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Maman - Obvious Story
From what I could gather, she used to be a trainee at SM ent. but debuted under Jerry Ent.
During an interview she came out, which led to her being forced to leave her label.



Holland - Neverland


HARISU - Foxy Lady


MERCURY - Don't stop


Lady - Attention
K-pop first transgender group



Mad Clown - Love is a dog from hell (Feat. SURAN)



K.will - Please don't...



Kim Heechul, Min Kyung-hoon - Sweet Dream



Baek JiYoung - I Won't Love Again



Suran - Sad Pain



Sistar - One more Day



After School - Because of You



Sweet revenge - Cry to your heart's content



Red Velvet - Wish Tree



Baby soul & yoo jia - she's a flirt



ANDA - Touch
I think people have voiced concern about this one being baiting, just tell me and I'll remove it



HYUKOH - LOVE YA!



Planet Shiver - Rainbow (feat. Crush)



10cm - HELP



Glam - Party



The followings are open to interpretation
Song Ji Eun - Don't Look At Me Like That



Nell - The day Before
TW for suicide


OP's note: As I mentionned previously I'm am not part of the LGBT+ community, I do not wish to invade anyone's space.
If there's anything wrong with the post just let me know and I will correct it immediatly or delete the post if necessary.


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Date: 2018-06-10 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adenar.livejournal.com
my addition would be Nine Muses' Sleepless Night (tw for overdose/suicide):



which appears to show a depressed Minah spending her night reminiscing on her previous relationships (played by the other namyu members, who also seem to be reminicing about her) by looking through the gifts that she received from them or gave to her; in the morning Minah wakes up next to Sojin (who is apparently naked). It's also the only modern BB track that I've liked lmao

I have a lot of complicated feelings about some videos that make it to the 'lgbt' kpop lists; a lot of the time I'm like, wow that's really tenuous, I feel like there's only really one second of this mv that's throwaway gaybait so that the entire mv can be viewed as ~secretly pro-lgbt~ etc. Or it's like, the song explicitly talks about boys but the mv very vaguely hints at a girl/girl love story. But also I'm aware that especially with some of these older music videos, they're released in a time and place where all you could get away with was a passing moment, or the censors would catch you or you'd receive ridiculous amounts of hate. Even then, there is nowhere in the world you can release a music video with lgbt protagonists/hints without someone going 'urgh why does it have to be about ~the gays~'.

Basically I'm happy that there are these references/scenes that put an lgbt spin on these music videos, and I sure as hell don't want to shit on any country's progress and clever attempts to bypass censors in order to promote equality. I'm just a very tired bi who gets a little jaded sometimes. I guess it's kind of complicated, I don't really talk about this a lot, idk if I'm explaining myself right.

Anyway I still follow Choi Hanbit from Mercury (https://www.instagram.com/BADAHB87/) on instagram and she's so cute! Sometimes the members crop up too since they're all from the same dance academy and work together sometimes. In recent years I've realised how important it is to my being comfortable with my identity to see adult lgbt folks living their lives and existing so I enjoy being able to incorporate a korean celeb into that!

Date: 2018-06-10 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adenar.livejournal.com
That's kind of what I'm saying - they're so general and with such mild 'hints' that I wouldn't include them on a playlist myself, but since so many people do, it makes me wonder if there's something that I'm missing, or if we're all just desperate for acceptance/representation so we fall for even the most unintentional queerbait. For an example, I think it's wonderful that Jieun/Yongguk/their lyricists had interracial/lgbt couples in mind for the song, don't get me wrong, but in the actual execution of the song/mv there's absolutely no reference to it. Since other songs have more explicit lyrics/video representations, even in minor ways, I feel like they could've done at least a bit more than 'oh btw this is about xyz even though it's nowhere in the mv or lyrics'. I'd never fallen for TV programmes like Sherlock or Supernatural where it's super queerbaity, even before the queerbaiting discussion started, so I think I just don't have an interest in things that aren't obvious.

I'm not telling you to remove the videos - everyone has their own standard for what representation they respond to and what degree so I would never want to step on another lgbt person's toes like that - I just kind of wanted to see if anyone else felt the same way or if I'm just stupidly picky. I kind of regret commenting to be honest I get very anxious about this kind of thing. Sorry if I'm overexplaining myself and only making my comments more confusing

Date: 2018-06-10 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsubaki874.livejournal.com
Your feelings are totally valid, not picky at all.

I find myself getting really annoyed by the reaallly queerbaity things like you mentioned I cannot stand Supernatural, I refuse to watch that show it just gets me so annoyed. Personally I am pretty desperate for any kind of lesbian/bi representation in Kpop (After School, Red Velvet, etc) But at the same time it also really bothers me especially with Kpop if it's blatant bait because it gets slammed with criticism for both being baity and also for being LGBT in general. Hell even then just reading a book about feminism will get you slammed like with Irene. So I usually reserve my annoyance to western media where it's more likely to be present, and kind of just deal with what I can get in Korean media.

If that makes any sense, I get what you mean though and I can see what you mean by hard to explain, I can't even figure out how to explain myself lmao
Edited Date: 2018-06-10 05:58 pm (UTC)

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