UTC)I wouldn't have known it was him on King of Masked singer. Not until close to the end when he had to sing some higher notes that I finally recognized his voice. He's come a long way.
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Date: 2018-12-09 11:38 pm (UTC)I'm also definitely blinded by bias. Jaebum is not the best vocalist by any means and I also don't usually like the color of his voice in other singers (he tends to this really bright sound).
And I wish I knew more to comment on that half sound half air technique. There is a KPop vocal analysis blog but they've only done JB and Youngjae in this group. :/ Jinoyoung sounded amazing when he was on masked singer, and he didn't sound breathy there at least not that I remember. It may have been that he was able to sing in his range? Which is lower than most of Got7's songs I think...
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Date: 2018-12-09 08:34 am (UTC)This part distribution chart of Miracle is.... interesting. Choices were made.
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Date: 2018-12-09 08:59 am (UTC)Like, the only song I remember really liking his voice in was Remember You, which imo is still their best song to date. And now that I just went to listen to it again, I'm really wondering why they haven't really utilized Jackson's singing voice much either, because it's freaking beautiful.
Yeah I found that video before I left my comment because I wasn't sure if there really was a serious lack of Youngjae or if I was just being salty lmao. XD
At this point I just think I'm cursed to have my faves barely have any lines XD Stray Kids has done me dirty with how few lines they give Felix, and now that Youngjae has become my ultimate bias wrecker, he's getting less too even though he's supposed to be a main vocalist. XD
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Date: 2018-12-09 02:37 pm (UTC)which is why i firmly stand by my point that got7's this.star is the SUPERIOR wintery type of song they ever did!! everyone gets a satisfying amount of lines and the song itself is just really good too! jinyoung did well there
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Date: 2018-12-10 05:29 am (UTC)i'll try and look that song up tonight, maybe everyone getting lines in a soft song will warm up my cold dead heart XD especially since i really enjoy jinyoung's voice (it just has a tone that i really appreciate)
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Date: 2018-12-10 09:02 pm (UTC)omg YES this.star is the perfect song for when you wanna be emo on a rainy fall day lying in your bed with a warm cup of tea hahahah BUT REALLY definitely listen to it!! personally i think it's one of their best holiday songs but also one of their best songs in general!!!
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Date: 2018-12-11 01:28 am (UTC)ok yeah i just listened to it and it's pretty good. i don't think it's one of my favorite songs of theirs, but it's not because of the members because they all sounded good. i just thought the backtrack was a little too loud at times and almost made it hard to hear them, which is a damn shame since they do sound really good there.
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Date: 2018-12-09 02:45 pm (UTC)And not to mention excluding Miracle he's one of the most stable members on stage even when he stays putting 100% into the choreo...
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Date: 2018-12-09 03:44 pm (UTC)That said, Youngjae deserved waaaaay more lines and I'm tired of this game JYP keeps playing with him. This song is quite literally in his range, and the best parts live are without a doubt his. I know their explanation for this is always "main vocals sing the chorus" but nah. Even when JB composes they pressure him to change the distribution around, even though he is known to be very fair. This has nothing to do with the members, it'a all JYP/E.
I'm also quite enjoying Mark's parts? In fact, his part along with Youngjae's is actually my favorite. Jinyoung does this already but they should use Mark for subvocals instead of rap.
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