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i know it was added into the last post but i figured it deserved it's own, given that kibum's letter wasn't able to have it's own.

Date: 2017-12-23 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mearii87.livejournal.com
this just.....this just stabs me. god. i hope they're all together, giving each other warm hugs and wiping away each other's tears :(

Date: 2017-12-23 02:04 am (UTC)
ext_94855: (i'll be your song (your quiet music))
From: [identity profile] arhythmicpulse.livejournal.com
He said so little but it bears so much meaning. I teared up again. It has been difficult for him the last few months, plus heโ€™s depressed too. I hope he knows that he, too, is loved and supported.

Date: 2017-12-23 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephantasm.livejournal.com
I sighed deeply seeing this on my tlist... Onew looked really exhausted at his sending off... he hadn't even shaved. This week feels like it's confirmed so much for me and it hurts. Seeing how he even disappeared after that middle finger scandal, then this year's, then this week... I hope the people around him don't let him disappear within himself... And stop asking friends/family to just be strong or find strength but hold them up, too.

Date: 2017-12-23 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theharleyquinn.livejournal.com
My heart aches over this.

Date: 2017-12-23 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teokiseog.livejournal.com
...I just wanna give them all a strong hug.

Date: 2017-12-23 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsuyoi-hikari.livejournal.com
Simple and short yet says all the important thing. I hope he himself knows this too..

Date: 2017-12-23 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tree-star123.livejournal.com
this is so touching and makes my heart ache.

Date: 2017-12-23 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxhna.livejournal.com
i can feel that, what he said.

Date: 2017-12-23 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pearlychoco.livejournal.com
short and meaningful.

Date: 2017-12-23 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rally-pchan.livejournal.com
i'm glad he posted something

Date: 2017-12-23 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lycorisc.livejournal.com
I hope he remembers that somebody loves him more than he loves himself too. He and the other boys are having a hard time so I appreciate his post.

Date: 2017-12-23 04:05 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-12-23 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sra-interesante.livejournal.com
after his scandal i wasnt expecting him to show up ever again on sns

but im glad he did it .... for the worst reason i could ever imagine *sight*


omg i just wan them to be okay
how to know if taemin and minho are doing okay?
minho bro is still active on sns or ...
Edited Date: 2017-12-23 04:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-12-23 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuto.livejournal.com
just reiterating what everyone's said, i hope he knows that himself too. it made my heart ache a little, it was a nice. i hope him and the rest of the members are doing okay and are there for each other.

Date: 2017-12-23 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zionarmin.livejournal.com
Even in this situation he's thinking of others. Ah, Jinki.
Short, but beautiful.

Date: 2017-12-23 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jinkiestabi.livejournal.com
Itโ€™s been hours and I still feel incredibly saddened by this message.

I hope he and the members are taking care of each other, they definitely need one another.

Date: 2017-12-23 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com
i saw the vid where they send him off. and it's so heartbreaking that key can't even stop his tears anymore and he leaned on onew. and it must've been hard for all of them, but onew still tried to comfort key. and minho and taem also tried to be so strong. it's heartbreaking.

Date: 2017-12-23 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jyouzebin.livejournal.com

โคโค

Date: 2017-12-23 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minho-lover.livejournal.com

ah this is soo sad :( praying that they have loved ones beside them who are caring for them right now thru all of this.

Date: 2017-12-23 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_clochette_/
I can't imagine how blindsided the four of them must be about this

this is an important message for everyone to remember too, I think

I hope he's okay. I would hate for anyone to be invasive or anything during their mourning time, but at the same time I really want to know that taemin and minho are okay ๐Ÿ’”

Date: 2017-12-23 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digitalqueen.livejournal.com
as with kibum's letter, idk if this is comforting or making me feel worst. it feels like acceptance and im not ready to do that yet.

i hope he is doing better and i love him, all of them, so much

Date: 2017-12-23 11:54 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-12-23 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com
even though I lost a lot of respect for onew this year with everything that has happened, I still found myself worrying about him a lot this week. maybe it's because he has suffered with his own problems for a long time now, idk. I really hope he gets the chance to deal with his problems in a better, safer way in future. ah his message was so heartfelt, I hope we're all able to take such words to heart, including him.

Date: 2017-12-23 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noonabites.livejournal.com
I'm glad you were honest in this comment.

I do think this has reminded me that we truly don't know everything, we truly don't know what anyone is doing and we truly don't know what anyone is feeling, and Onew has definitely suffered in that light. Though I was and still am disappointed he was in that situation to begin with, it doesn't change he the sentiment that I hope that they only find safe comfort, become better, and live more contently..

Date: 2017-12-23 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com
I've had a lot of feelings about my feelings towards onew this week, though I haven't spent a great deal of time trying to unpack it. there are more than a couple of people at SM that I don't like very much, but despite that I would never wish such pain on them. I'm not known for forgiving people easily, but this was so sudden, and to many people I have been fond of for close to a decade now but I can't help but feel sorrow for all of them.

I agree that there is a lot we do not know - we all knew Jonghyun had suffered for a long time with depression, but I don't think any one of us knew that things were as bad as they must have been. this is why I struggle to fully turn my back on Onew - I have turned my back on many people both in kpop and in real life for far less - but as somebody who has dealt with depression since summer 2001 (I remember the very morning in May that triggered it), I find it hard to hate them. don't mistake what I'm saying for defending him, I'm not. it is and will always remain indefensible, though we can only guess at what led to that situation - is he really a pos? or would a different drinking culture and better mental health treatment have led to a different outcome?

I've said in another comment here that I have been very close to doing what Jonghyun did, so I can not and will not ever be upset at him, but I feel like I should also extend that same restraint to the people around him, regardless of how much I like them. I feel a sense of guilt that I couldn't do anything and I've never even met him. I can't hate people for failing in the same way I have even though they had something of a chance to do better. I can't use this against them.

I just need something good to come of this. whatever that might be, I just need it. I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm very very drunk very very emotional right now.

Date: 2017-12-24 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noonabites.livejournal.com
It makes perfect sense, honestly.

You're right, his actions shouldn't be defended or glossed over. But knowing the reasons why an incident happened isn't the same as excusing an incident for having ever happened. Addressing, discussing and seeking help for one's reasons will help them.

I feel very personal about this, though... I was friends with someone incredibly abusive.. they didn't understand what they were being. They mutilated and scared me and I'm still suffering the consequences from their actions..

but what they did was all they knew. That's how they were taught, that's what he experienced and no one told them otherwise. I shouldn't have empathy... but if someone helped him, he wouldn't be what he turned out to be. I've been helping him, going to therapy with him since...

Maybe it's the same for others too. I don't know, and I won't ever know... But Jonghyun was a very sore reminder. I don't know what is and isn't okay. I just know I don't want this to repeat itself.

You said it best... something good just needs to come. I think many of us feel that way.

Also, please be safe while drinking!

Date: 2018-01-19 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com
I'm so sorry I missed this comment! I haven't been active on lj the past few weeks for a variety of reasons so I totally missed this comment. I didn't get too drunk over the holidays though. half a bottle of cava on xmas day and between then and last week I had 3/4 of a bottle of salt caramel vodka. no hangovers!

I know how you feel though, knowing somebody who treats you with disrespect, somebody who manipulates you. you're a much kinder and stronger person than I am, to be willing to stay and help them after all they've done. I do find it hard to forgive people though and I can't say I would be able to greet them with anything less than a right hook if I ever saw them again.

idk, I'm sober this time but this comment is still going nowhere. I just hope everybody is okay.

Date: 2017-12-24 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jillyjellly.livejournal.com
I just need something good to come of this.

I was ready to write Onew off ever since the incident, but I've found my heart and soul to be in total shambles this week. There are so many conflicting thoughts that I don't know what or how to feel anymore except numb. What he did disappointed so much that now I find myself worrying for him the most. I just need him to be okay. I need them to be okay... I don't think I'll be able to take it otherwise.

Date: 2018-01-19 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com
sorry this is so late! I haven't been active on lj for a while, so I didn't realise I got this reply.

I feel like a lot of people have written him off and I don't blame them, at all. I won't tell them their feelings are wrong either, just because I've felt differently. I can't say that I've forgiven him either because he hasn't done anything to warrant it as far as I can see. I still want him to be okay. this isn't to say I have forgotten about the woman that he hurt, because I haven't. I have been in her position many times and it is awful. I guess I just don't want anyone to suffer anymore, whatever that means.

Date: 2018-01-19 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com
???

what exactly are you struggling with?
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Date: 2018-08-18 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com
I honestly don't know how you just see a reply, 8 months after the fact but I'll let that go. I had planned on ignoring your initial comment but thanks to your repeat edits it wasn't so easy so I'll bite. I'm 30 years old and I have been a shinee fan since around debut, though onew was never my favourite.

I'm sorry you've experienced such things, but I can not for the life of me understand how you think it is possibly okay to ever dismiss the experiences of another person. who cares if she chose to dance on a table? in what universe, in what situation does that give anybody any permission to touch her at all?

that said, I like that you point out idols have to always show their best side but then immediately follow up with the suggestion that it's hard to keep up such an act for a long time but that he's actually really a good guy deep down. so which is it, is he really a good person or was that all an act that had you fooled? a tip: good guys do not grope people, not when they're sober or when they're drunk.

you wanna keep excusing his indefensible behaviour, that's on you and so is your choice to blame the victim and not him but idk where you get off coming for people who think what he did was wrong.

Date: 2017-12-23 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mewaqua1.livejournal.com
i'm really grateful towards both key and onew for their words, they both helped me with accepting and give the events a place in my mind even if i'm still in disbelief that this is reality and their words made me feel less guilty myself too however i do hope with whole my heart they also take their own words to heart and not blame themselves or stop living their lives to the fullest, that being said i will support the boys to the end <3

and op thank you so much for all the updates, here and on fyjjong, i've been following them closely but i also hope you are taking time to process everything and that you have people you can talk to you and comfort you!

Date: 2017-12-24 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lightframes.livejournal.com
It's a sweet message.

Date: 2017-12-24 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] modestgoddess79.livejournal.com
I can't imagine the kind of pain Jonghyun's friends and family must be in.

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