[identity profile] goshipgurl.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid
On a recent Instagram Live session, Baekhyun once again called out Sasaengs and their stalking behavior. He also talked about his health, asked fans for permission to lose weight and listed the things he was told (by sasaengs) to change in order to get more popular. In addition, he told fans that they can stop buying albums now and to buy something warm instead, like a padded jacket.



Translation:

Are they an attention-seeker? Must be somebody that wants to interrupt this Instagram live. This must be it. I think this way. Our members' phone numbers float around the internet because of sasaengs.....
I get hundreds of calls/messages a day, and sometimes there are times when I can't even read my parents' messages because they all get pushed back. It's not hard for me, but... since you guys can say bad things I don't post about it, and I have messed up in the past...
I'm trying to be careful every time, and I'm trying to work hard every time. I just want everybody to be happy. There's nothing that changed from the day I debuted til now.
The reason why I can't really turn on lives well (vlive and ig) is that I can't continue on if it's somewhere without wifi. It keeps getting disconnected..... That's why I try to hold lives at places with wifi.
Even if I get calls from sasaengs, even if I don't get calls, I try to communicate with fans a lot. I don't know what they're curious about, but, it's kinda amazing/mysterious, to be honest....
Our eris are lovely. Sasaengs... Honestly, if I keep bringing them up, I think they'll like it. Ah, also, this isn't anything worth mentioning, but our eris told me to say it, so I'll say it. One fan... ah, this is ridiculous.
They told me that to get more reactions, I need black hair, get lenses, wear a Chanel hat, and... they told me that that's how I get reactions. That I'm getting no reactions right now. They keep sending me that message every day, at early mornings, every single day.
I was getting immensely stressed. They said that that's what people that like Baekhyun want. But that's not it. The fact that they generalized all people that like Baekhyun made me mad. Exo-l's like everything I do. Anyway, that happened. It was funny. I changed to red hair, right?
They said that it had to be a deeper red for it to be liked more. Isn't it ridiculous... I'm now going to go on a diet. Just a little bit. "I now hate chanel hats" haha!
My face has been so bloated lately, and it's uncomfortable... I want exo-l's permission this time... I can go on the diet, right? I want to show a better me to our eris. Just about... 3 kgs!
I got an health examination recently, and back when I had abs, my body fat percentage was 8-9%. But now it's 10% -- i ate a lot. Eating made me happy. I got that common thing called a "yo-yo!"
I really get happy from eating! My favorite food? Pizza! I really do think that I love pizza the most. Pizza is so good... Ah... I want to do things such as Youtube when I get time. I have confidence that I'll eat things really deliciously! Like mukbangs!
Our exo-ls are bad at gaming so i can teach you guys gaming... just small things like that.... I really do think times have changed. You can't see real-time reactions with tv shows so I think they're not as fun. I like live broadcasts much better.
They might say, "your standards are being lowered!" but what are "my standards?" I don't care. Yeah, that's right. I don't have anything like that. I just want to talk a lot with exo-ls!



source: xo124, @xiumindeullae (thread)

Date: 2018-11-24 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] normanikordei.livejournal.com
listed the things he was told (by fans?) to change in order to get more popular.

he said the sasaengs text him these things, not fans.

its gotta be extremely annoying and scary tbh to have these crazy ass people texting and calling you all day and night. I’m sure they change their phone numbers, but they just keep finding them or changing their own if they get blocked.

Date: 2018-11-24 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
Every time I read about sasaengs, I want to punch something.

Also wtf is this thing about diet and permission? Was he being sarcastic? Idek.

Date: 2018-11-24 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vintage-boom.livejournal.com
I was watching and he wasn't rly asking permission to diet like it reads in text. he was talking about wanting to get back in shape and that he'd need to diet and cheekily was like ~aerie is that ok~ in a lighthearted way. I think it's cuz last time he cut weight he did it so fast fans got worried.

Date: 2018-11-24 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilcoc0nut.livejournal.com
This is why I never have any sympathy for these people. I don't care what it is, or what idols or their bodyguards do to them. They're nothing but harassers. Play stupid games win stupid prizes is how I see it. Disgusting.

Date: 2018-11-24 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohbubbajoan.livejournal.com
this is fucked up.
my anxiety just spiked reading this. imagine a group of people calling you non stop, trying to control you all the time on your personal phone saying you have to do this and that and less this and that... i'd have a breakdown in a bad day for sure.
i've seen a bit of this on twitter and someone linked the letter (?) his sasaengs wrote after they mobbed his brother bday and that thing gave me chills ngl

Date: 2018-11-25 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainstormraider.livejournal.com
The thing is these stalkers get their kicks by having support from fans who will eat up every bit of tidbit these heathens uncover on their faves. If you really want to kill this culture stop following their accounts, report their sites for breach of privacy, don’t use the images and videos they produce and don’t tacitly continue to support them.

The fans who condone this are the same who are furiously whitewashing stalker photos to fap over on their IGs. You want to stan your Oppar? Make their lives easier by boycotting these sasaeng.

Date: 2018-11-25 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynr.livejournal.com
saesang grossness aside, I really hope Baekhyun was engaging in fanservice with this conversation with eris, because otherwise boy is getting twisted about healthy relationships and boundaries. I was more disturbed by that than the stalking shit.

And also total bullshit on: I went up 1% bodyfat and my face is so bloated and I'm so uncomfortable. I don't know if he's lying to his fans (just admit it was 4%, or whatever, change!) or if his relationship to his figure isn't healthy right now....

I really hope this is all some bad fanservice. And that saesangs somehow face legal repercussions.
Edited Date: 2018-11-25 01:50 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-11-25 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sra-interesante.livejournal.com
and if you check #sasaeng tag on instagram/twitter/weibo you can see those stalkers always manage to find his new number everytime he changed it 🤦🤦🤦

Date: 2018-11-25 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dropit87.livejournal.com
I hate that all these crazies say this stuff. I reported someone giving out Chanyeol's # on Insta. Like get a fucking productive hobby & leave them alone.

Date: 2018-11-25 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dropit87.livejournal.com
I was just searching "Chanyeol" and the number came up. I wish they could filter that and the rape porn the comes up about the group. I'm just trying to read fan sign accounts bc that will never happen here lol

Date: 2018-11-25 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
The rape porn? oO what???? Oo

Date: 2018-11-25 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dropit87.livejournal.com
I'll just search by group or names to look at pictures and the amount of crazy fanfic about rape etc that shows up is nuts. Like at least put a warning on it.

Date: 2018-11-25 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyeena.livejournal.com
baekhyun seems to have a good self-esteem, which is why i'm not too worried about the things sasaengs say to him ("you need to be this and that to be popular"). bbh acknowledges that exo-ls love him as he is, and that's true. not every look on bbh is my favorite, but i love him all the same, through thick and thin. he seems genuinely so kind and loving towards exo-ls... <3 keep saying "i don't care" to sasaengs!!

PLEASE do mukbang!!! omg on my old computer i had so many gifs of bbh eating and was always desperate for more. him munching away (or doing anything, really...) is such a stress reliever for me too.

Date: 2018-11-25 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baekpedaling.livejournal.com
Baekhyun opening a mukbang channel is everything I want in life. So many idols are making youtube channels nowadays too

Date: 2018-11-25 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babyjenkski.livejournal.com
He's one of the most popular from EXO and must really have a lot of sasaengs. Really be irritating to have sasaengs randomly sending you messages or calling you. And also...if he wants to diet, go ahead. For as long as its something he likes, do it properly and that he would still be healthy.

Date: 2018-11-25 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the3rdjester.livejournal.com
Will sasaeng culture ever die? When will people and the law start taking these crazy stalkers seriously and do something about it?

Good for him to not acknowledge sasaengs' demands on how he should look. The nerve of some people. But what else should we expect from harassers.

If Baekhyun’s not pressured and doesn’t follow an extreme practice for weight loss, then he’s obviously free to do whatever he wants and makes him happy.

Date: 2018-11-25 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vintage-boom.livejournal.com
Sasaeng culture won’t die until people start admitting that all fansites are sasaengs and stop supporting them.

Date: 2018-11-25 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the3rdjester.livejournal.com
And the majority of fans doen't want less videos and photos (of high quality) of their faves, so the fansites will remain strong. Genuine question: Are all fansites sasaengs?

Date: 2018-11-25 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vintage-boom.livejournal.com
fansites build pretty lucrative businesses out of stalking their subjects to public and non-public schedules, traveling with the groups when they go abroad, and gift them super expensive gifts as a way of "claiming ownership" which is inappropriate imo (they relish in the knowledge of their fave wearing the clothes they bought and brag as soon as they get pics of them in it) and while a lot of them don't publicly post numbers or addresses they definitely get access to info they shouldn't in ways that isn't ethical.

there's very little distinction in that behaviour and what people describe as sasaeng behaviour but fansites get a pass on a lot of it because they provide pics and sell fangoods.

Date: 2018-11-25 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] volume1995.livejournal.com
In addition, he told fans that they can stop buying albums now and to buy something warm instead, like a padded jacket.

imagine being this rich...


also fuck those sasaengs :\

Date: 2018-11-25 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edanz-castle.livejournal.com
These guys have been enduring this since day 1, its always sad to hear about this.

Date: 2018-11-25 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blck-ink.livejournal.com
ugh everytime i read something about sasaengs and their sick behavior my blood boils. i don't know if these sickos need help or need to be put away somewhere...

Date: 2018-11-25 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violentiak.livejournal.com
Gosh, it must be so frustrating to deal with that. I just hope there could be a way to prevent their phone numbers getting leaked.

But this live almost like ASMR experience for me. His humming and soft voice were so relaxing.

Date: 2018-12-18 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessi-cola.livejournal.com
SK telecom need to create an idol service where only pre-approved numbers are allowed

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