sm to respect the decision of shinee members regarding upcoming dome concerts in japan

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

SHINee Japanese homepage announcment says the status of SHINee’s ‘'SHINee WORLD THE BEST 2018~FROM NOW ON~’ concerts in February will be determined after discussions with the members and the staff.https://t.co/SxdobpmECN pic.twitter.com/uPmyjGlDnJ

— mes #TeamPinky (@OH_mes) December 24, 2017

for those unaware: shinee is slated to hold a small series of dome concerts in february. the concerts were set up in a way to visibly celebrate their past five tours and albums in japan, and possibly serve as their final dome concerts before onew's enlistment. shinee world japan, their japanese fan club, released a similar statement late on the 23rd and this seemed to be the follow up by sm. speculation is that the statement was released because registration for fan club lottery ticketing was meant to come to a close yesterday.

source(s): oh_mes (via naver)

this one is ... rough and i have some feelings on it that i'll save to post in an actual comment.

Comments

[nekokonneko.livejournal.com]

damn, i could see why they would want to do it and why they wouldn't want to do it in equal measure. i just hope there's a clear consensus among them.

[gathyou.livejournal.com]

Well, leaving the decision to the members and the staff who were working directly with Jonghyun is the best they could do... I hope they're doing as well as they could in this situation :(

[torontok.livejournal.com]

Beyond the fact that February seems like way too short of a time for them to be emotionally ready to perform as 4, it's going to take them a lot of time to re-arrange choreos for four people. they could have a backup dancer fill in I guess. Plus would they take Jonghyun's parts? Let them play recorded?

IDK.I hope they do what feels right for them.

[mjspice.livejournal.com]

Dang.

[haymitch.livejournal.com]

i have no idea what they could do. jonghyun’s voice was such an integral part of their music... i cant imagine them feeling at ease taking up the task of covering his parts. i think the fans need to respect any decision that comes out of the discussions. i understand why the dome concerts are important, but these men have been through so much.

[dreamer-easy.livejournal.com]

I think that's so important - for fans to respect their decision and remain supportive, however SHINee chooses to go forward.

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

OP what did you want to say in a comment?

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

i spaced out after this was accepted but, basically: if they want to go through with this i'll respect their decision and support them with everything i can. and i can understand why they would feel like working could help them out (considering that taemin is apparently performing at kbs gayo on the 29th) but i personally? feel like if they're going back into work soon it'd be safer for them mentally if it were solo work. minho has been filming that kim jee woon movie since summer and he probably has to get back to it soon (if he hasn't already), taemin has to continue on with the unit, etc.

like haymitch said above: jonghyun's voice was such an integral part of their music and it's not like this is just two or three years of music that we're talking about. it's ten years. hundreds of songs between both japan and korea. in order to go forward with this concert they'd either have: split up his lines between the other members or perform to an audio recording of his voice. and i can't imagine they'd be ready for that so soon? if ever? it'd just be a constant reminder and i know they're all strong but a person can only take so much. they'd also need to perform almost every song that uses choreo with a back up dancer in his place - specifically get the treasure which legitimately has a part of the choreo looped around "this is shinee five and we're right by your side". i just ... don't know. i want them to continue if they feel they need to but i also want them to do it for themselves (and the memory of jonghyun) and not for the sake of either shawols or sm because most shawols that i've spoken to have said they'd understand if they want to just ... go on indefinite hiatus from this point onward. they could barely handle performing without jinki at the dome concerts in september and this? is on another level.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

i spaced but lmao i commented below

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

Ugh, I truly want for them to continue (selfish as that is) because, being that Jonghyun stanned SHINee so much, I can't image he would want this event to mark the end of SHINee. That being said, I didn't know Jonghyun so that's pure speculation. I also don't understand the logistics of how a full out dome tour would work, at least at this moment. I get that working is therapeutic for a lot of people, but like everyone else said...how do you pull off Everybody choreo, or Get the Treasure, or even Sherlock with only 4 people? And wouldn't it be insensitive to fill in his place with a backup dancer so soon?

I would love to see them doing something that's therapeutic for themselves (if that's what they want) and act as a memorial, like an acoustic tour or something (with the advantage that they wouldn't have to worry about choreo) but idk man. I definitely think there are ways to come back in a tactful / respectful / therapeutic way, but like everyone else is saying, there has to be a consensus and it has to be what they want.

I've even debated what would happen if they underwent a slight name change and started performing at 4hinee, and then I got mad at myself because 4hinee sounds a lot like SHINee when you say it in sino-korean, and 4hinee ISN'T SHINee and at this point I think I'm just going low key crazy.

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

mte [2]

[glider.livejournal.com]

I've felt since the moment the news broke that there was little-to-no possibility of SHINee continuing. maybe I'm just a pessimist but as everyone else said, this is about ten years worth of music and they were a very tightly knit unit, and the nature of the tragedy just seems like it'd make performing as four too painful. I'm surprised they could even consider moving forward with the concerts but I guess if there's a will...

(also I never aired out my feelings in other posts but I wish for peace to come to Jjong's family, friends, and fans. it's hard for me to put my thoughts into words; I'm not a Shawol or anything but I always thought he seemed like a nice person and a great artist. I was completely shocked when I heard the news and it's still hard to believe. RIP.)

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

I agree solo work might make more sense than group work right now. I can't imagine the logistics of the dome tour right now. Playing a voice recording just seems like an invitation to misery.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

"playing a voice recording just seems like an invitation to misery." mte? and it'd be awful because, knowing them, they'd try their hardest to make it seem like they're okay and they don't owe anything like that to us. like honestly??? imo? all they owe to us right now is listening to what we're saying, re: wanting them to take their time. like... if they wanna do one thing fans are asking them it should be that.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

personally? from what we knew about jonghyun i feel like he wouldn't want them to pause their lives for him but he was also one who said: "i don't think that'll happen unless we're physically separated" when asked about whether the members would ever "disperse" last year, so. :c it's always been: "we'll be together unless we're not physically able to" with them and i figure they never really... thought that would happen.

i already said that if they wanna do it i support them but i want them to take it easy. if they want to wait until even their anniversary to do something - that can double as a memorial or tribute - it'd be more understandable. february is just so soon.

[lightframes.livejournal.com]

Right. They shouldn't do anything just because they think we want it. If their heart isn't in it we'll know and it's not worth it. Plus I don't want them to be like... permanently traumatized by coming back too soon.

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

exactly. plus if they did they wouldn't just be dealing with the obvious but they'd have to be in front of 55,000+ heartbroken shawols and that's a lot... of sadness to have to face so soon after.

[mewaqua1.livejournal.com]

like everything this week i have mixed feelings about this too, like shinee won't ever be what it was (musically, group dynamics, choreo/preformances etc) they are so based on being those 5 individuals together (i mean...their last album Five....with GTT fricking "we are shinee 5" lyrics) however do i want it to end? no, hell no, they are my everything, that's a heartbreak my weakened heart can't handle even thinking about yet and i don't think jonghyun would have wanted that either however the matter is (as it should be) in the remaining members hands and i will respect their choice, i personally think they should leave the domes for other time and change up the comeback/10th anniversary concerts (to do jpn domes after kr swc6) if they want to continue as SHINee so they will have first more time to heal, to think, to discuss and than decide, will not judge them or anything if they do domes in feb, just makes me too concerned about their health, mostly their mental state, they would be 24/7 confronted with the fact of jonghyun's passing which doesn't help the process of mourning usually and feel so stressed on top of changing everything/making it work for 4, being scared af probably what the reactions of the fans will be (they can't please everyone, some might want them to keep jonghyun's vocals, others would find it too confronting etc)

i would feel better if they first took real time to think and not just a few weeks, but like 2-3 months really (despite that the fact that my spoiled af shawol ass will be bored with nothing of SHINee updates as they are my safe heaven, the people i escaped to for many years when real life got too hard, make me laugh, bring almost consistent happiness to my life etc) and also focus on solo work (not only for their own sake but it helps with them personally realising "do i want to continue with SHINee, do i feel the need to be with my group, do i want to go solo forever from now on, etc")

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

I hear you + agree on all fronts. Previously, I would have taken that statement to allude to activity while others are in the military maybe, but these events put a whole new spin on things. The statement itself reads to me like they'd always be together and especially Jonghyun wouldn't be willing to move forward if one member wanted to leave; it'd have been all or nothing in that circumstance. Like I don't think OT4 SHINee would have existed had Onew left because of all that unfolded in August. But this is such a different and unprecedented event...?

And yeah, February is incredibly soon. You posted above that "if they listen to Shawols ever, let it be just this once as we say 'take the time you need,'" and mte. I'm also curious as to how this is going to affect things like enlistment and solo activity. On top of them taking the time they need prior to group performances, I also hope they take whatever time they need before acting / solo albums and especially before enlistment. I can't fathom there's anything less conducive to a healthy grieving period than being thrust into the military.

[psharp10.livejournal.com]

ia that it should be solo work if they want to continue with their schedules

not only is jonghyun's voice integral and that it'd be hundreds of songs + choreos, but it's also that to even incorporate that many changes for a tour that's barely two months away, they'd have to practice so much and that in itself, aside from the logistics, will be so exhausting - both mentally and physically and i just want them all to be able to get enough time to mourn and grieve properly, to find their footing and slowly work towards achieving at least a somewhat stable happiness, if that's possible. and as much as i'd support and respect their decision either way, i really just want them, like you said, to do it for themselves and jonghyun in the end, not for whatever nonexistent duty to the fans they may feel they have

[stephantasm.livejournal.com]

Agree with everything you said. February is no time... And i dont know if this sounds... Bad or whatever but onew really looked like he wasnt taking care of himself for a while... I just need sme to keep their eye and resources on their idols from now on. Invest in a counseling office that understands the needs of their clients, etc. Shinee have always been trendols, make mental health the trend for these other agencies, too.

[evilcoc0nut.livejournal.com]

Love

[ty.livejournal.com]

I send them love as they try to make this most difficult of decisions. I know they will have consider themselves, the fans, families and so on. No matter what they decide, they have my love

[byeolbyeol.livejournal.com]

that's how i feel too? a part of me was pretty sure that if jinki had decided to leave the group after his scandal they would've went on indefinite hiatus. but this? yeah. it's a lot more tragic and complicated. plus shinee are so heavily ot5 biased and i can't find it in my heart, as selfish as it may sound, for it not to be that way. not just because jonghyun is my ult bias but because ot5 has always meant so much to me. i know it's always been the same for the rest of fandom and the members themselves as well. fandom has always been so protective and proud of their bond and they're stressing wanting to preserve that even after losing him which i'm all for. it also doesn't help that their ending note with him was all "five, five, five": their last korean album was their fifth, their last japanese album was their fifth (and named five), their last swc tour was their fifth, their last japanese tour was their fifth (also named five).

"i can't fathom there's anything less conducive to a healthy grieving period than being thrust into the military". that's where my head is. kibum and minho can hold off on their enlisting for another three years if they really want to, and taemin for even longer, but jinki can't hold off for longer than another year and i don't think he's in the safest head space right now to jump right into enlistment, not with some of the horror stories i've heard in regards to treatment there (especially regarding mental health). i'm not even talking solely in relation to jonghyun's passing either but everything he's went through with his scandal and how netizens are still treating him (and have started up again in the last day or so) idk. a part of me almost wants him to take the time he has before enlisting to stay out of the spotlight, wind down, relax.

[chomsky.livejournal.com]

jfc are you serious they're back on that shit? I can't believe netizens are starting up again literally not even a week since this all went down.

Like I understand not brushing issues under the table and not condoning anything that happened in the scandal, but what kind of damage are people trying to cause? On the heels of an event that shows us, more than anything, that we know nothing about the idols we love / the illnesses they deal with and simultaneously that they do read everything we say and take it to heart?