Hello Counselor Episode 384 (with GOT7 Jinyoung & JB, Cheetah, Moon Se Yoon, Kim Sung Eun)

[camouflagecat.livejournal.com]

(click the screencap to watch the episode)

OP's note: the episode deals with topics that might be sensitive to some viewers (idk putting that out there just to be safe)

• In the beginning JJP dance to Lullaby and do push-ups


• Story 1 (4:55): 13yo daughter worries about his dad drinking excessively and it causing problems in the family


• Story 2 (33:00): single dad taking care of his two daughters, but faces problems with public attitude and misunderstandings


• Story 3 (59:25): big sister worried of her little sister's dream of being a choreographer (this is the most lighthearted part and you get more JJP bc of the topic)

Sources: kshow123 / gif

God I forgot how infuriating this show could be.
The drinking dad made my blood boil right from the moment he opened his mouth, I commend JJP for keeping their cool bc I was livid just watching this. Also this is the first time JB's revealing that his mom divorced his biological dad and that he lives with his step dad now, and that was a shock to the whole fandom tbh. But I commend him for being so mature and calm in the situation and trying to give actual solid advice and input to these people.

The next case with the single dad was a nice palate cleanser but even there the attitudes he had to face was so frustrating to listen to.

The last story is the kind that this show suits the most imo bc it's not too serious and it actually had the most JJP which is understandable concidering the topic.

Comments

[petecarl.livejournal.com]

I read the Soompi article, and that dad infuriated me. It's so upsetting how lightly abuse and alcoholism are taken there. I hope divorces continue to become more normalized, because people shouldn't feel trapped by public embarrassment and shame. Some relationships don't work out. People change, and it's fine to leave them because of that. JB'sopening up was nice.

The Winner fandom had a similar shock earlier this year when Jinwoo was on that prison variety show and opened up to an inmate with a drinking problem about how his mom left his dad over his drinking and how he used to blame her (he felt sympathy for his dad), but listening to his story, he now understand his mom and encouraged the guy to quit drinking for his family. It's amazing how we can know and find out so much info about our faves, and yet they're still able to keep stuff like this private.

[camouflagecat.livejournal.com]

Their drinking culture, the attitude of sweeping things under the rug or not talking about things with their proper names and taking proper actions, I just will never understand it (or that's how it seems, maybe I'm misinformed hopefully). Coming from a country with heavy drinking culture as well the problems and consequences of it seem to be a topic of discussion whenever here and I'd be curious to see how that nationswide discussion would look like in SK.

Also I know it's a conservative country, but I also hope that things different from the (stereo)typical nuclear family will slowly be normalized and not so scrutinized. Some of the things the single dad had to go thru...

It was nice to see JB being comfortable enough to reveal that, when he had every right to keep it private if he had so wished imo (fans shouldn't except to know their idol's whole life story, but let them decide what they wanna share). But yeah it's pretty interesting how these people you think you "know" can still surprise you in the end.

[petecarl.livejournal.com]

I'm American, and our drinking culture isn't great, but at least we have a culture of being open (at least compared to other countries), so it's a lot easier here for people to say no to a drink and open up about bad circumstances and family problems (plus, people have more options for coping mechanisms since therapy is more acceptable here, and we're starting to legalize weed, through there is also unhealthy coping through drug use).

I haven't watched it, but I feel bad for the single dad. I remember being shocked when I heard about kids in Korea being made fun of for having one parent (even when one of the parents died!) and how single mothers worry about their boss finding out because they can be fired for that (idk if that's legal, but it definitely happens). It's really unhealthy to get caught up in an idea of "how things are supposed to be". It's definitely better to focus on improving or celebrating the situation at hand instead of adding barriers just because it's not what people expect.

[shh1987.livejournal.com]

I just finished watching it and wow @ that first "dad". Like what a way to treat your family... unbelievable!

I was so surprised to see JB reveal that about his family because he's such a private person in general.

Kudos to the second dad! Being a single parent is not easy but you can tell he's giving 100%. It sucks he doesn't really have a support system like relatives to help. :/ He must feel so isolated...

The girl was so adorable! I think if she's that passionate then she'll be able to find motivation to work harder towards her dream regardless of what her family says about her dancing.

[yuujinchous.livejournal.com]

what a guy. i hope that "father" has learned and understood a thing or two by appearing on that show but honestly i'm not expecting all that much from him. even towards the end of their segment, he still had that creepy ass smile on his face like he did not care at all. and he doesn't, clearly. it's so worrying and scary to see him talk about their family situation so casually when his two daughters are literally sitting there crying in front of him? honestly i really hope that lady gets a divorce, it's the best solution imo. then again, i don't really know which stance korean people in general have re: divorce and all that stuff because reading through some of the comments, it seems like a very stigmatized issue that needs to be normalized way more. :o if that's true then i wish her all the best and hope that she has good supoort system to get through this.

i really appreciate jb opening up about his own family situation as well. i didn't expect it, i don't think anyone did because he's such a private person but i'm glad he did. from what we've seen of them, his parents have always come across as so sweet and supportive of their son! it's good that jb's mom was able to remove herself and jb from that sort of situation and get a divorce. good for them!

[scionofawhisper.livejournal.com]

What a rollercoaster of feels with those first two fathers.. @_@ That first father was so annoying, it was like he didn't have the emotional intelligence and capacity to understand anyone else...
I can't believe he just left his wife to herself when she had a miscarriage surgery, wtf!?
I don't think he's capable of changing, he seems to lack some fundamentals of being a human being.

I'm glad the last one was about dancing and career stuff so they could say more... in the pre-show vlive, wasn't that JB said he could talk about? Career stuff...

[camouflagecat.livejournal.com]

Something was bothering me about him and I couldn't put my finger on it, but you said it: the man clearly lacks some sort of emotional intelligence and empathy. How could he sit there and watch his own daughter cry in front of everyone to make him stop drinking, yet not show any remorse over his actions, just trying to explain the guilt away... also the miscarriage story, what the actual fuck. I really would hope the wife leaves him, he doesn't deserve that family.

[daynr.livejournal.com]

It blew my mind too when we found out about JB. Even though I surprised he told us, since he's always been clear about having boundaries, it also doesn't surprise me because he has been taking care of people and giving advice for awhile now.

I don't think I'll watch, though, because the concept of the show irks me.

[misspoirot.livejournal.com]

This show is frustrating alright. Like pretty much one every 10 episodes would feature a patriarch husband/father

[daceymormont.livejournal.com]

I hate this show so much ngl
nice to see jb be so open about this though

[myungung.livejournal.com]

I saw gifs and discussions about JB opening up about his family situation, and I just want to applaud him for being so open. it's not easy, and he has been rather private about letting people know about his family too, so wow.
I'll probably not watch this episode because it kinda hits close to what my work involves, and I don't think I would want to take in more of such stuff