sm to respect the decision of shinee members regarding upcoming dome concerts in japan

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

SHINee Japanese homepage announcment says the status of SHINee’s ‘'SHINee WORLD THE BEST 2018~FROM NOW ON~’ concerts in February will be determined after discussions with the members and the staff.https://t.co/SxdobpmECN pic.twitter.com/uPmyjGlDnJ

— mes #TeamPinky (@OH_mes) December 24, 2017

for those unaware: shinee is slated to hold a small series of dome concerts in february. the concerts were set up in a way to visibly celebrate their past five tours and albums in japan, and possibly serve as their final dome concerts before onew's enlistment. shinee world japan, their japanese fan club, released a similar statement late on the 23rd and this seemed to be the follow up by sm. speculation is that the statement was released because registration for fan club lottery ticketing was meant to come to a close yesterday.

source(s): oh_mes (via naver)

this one is ... rough and i have some feelings on it that i'll save to post in an actual comment.

Comments

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

that's how i feel too? a part of me was pretty sure that if jinki had decided to leave the group after his scandal they would've went on indefinite hiatus. but this? yeah. it's a lot more tragic and complicated. plus shinee are so heavily ot5 biased and i can't find it in my heart, as selfish as it may sound, for it not to be that way. not just because jonghyun is my ult bias but because ot5 has always meant so much to me. i know it's always been the same for the rest of fandom and the members themselves as well. fandom has always been so protective and proud of their bond and they're stressing wanting to preserve that even after losing him which i'm all for. it also doesn't help that their ending note with him was all "five, five, five": their last korean album was their fifth, their last japanese album was their fifth (and named five), their last swc tour was their fifth, their last japanese tour was their fifth (also named five).

"i can't fathom there's anything less conducive to a healthy grieving period than being thrust into the military". that's where my head is. kibum and minho can hold off on their enlisting for another three years if they really want to, and taemin for even longer, but jinki can't hold off for longer than another year and i don't think he's in the safest head space right now to jump right into enlistment, not with some of the horror stories i've heard in regards to treatment there (especially regarding mental health). i'm not even talking solely in relation to jonghyun's passing either but everything he's went through with his scandal and how netizens are still treating him (and have started up again in the last day or so) idk. a part of me almost wants him to take the time he has before enlisting to stay out of the spotlight, wind down, relax.

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

jfc are you serious they're back on that shit? I can't believe netizens are starting up again literally not even a week since this all went down.

Like I understand not brushing issues under the table and not condoning anything that happened in the scandal, but what kind of damage are people trying to cause? On the heels of an event that shows us, more than anything, that we know nothing about the idols we love / the illnesses they deal with and simultaneously that they do read everything we say and take it to heart?

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

i wish i could say i was making it up but nope. i mentioned this below but: i have a really good friend who used to be a translator and who has a lot of k-shawol friends and she told me they never stopped. not for jonghyun, not to let him grieve. some are getting worse. there was a comment on the naver article about his message to jonghyun that said something like: "do not act like you don't know what to do" and i was like: what the fuck is that supposed to mean? and she told me it means "what you think it means" and that there's worse out there.

it's just tasteless and disgusting. the scandal and jonghyun's passing do not ... overlap at all so the fact that some people are trying to use it as a way to guilt jinki even further is awful.

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

that is...infuriating isn't even a word that captures what it is that that is. I can only hope that whichever netizens are saying that are being down voted to hell and back.

tbqh when my friend texted me on Monday morning telling me one of SHINee had died of suicide, my mind immediately went to Onew, given the scandal + his history of depression + netizens' commentary. I can't actually believe those people, people who want members to kill themselves, are shawols or even decent human beings in any way, shape or form. And you're absolutely right that these two events have nothing to do with each other. I don't think SM is prohibiting their idols from getting mental health assistance, and in fact think that Jonghyun showed us pretty concrete evidence that it was actively being made accessible to them (although unfortunately his specific doctor was a fucking quack). I hope they ramp that up one step further and insist that Onew gets some + any counseling he might need re: substance abuse, especially in the wake of this, and that he's armed with the tools he needs to ignore any idiots voicing their shit opinions anonymously from some PC Bang somewhere.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

everyone has always had their worries about jinki. like it's not just you or me. my good friend is jinki biased and she told me that she was terrified that he'd do something after people started to tear into him in the last month and she's still terrified that he'll end up seeing something awful and believe that what's being said is true. no one can keep him from going on the internet but it'd be in his best interest to avoid it for awhile, tbh.

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

Do people not understand that attacking Onew now isn't going to change anything

I was definitely one of the people who wanted him to sit out the next comeback and go to the military, but attacking him on social media has nothing to do with respect to the victim of the incident, they're just hiding behind their screen names being malicious.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

yeah. like i understand if people aren't comfortable with him now and i'd never belittle their feelings on what happened but there's a difference between being critical and bullying / being malicious and there's a lot of people (knetz, antis, akgaes, trolls) who've crossed that line in korea.

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

It's just an excuse. People who always hated him now have an "excuse" to let lose, regardless that he's probably going through some of the worst pain he's ever felt. He's a person.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

right? i think people still forget that at the end of the day: idols are still people and before being a ~celebrity~ he's human being who grieves the same as all of us. and it must be awful having to grieve in the spotlight while under such heavy scrutiny.

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

iawtc

I am and always have been an Onew stan, but I also was critical of him in regards to that scandal, and I think there is a productive way to voice disagreement with people's actions that, like you said, respect the victim of the incident and put the onus on the individual who committed the wrongdoing (accidentally or otherwise) to be the agent of change.

Whatever it is that these trolls are trying to achieve isn't borne of trying to change misogyny in Korea, or trying to encourage Onew into some kind of substance abuse program. It's pure maliciousness that comes from something really disgusting that's more deep seeded than dislike of a particular idol.

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

Exactly.