OMONA THEY DID(N&#39;T)!

I absolutely loved episodes 1-14. Sure, there were little bits that bothered me here and there (Sanggu being an asshole to Sooji, Jihyo's passive aggressive revenge trips on Sehee when he didn't immediately return her feelings, everything Horang did in regards to Wonseok), but overall I thought the show was lovely and thoughtful and surprisingly touching. Cue this week where they tossed all of that out the window. I have found Jiho a little opaque before but I have literally no idea why she did any of the things she did in these last two episodes. If she wanted more communication from Sehee, why didn't she just fucking say that instead of dumping him, disappearing, reappearing, pretending she didn't know why he was upset and laughing while he cried? Literally all he needed was someone to tell him that it's okay to have and express feelings that might be inconvenient for someone else to hear so this was unnecessarily cruel by an order of magnitude. Several probably. At the end of last week, all I wanted was Sehee and Jiho back together again but it never even occurred to me that the show would do it in such a way that I wouldn't even want it anymore. This utterly ruined both their relationship and the show for me. I was livid. I have legitimately never seen a show shit the bed this hard so close to the end and after having been otherwise so good. It is flabbergasting and I genuinely would rather have not watched the show at all.

So that's my biggest complaint but here are the smaller ones for good measure. Why did Jiho not sign the contract with Jungmin despite how obviously well they got on and everyone establishing that, you know, actually we're grown ups and it's fine? She keeps saying that it wasn't because of Sehee and Jungmin's past so then the reason is????

Horang and Wonseok got back together despite still being very wrong for each other and learning nothing.
Horang: Let's get back together!
Wonseok: Okay.
Horang: Great, I already told your mother.
Me: ....

Bomi deserved better frankly. As did the concept of time which the show disregarded just as much as it did ethical behavior in relationships.

Basically the only thing I liked in the finale was Sooji quitting her job and apparently making it big with her bra idea, which happened mostly offscreen because this finale was not about good things. (Though let's be real, Sooji should have dumped Sanggu after he followed her home and staked out her parking garage all night so he could force introduce himself to her mom.) Oh, and the white woman Jiho talked to at the hostel or whatever she was living at while she was "travelling" is the same woman that made out with Siwan in The Merciless and then made a vlog about it. She seems nice. Good for her but fuck this show.

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Oh and also fuck Jiho for suddenly getting (pretending to be?) jealous over Sehee talking to Jungmin as if it's somehow unreasonable for the two people she flaked out on to talk to each other wondering what the hell happened to her.

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- literally episode 15 / 16 is me shouting "CHILDREN, USE YOUR WORDS" and idt that's an unreasonable expectation considering 1-14 this show was trying to show that communication is key, otherwise you end up like HR x WS, but nope threw that out of the window.

- HR x WS are two people that absolutely should NOT end up together. and lbr, if this was real life, he would've married the next girl and shacked up with her within a month of breaking up (i've seen it happen. men are a mess). and mte to that "i told your mother!" bit like .........

- i don't understand JH's "i choose love" (i had to read dramabeans recap cos i was scratching my head and i still don't get it). WHEN. HOW. you didn't choose anything you just walked around insadong and how exactly did that job contract hinder your love SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME (actually don't bother, fuck it)

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I forget where I read it (either Soompi or Reddit) and someone was saying that Jiho's "intermission" in episode 15 was basically telling Sehee she wanted a break, and it was supposed to mean she wanted to resume the relationship later on. Which to me was ??? because Sehee obviously didn't get that and thought she was leaving for good, fell into depression and nearly drank himself to death. For a drama that's supposedly about mature, adult relationships they sure fell back into that kdrama cliche hole where people pretend to be oblivious, get jealous and grabby because being like that is cute and means you're in love.

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The beer needed to stop like why was he drinking in the morning. He was descending into alcoholism and no, writer, that was a cheap move and frankly gross to trivialize that

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woman that made out with Siwan in The Merciless and then made a vlog about it

do you have a link ??

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I found it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo73azTA2PU

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thank you very much!!!!

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I was rolling my eyes so much in episode 15. I couldnt stand all the slow and pretentious dialogs between Jiho and the other characters. There is a thin line between being deep and pretentious. And imho, the somehow ~poetic storyline~ in the drama screamed being over the top and ridiculous. I dont mind if the "noble idiocy" makes sense but the writer chose a really wrong plot for the big finale as that plotline make Jiho to appear manipulative, insensitive and selfish.

Just like how kdramas writers like to romanticise violent, this one did it to other level which is romanticise emotional torture. I find it very problematic and the fact that many people feel the story is profound and deep, it just make me feel really uncomfortable on how they try to justify it. Other than that, the destructive behaviour of Jiho in romanticising metaphor of a story about a woman who ended up committing suicide is just.... Its not a kind of novel that I would let anyone read to find inspiration and using it in their life.

I have many problem with the inconsistencies of the script as well but I guess I just stop here. The drama went from B to E in the final 2 episodes for me. The fact that Sehee just let Jiho waltz into his life again after what she did to him is just ???! >.>

Edited Date: 2017-12-01 04:42 pm (UTC)

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I'm disappointed... to say the least. These last two episodes ruined what was a really good drama for me. I won't be recommending it to anyone.

I'm very annoyed that the writers decided to give us an actual timeline of events, cause it literally tells us that this whole drama happened in a span of a month. A MONTH! Here's a transcription. (http://koamingo.tumblr.com/post/167741911367/for-those-who-were-curious-about-the-details-of) It's pretty insane, and I couldn't stop thinking about it the whole time while watching.. They kissed, had one date, then got divorced. tf. Also, Jiho didn't even wait a day to start crossing boundaries.. I was kind of ignoring some people's comments about Jiho's personality earlier on in the discussion posts, I didn't want to dislike her for how she was acting when Sehee wasn't reciprocating her feelings despite them writing and signing a clear contract about this fake marriage having real boundaries.. but yeah, that should've been a sign. I don't get the point of her leaving for her break, and why the writers decided to shoehorn that whole plot into the last two episodes only to have them get back together so easily as if that wasn't a hugely shitty thing for her to do. Jiho is selfish and manipulative. She could've told Sehee what she told literally everyone else, that the divorce didn't mean she didn't love him, but no.. she decided leaving w/o actually talking things out was better. Fuck that.

Other things:
- lol bye at Horang and Wonseok getting back together, and then Horang revealing immediately that she'd already called Wonseok's mom to tell her that they'll be living with her and bringing out her 5 year engagement plan.. whatever she's crazy and he's an idiot. and i don't care about them enough anymore to be mad.
- I'm happy for Sooji and her successful career! Possibly the only good thing about these eps. I loved the scene of her on the motorcycle. <3
- I can't believe the only time we got to see Jiho and Sehee actually really smile at each other was in the finale.. It's annoying to me, that we never got to see them be their real selves throughout this, and that giving that to us at the very last minute felt out of character.
- There's no way in hell Sehee would've put Jiho down as "mine <3" on his phone. i refuse to believe it. that was annoying.
- Why did Jiho not sign with Jungmin? After having Jungmin go through all that trouble of helping out with the sexual harassment suit and having her open up her deeply emotionally painful past.. #wastehertime2017, i guess.
- How did Jiho's sister-in-law have a full term pregnancy in a month?
- I'll miss Kitty/Woori the most.

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-also, i remember in episode 13 in the very scene that is in my icon she said "it's not love yet" and she was ok but whoomp all of a sudden nah not ok. and that was like over a fucking day cos he asked her the next day if she wanted to sleep with him again.

-what @ SH saying she's his one and only love. this drama started with a grounded feeling despite the premise and managed to maintain that 1-14, but like one and only love?? i thought the point of JM was to make it different from other dramas and that love comes and goes and that's okay, you know that whole poetry shit they had over the narration. but i guess i misinterpreted that wrongly?? like i'm not mad if you weren't in love with JM, you just knocked her up. but oddly it made the story lost its sense of realism by making it seem like these two are each other's only loves. do i make sense? it's so cliche and completely diminishes the purpose of JM.

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You totally make sense! The last eps felt like watching a completely different show.. Like, the writers were doing so well subverting tropes and giving us interesting twists, I connected with it so much because it felt realistic. I don't know what happened there..

I hate the timeline. It makes the characters seem crazy. But the writers made sure to let us know it was legit, cause we saw Jiho with a dated list of her own of "things sehee said"...

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I hate how they just made JM disappear - it's like they're trying to say that you can never work with someone's ex because ~feelings~ get involved. Goddamn stupid and immature that's what it is.

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A month???????????????????????????

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A month. Jiho used her 2 weeks worth of wages from the cafe to fund her solo trip, which I wanna guess lasted like a week, maybe. The timeline is so stupid.

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I saw that transcription but chose to ignore it. It would've made more sense if it happened over 6 months to a year...

I totally forgot about the "mine <3" part, they made Sehee to be clingy as hell T_T

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Jiho had "My Man <3" in her phone.. it was so ooc. :((

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Idk wtf episode 15 & 16 were, did the writer fucking die

LMK really put in work with these two episodes (his Jo In Sung ugly crying aside). I’m too tired to even properly curse at the treatment of Ji Ho. IT’S NONSENSE. Frankly I don’t care to think abt it anymore.

Also wow they really snuck another shit hairstyle on him at the last hour, thanks for that. How did you even fuck up someone with that bone structure??

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I'm just gonna say I really enjoyed Sooji and the motorcycle scene, that was great, good for u girl
The rest was a let down.

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the only good thing the finale gave us

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Bless your soul for this gif.

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i was surprised to hear CL during this scene XD

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I feel really frustrated with Jiho's behavior these last 2 episodes. If her intention was to end her contract so they could get to know each other and date like a normal couple she should have told him that. She treated him like shit. Like he was so heart broken he sold his house and moved into that hovel.
What is the narrative point of them both renting the same apartment? Wasn't the whole Horang/Wonseok story line about the dangers of living together without a clear understanding of the future of the relationship? Did we just go throqh that lesson out the window so we can force Jiho and Seehee to live together again, why sell the house if they are going to immediately live together again, WTF writer!

Also I'm annoyed we got more scenes of them with the ex than of them together these last 4 episodes! Like yeah the ex is hot but if neither one of them are going to be with her does she need that much screen time?

And the fact that she is happy she made him cry?! Like wtf. And did we need that pointless scene of her talking to a foreigner? Is this what we chose to do with our limited screen time?!!!

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The foreigner scene was really the icing on the cake of the wtf-ery going on in this episode. It was like someone told the writer she had to include a foreigner somewhere.

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Can I just say how happy I am that we're mostly all in agreement about how terrible these episodes were? After I watched, I saw comment after comment on Tumblr, Twitter, Reddit etc about how amazing it was and best! drama! ever! and I was afraid that the discussion post would be the same way. I'm glad this post was delayed a while so I could get past my immediate anger (I got that out ranting to kristinl356 and showminomoney after the finale) and just move into a completely detached from this drama state. Ep 15 made zero sense and was just full of these long rambly conversations that I kept zoning out during, I ended that episode completely confused about everything and nothing in ep 16 made it better. The finale really ruined this drama for me.

Because WHAT WAS THAT. I was so mad. Nobody was making any sense, the timeline was a mess, I ended this show not wanting our lead couple together because of how emotionally manipulative she was. Waltzing back into his life like she didn't just ruin it? He had to sell the house he was planning on dying in because of the memories of her. And she leaves only some bullshit letter? Like, if you wanted to leave to find yourself but you still love him, TELL HIM THAT. She knew he was planning on "proposing" so it wasn't even a "I thought he didn't love me" situation. She left and broke him and then decided to pop back in just because? And laughed at him when he was crying?

Soo Ji on a motorcycle was the best part of the episode. Whatever @ everything else. Also, Kim Min Seok with a baby was cute if I ignored that it was supposed to be from that awful Won Seok/Ho Rang pairing. I really (stupidly) thought their phone call in ep 15 was great closure and they could both move on, but no, they decided this codependent relationship where they were both miserable was the best place to be, so I hope they're unhappy together always.

Good riddance, drama.

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Can I just say how happy I am that we're mostly all in agreement about how terrible these episodes were?

THIS.SO.MUCH.

i was scrambling to look for places to talk about the last two episodes but soompi users were just obsessed with shipping/sex scenes between the main couple and that one comment on reddit that said the ending was cliche was downvoted lmao.

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Girl soompi is... all on its own (if you’re reading this soompi whelp not sorry...)

They were trying so hard to justify it and I’m like can y’all take off the stan goggles. Apparently it’s not feminist to not support JH cos if it was SH that done that ppl would be okay with it. Lolllll no. Nice try.

I was waiting for this post so much cos I was thinking I’ve gone mad stupid for going “wtf is this???” so thanks for coming thru omona!

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it's my first time browsing soompi forums and people there are from a different universe. just sayin'. i guess there's a reason i don't watch many kdramas!

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Same at that phone call. I felt proud of the two dumbfucks. But then nope! They took that away from me!

Her conversations in ep 15 and 16 were bullshit like what mom said to her in the hospital. Was that the writer apologizing to us by calling herself out? Did a tvn exec forced her to write this? Blink twice for help writer-nim.

If she wanted to see emotions, the writer literally could just make her find out that SH BEAT UP A MAN THAT TRIED TO RAPE HER. But that storyline got dropped, she never found out and JM had to clean that up but then JM got discarded so??? Why??

I can’t believe people were okay that “well SH didn’t confess and she gave him so many chances!” well wtf is a man to do when his woman wanted to flounce. It made logical sense he shut down considering how he never wanted to stand in her way. That’s some manipulative shit that lacks maturity. Esp cos she knows. Dw I think he’s stupid too for not using his words but his stupidity made a bit more sense.

Like that stupid writer for Do Bong Soon wrote a better relationship than this writer in the last week. And Do Bong Soon was really fucking stupid (I love the actors tho sorry faves)

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Just...okay. Jiho was petty and selfish throughout the drama, but I kind of thought they were playing it for laughs or she'd have some self reflection toward the end. But then this? Nothing in the last two episodes made sense. If they'd had her divorce him because she realized she didn't know him enough to be married to him and then start a relationship, I would've been fine. But what she did was cruel, and she didn't even realize that at the end. Sehee should've walked away and found someone else.

Plus, Sehee seems like he's mostly a calm, detached sort of person. If it bothers Jiho that much that she needs to see him get upset, she's not going to have a good relationship with him.

And then Jiho getting jealous of Sehee/Jungmin when she had been acting so nice and grown up about Jungmin's history with Sehee. I hate jealousy-as-romantic in kdramas, but that really took the cake. (Not to mention the hypocrisy when Jiho's also sexually attracted to Jungmin, but I guess that was ~because she was horny for Sehee~ and not Jiho being canonically bi. Sigh.)

And where did she get the money for that trip around Seoul? Why didn't she move into a guest house in the first place?????

Idk. I got into this show expecting to be sad that the leads would inevitably turn out not to be asexual, not positively horrified. I might rec people up to episode 14, but these last two episodes are even worse than the average kdrama for healthy relationships. I don't know how they did that.

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Sehee seems like he's mostly a calm, detached sort of person

They turned Sehee into a cliche by the end. Apparently when all men are in love they get drunk, violent and grabby!

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Yeaaaaaah that.

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