[TRANS] Onew Instagram post
— โ (@omggminho) December 22, 2017
It doesnโt matter who you are and what you do but please remember this one thing. Someone loves you more than you love yourself I will cheer you on, I love you.
*Do not retranslate pic.twitter.com/q0kRFG90Q7
how can they be this cute every day ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ pic.twitter.com/PScP0Kz0l2
— ๐ (@jongyupics) October 8, 2016
source(s): @dlstmxkakwldrl / @jongyupics / @omggminho
i know it was added into the last post but i figured it deserved it's own, given that kibum's letter wasn't able to have it's own.
i know it was added into the last post but i figured it deserved it's own, given that kibum's letter wasn't able to have it's own.
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Date: 2017-12-23 04:05 am (UTC)but im glad he did it .... for the worst reason i could ever imagine *sight*
omg i just wan them to be okay
how to know if taemin and minho are doing okay?
minho bro is still active on sns or ...
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Date: 2017-12-23 04:14 am (UTC)Short, but beautiful.
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Date: 2017-12-23 05:37 am (UTC)I hope he and the members are taking care of each other, they definitely need one another.
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Date: 2017-12-23 06:45 am (UTC)โคโค
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Date: 2017-12-23 08:46 am (UTC)ah this is soo sad :( praying that they have loved ones beside them who are caring for them right now thru all of this.
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Date: 2017-12-23 10:13 am (UTC)this is an important message for everyone to remember too, I think
I hope he's okay. I would hate for anyone to be invasive or anything during their mourning time, but at the same time I really want to know that taemin and minho are okay ๐
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Date: 2017-12-23 11:45 am (UTC)i hope he is doing better and i love him, all of them, so much
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Date: 2017-12-23 07:40 pm (UTC)I do think this has reminded me that we truly don't know everything, we truly don't know what anyone is doing and we truly don't know what anyone is feeling, and Onew has definitely suffered in that light. Though I was and still am disappointed he was in that situation to begin with, it doesn't change he the sentiment that I hope that they only find safe comfort, become better, and live more contently..
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Date: 2017-12-23 11:28 pm (UTC)I agree that there is a lot we do not know - we all knew Jonghyun had suffered for a long time with depression, but I don't think any one of us knew that things were as bad as they must have been. this is why I struggle to fully turn my back on Onew - I have turned my back on many people both in kpop and in real life for far less - but as somebody who has dealt with depression since summer 2001 (I remember the very morning in May that triggered it), I find it hard to hate them. don't mistake what I'm saying for defending him, I'm not. it is and will always remain indefensible, though we can only guess at what led to that situation - is he really a pos? or would a different drinking culture and better mental health treatment have led to a different outcome?
I've said in another comment here that I have been very close to doing what Jonghyun did, so I can not and will not ever be upset at him, but I feel like I should also extend that same restraint to the people around him, regardless of how much I like them. I feel a sense of guilt that I couldn't do anything and I've never even met him. I can't hate people for failing in the same way I have even though they had something of a chance to do better. I can't use this against them.
I just need something good to come of this. whatever that might be, I just need it. I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm very very drunk very very emotional right now.
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Date: 2017-12-24 12:39 am (UTC)You're right, his actions shouldn't be defended or glossed over. But knowing the reasons why an incident happened isn't the same as excusing an incident for having ever happened. Addressing, discussing and seeking help for one's reasons will help them.
I feel very personal about this, though... I was friends with someone incredibly abusive.. they didn't understand what they were being. They mutilated and scared me and I'm still suffering the consequences from their actions..
but what they did was all they knew. That's how they were taught, that's what he experienced and no one told them otherwise. I shouldn't have empathy... but if someone helped him, he wouldn't be what he turned out to be. I've been helping him, going to therapy with him since...
Maybe it's the same for others too. I don't know, and I won't ever know... But Jonghyun was a very sore reminder. I don't know what is and isn't okay. I just know I don't want this to repeat itself.
You said it best... something good just needs to come. I think many of us feel that way.
Also, please be safe while drinking!
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Date: 2018-01-19 04:22 pm (UTC)I know how you feel though, knowing somebody who treats you with disrespect, somebody who manipulates you. you're a much kinder and stronger person than I am, to be willing to stay and help them after all they've done. I do find it hard to forgive people though and I can't say I would be able to greet them with anything less than a right hook if I ever saw them again.
idk, I'm sober this time but this comment is still going nowhere. I just hope everybody is okay.
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Date: 2017-12-24 04:13 am (UTC)I was ready to write Onew off ever since the incident, but I've found my heart and soul to be in total shambles this week. There are so many conflicting thoughts that I don't know what or how to feel anymore except numb. What he did disappointed so much that now I find myself worrying for him the most. I just need him to be okay. I need them to be okay... I don't think I'll be able to take it otherwise.
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Date: 2018-01-19 04:30 pm (UTC)I feel like a lot of people have written him off and I don't blame them, at all. I won't tell them their feelings are wrong either, just because I've felt differently. I can't say that I've forgiven him either because he hasn't done anything to warrant it as far as I can see. I still want him to be okay. this isn't to say I have forgotten about the woman that he hurt, because I haven't. I have been in her position many times and it is awful. I guess I just don't want anyone to suffer anymore, whatever that means.
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Date: 2018-01-19 03:58 pm (UTC)what exactly are you struggling with?
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Date: 2018-08-18 03:02 pm (UTC)I'm sorry you've experienced such things, but I can not for the life of me understand how you think it is possibly okay to ever dismiss the experiences of another person. who cares if she chose to dance on a table? in what universe, in what situation does that give anybody any permission to touch her at all?
that said, I like that you point out idols have to always show their best side but then immediately follow up with the suggestion that it's hard to keep up such an act for a long time but that he's actually really a good guy deep down. so which is it, is he really a good person or was that all an act that had you fooled? a tip: good guys do not grope people, not when they're sober or when they're drunk.
you wanna keep excusing his indefensible behaviour, that's on you and so is your choice to blame the victim and not him but idk where you get off coming for people who think what he did was wrong.
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Date: 2017-12-23 02:47 pm (UTC)and op thank you so much for all the updates, here and on fyjjong, i've been following them closely but i also hope you are taking time to process everything and that you have people you can talk to you and comfort you!
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