OMONA THEY DID(N&#39;T)!

Now I really want to try the tint lip thing :o

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Sleeq REALLY handed San E his ass and I'm still living over it TBQH!

SMH @ me for ever finding him remotely cute during UPRS season 2 but in my defense that was the first I knew of/about him and figured he was just some sort of host

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Hahahaha lmao I hope you get your Minho XD

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Finally moving out of my old place today , bye shitty flat mate lol never living with a man child again 🙄 I mean everything is still far from over I have to shop for the new place and find a replacement tenant still but I’m excited for the change nonetheless hehe

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Being in a different place is already going to change things a lot!!! I hope you'll find quickly a new places to start fresh <3

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Thank you <3 i really should have done this right from the start, 2 months of my exchange wasted just like that and ton of money down the drain but just opening the door to my new place makes me so much happier already (´∀｀) here’s to better days!

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On another note, do people these days just...not know how to socialise anymore ? I know it’s an internet thing that everyone is socially awkward(I am to some extent) but jeez the amount of people that are straight up not capable of reading the most simple social cues these days are just so...huge?!?! And take pride in not being able to do so on the internet ?!?!? Like I get social interactions being exchausting but these people flat out ...don’t try then blame everyone but themselves for their problems lol.

Also I think this ties in with kpop where I see people saying stuff like “oh I always felt like an outcast until I find this ‘community’” a lot and base their entire identity on being a part of it and/or live vicariously through their idols successes. Idk I feel like fandoms are even more culty nowadays because of this, I’m sure everyone is attached to their fandom but the connection just seems a lot deeper now.

Sometimes I feel like some of these people don’t even like the idols that much but so much of their identity and relationships have been based on the fandom it’s hard to dissociate the two. It’s a bit scary tbh but who am I to tell people what to do with their lives ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ?

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I agree with you a lot. I mentioned this on ontd before but there just something off about a lot of kpop fans and why they’re drawn to their community is often concerning too. I’m not perfect, I have my issues with socializing like many others, but when I have met kpop fans (and lbr majority were bts fans) in real life my first thought is usually they shouldn’t have left their basement because socializing with them is very....awkward.

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Yeah, I occasionally work/stop by at kpop related events for the freebies and then sheer lack of self-awareness floors me every time lol.

To be fair, I guess most fandoms are an escape to people who can’t fit in and not just kpop but the concept of liking only one thing and the constant fanwars(which I guess adds to the community spirit in the most warped sense possible lmao) + endless competiting with other groups...just combines to create a very toxic combination.
Like weaboos are generally unsociable bunch at the very least people don’t attack others (as an organised group anyway) over their preferred choice of say anime and liking several is acceptable. Kpop the past few years on the other hand...

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Oh no, I meant people very proudly saying they don’t know how to socialise in real life and don’t care about it on the internet haha. Internet socialising is a different beast altogther because of the lack of non verbal cues and net culture.

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god i agree so much. i am terribly awkward with new people, but god do I try. And usually I'm the only person doing the work and it pisses me off. Like come on, help me a little! We both need this interaction, for one reason or another, why the heck should I be the only one trying (especially if it's with men. my god i hate socializing with men)

maybe it's a generation thing but i really can't do online relationships. i'm fine with commenting on omona but just chatting someone up on tumblr or twitter? impossible.

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I think it's now trendy to be awkward and be the quirky one. and people really do try to nitpick in such a way that they can deem themselves as different/awkward? (a good example I feel is the extroverted introvert label, which is a little arbitrary imo)
I mean I'm not the best at socialising, but I feel that we should still learn/adapt to social cues, because in real life there aren't many possible jobs/careers for you to forego social interactions. and people are also getting a little self-entitled these days I feel?

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Sometimes I feel like some of these people don’t even like the idols that much but so much of their identity and relationships have been based on the fandom it’s hard to dissociate the two.

This truth right there.

I do agree a lot with what you just said.

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I stay out of the true fandom shit because it all sounds batshit. Like ... these are entertainers who are people too and you should not be building a life or identity solely around them -- they are not responsible for you and really not even that beholden to you, so you are putting yourself in a precarious situation that is unhealthy for all. (general you, not wafflesmik you)

And this may be a bit "get off my lawn!" ageism, but all of us need to be sensitive to each others quirks, including trying to manage ones own social stuff rather than expecting everyone to conform to wherever you are.

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You put words to what I was feeling about current fandom culture!! I absolutely agree.

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there's a lot of tribalism in being a kpop fan and i think people get addicted to it/personalize themselves just like how people get into fantasy novels and it's like i'm from gryffindor with a unicorn hair wand and a part of the quidditch team, etc. this is their fantasy world where they understand the language and memez~~

it's always been somewhat difficult for me to like idols bc most of the time they're not allowed to talk abt themselves at even the most basic level and then fans pigeonhole them into an archetype for easy digestion so even people that THINK they like idols, sometimes i wonder if they know they're making up half of that person's personality

it's like on tumblr when people do kpop incorrect quote posts or whatever where they assign tv dialog to idols and people think its funny but i'm like, they didn't actually say any of that and most of the time they wouldn't so you're just making up head canons for real people??

the caricatures aspect is worrying

also i'm thinking abt how nonsensical twitter replies can be and like continuously referring to a "meme". what is an idol supposed to say abt a picture of themselves they've seen 100 times that fans keep using as a reaction picture lol or better yet reaction pictures from OTHER groups. why are you posting a got7 reaction to an nct tweet. it's so weird... fans completely forget that even though they see kpop as a monolith, these are still individual groups and people. imagine seeing a stranger's pic used by a fan to describe how they love you?

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I don't know how it relates to kpop, I don't really talk to hardcore kpop stans irl but there is def. a relationship between social media and rl interactions. A lot of people struggle to form relationships because they're afraid of 'being real' so to speak. Like a lot of people I meet are stunned to find out me and my friends regularly get into fights about deep issues, e.g. social movements and what we think if the best way to go about them (most things don't have a solution. For example it'd be great to say I don't consume any media that might include an abuser but I listen to kpop so...) and it's alienating because people are so used to being perfect with their friends 24/7

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I'm impressed you and your friends do get into deep conversations! I'm working hard these days on being ok with uncomfortable conversations and subjects with friends, because the world needs to be discussed, but it takes a lot of effort to be ok with being uncomfortable AND to not let it slide over into other parts of friendships.

and I'm old.

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I think a large part of it is I just don't have the fear of losing friends? Those that can connect with you even if you don't agree will be a stronger friendship in the long run. My friends and I can get into arguments and disagree with each other without ruining a friendship. Anyone not willing to put in an ounce of emotional labour doesn't need to be my friend. I know that sounds harsh but it's a two way street for me. This is obviously a very broad understanding of how I consider relationships and each person's qualms are unique to them

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I have the same issues with people’s inability to socialize, especially with men. Honestly if they can’t even make small talk then I won’t even bother because that’s the kind of shit they should’ve grown out of since high school.

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Anyone wanna collab on a Christmas songs post? I have a playlist READY but can’t code for shit lmao

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I can't code so I can't help sadly but, I'm looking forward your posts 👌✨

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I can't code like

seulgibear or

stutterflies, but I'm ready to help :D !

Edited Date: 2018-11-23 05:51 pm (UTC)

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I hope all Americans (and Canadians a couple weeks ago) had a great Thanksgiving! I was so grateful for rain, and we even got a break for blue skies and fresh air! It's raining again, and I am grateful for the assistance in avoiding Black Friday before a friendsgiving.

I ended up watching some more iKon tv, and it seems like a couple of them are super sweet, they just happen to have a few loud members who get them in trouble. Admittedly, I kind of have fratbro taste (ugh) but even their loud members are almost charming me.

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Happy Friday Omona! Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving :)

I witnessed a magical moment yesterday because I went to see CRUSH and it was just amazing!

I mean it started really badly because the organization was really bad (they moved the venue 1 week before so it ended at the Opera House) and we had to line up under -15 degrees so I was literally about to lose my limbs and then they told us that we needed the printed tickets with the bar code because they didn't accept the one on the app, anyway it was A MESS.

But then I was so happy because I ended up on the balcony with seats with amazing view so it was worth it surviving the cold lol. Millic opened the 1st part and it was cool, wished he did Paradise but he only DJed. And then CRUSH came and I had the best moment of my life lol, I experienced that when I saw Zion.T and it's just pure bliss. He sang Beautiful Life from Goblin's OST acapella and I got tears in my eyes, when he ended with Lay Your Head On Me, my emotions were all over the place because it was really beautiful. We had so much fun during Party (Shut down) and DPR Live's Laputa :). He was so endearing when he tried to speak English and he made us laugh. I enjoyed it so much and I don't regret fighting the cold for him lol. If you get the chance to see him don't hesitate! #STANTALENT

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Hi Omona! Hope you are all having a lovely weekend. :)

I had to make a new account to be able to use Omona (I've been locked out of @plantbottle since 2014, I didn't have many friends in the comm so I'm not sure if people remember me) but I've been a member of Omona/following Omona since 2009-2010 so it's nice to be able to comment again! :) I essentially grew up with this place (I was ~13 when I first found Omona and I'm 23 now, wow!!) which is kind of funny, haha. I also want to give a huge thank you to omona- if it wasn't for people commenting honestly and speaking up about issues that are not okay, I wouldn't have learned those things easily either. It was through Omona that I learned to fix interalized misogyny that I had from growing up, what words are completely not okay to use, among other things and I really appreciate that. People can call Omona negative all they want, but I feel like I learn every day by seeing the dialogue thats happening. Thank you! :)

That being said, because I was locked out of my account, I really did not have the platform to be able to talk about the events of December 18th, 2017. I've been holding my feelings in about what happened, but I think i'm ready to talk about it. He was my my first kpop crush, my most favourite korean artist, and I think I now have the words to to express how I feel. Also, something magical happened on Christmas (about a week after) and I wanted to share that with you all!!! Under a cut for lengthiness for possibly triggering feelings....

When I woke up in the morning and heard the news, I felt like I couldn't breathe. I was repeating 'no no no' and laying in bed numb. The next few days were a complete blur, but all I could remember was thinking about him day in, day out. I remember feeling this empty kind of sadness, and anger. An anger like- how could he leave? An anger at the world who did this to him. It wasn't until his funeral that I could actually cry. I sobbed and sobbed, and I went to pray at my local temple (I'm a Buddhist) that he would reach the next life safely.

Honestly, I was rather numb. A lot of people mentioned that they were completely debilitated by his passing, but I felt out of place. I could listen to his music, I could see pictures of him, I could think of him. But I was numb. He was my most favourite artist- and I was numb. I felt like I wasn't a good fan.

Ever since that day, I have thought about him every single day. Whenever i'm sad, I always look up at the moon, and I imagine that it's shining a little brighter for me. Whenever I've had rough nights and felt really alone, I could always look through my window and see 'him' up there, and it gave me a lot of comfort.

On Christmas, something incredible happened. It had been a week since his passing. I live in Canada so it was freezing and snowing. It was dreary and gloomy. But, for some fucking reason....a single rosebush (they were all planted at the same time, I have 3).....bloomed! Bright red roses, just like the colour jjong chose for himself among the group, just like the flower people associated him with. My entire family was shocked, I was shocked, and yes maybe roses do bloom in the winter, but....for my peace of mind, I decided to see it as a sign that he was okay, and happy.

Jjong's passing has permanently changed me, and I wish more than anything that he was still here. But I feel like I should live my life in his honour, and achieve my dreams (I want to be a doctor) so that I can make the world a better place for people who were hurt in the way that he was. There is a jjong shaped hole in my heart, but to compensate...i think my heart became a lot bigger and stronger.

thanks for listening to my talk hehe

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Jjong was such a kind and compassionate person, and I feel that if he could indeed send us a sign from wherever he is, it seems like something he would do. <3

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Welcome back 💕It's always good to see people rising back in the section comment. *hugs tight* Jonghyun's absence is deeply felt tbh. I always go silent when he's mentionned. I really hope you achieve your dreams and contribute to make the world a bit better. I'm sure you will ✨

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Thank you <3 <3 *hugs*

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I learned a lot from Omona and ONTD too, it's a great way to get different perspectives on social issues that I wouldn't otherwise have access to, living such a sheltered life. I totally get what you mean.

I'm glad you could open up about your feelings, it was such a shock to me as well and sometimes I'm still angry/sad/bitter about it. I love reading about signs like what happened to your rosebush, it really makes me feel like we're getting some communication from him, like he's ok, and in turn we can be ok too.

All the best on your journey to becoming a doctor, I'm on that path as well and it's tough but so rewarding. If you ever want to talk about it, I'm all ears! I'm in no way an expert but it helps to have friends on the way.

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Having friends does help so much. There have been so many times i've considered quitting, but having a great support system has helped immensely. I'm sure you'll get to where you want to be <3 I saw your comment below, what residency are you hoping for?

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Family Medicine! You?

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your story about jjong is so beautiful!
i feel the same as you. as soon as i could finally process the news i listened to a-yo, because it was a song that had always given me comfort over the years and it gave me a lot of comfort even when i was still trying to process the fact that he was gone forever. i too was able to still enjoy his songs, look at pictures of him and all that and i also wondered if maybe i wasn't missing him enough or i didn't love him enough? but my heart ached, i cried for him so much and then i realized i was incredibly lucky. there are people who still can't listen to shinee songs so i'm so thankful that i can.
strangely enough what REALLY helped me is when the moon turned blue! i don't know if you saw the tweets, but japanese and korean fans were posting pics of the teal moon in the sky and i took it as a sign as well (even though i'm not religious). it's the most random things like that that really help people pull through i think.
my inbox is always open if you ever feel like talking about this <3

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I listened to a-yo soooo much during that month. It's such a healing song.

I did see the tweets! I hung onto those for dear life honestly. I ended up telling my parents about it (because I didn't really have anyone else to talk to about jjong) and what they told me (they're practicing Buddhists) was that the amount of people sending jjong love and praying for his happiness was enough to make 'magic happen' (its hard to translate from sinhalese to english, lol). And while I am definitely a science major through and through....the thought that the love and compassion of so many people could send him to wherever his next destination is safely was hugely comforting, and something I chose to believe for myself.

Thank you, I appreciate it so much <3

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Hope everyone who celebrates Thanksgiving had a great one! I know some of you were posting about starting etsy accounts a while back, let us know if you set it up and we can support you on Small Business Saturday!

Y'all I'm 2 weeks away from the biggest exam of my life, I could use whatever prayers/goodthoughts/wellwishes you have. For real, this is crunch time, I'm working my butt off and I hope I get the score I need to get the right residency for me, that's all I ask.

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You can do it! Hang in there, push through, sleep, try to do a little exercise to relax and clear your mind and make yourself smarter, and YOU CAN DO IT!

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