OMONA THEY DID(N&#39;T)!

If that kiss is a dream sequence I will die. Seriously, I deserve an actual fucking kiss from this couple.

The one love talk was so sad and I hope they realize that even if you're lucky to find love even once in your life, that doesn't mean you can't find love more than once.

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Right, I'm so sure it's a dream seq. I don't want to get my hopes up

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Sadly I think you're right...there hasn't been enough emotional progression to justify him kissing her all of a sudden but goddamnit, I WANT IT SO BAD

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Se Hee's first marriage and getting thrown out of his house are definitely reated and it kind of makes me sad how Se Hee bristles against his Dad's treatment and yet has still sort of internalized a lot of his actions. Really realistic.

Kitty is a true star!! And yes that was so hilarious.

I think Won Seok and Ho Rang really need to be able to sit down and have a conversation. It's not that I think Won Seok was lying when he said he wanted to prove his worth before he proposed to her and realized now that it wasn't necessary... but I don't think he's being entirely honest. There's the responsibility aspect that he mentioned before that is definitely still a part of it and they need to talk about it before getting married.

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So, wow this drama is great.

I both like and dislike the BokName resolution... I think they explained a lot of his "stalker" behavior well but they just kind of erased his inappropriate actions and asked us to forget about them. Like, the way he was trying to get close to Ji Ho (like tying up her hair, dragging her around) was really annoying and I dislike that we are supposed to just forget about it now. I know he was probably trying to induce a reaction because of the whole contract thing, but that doesn't make it okay.

Oh god... Ho rang and Won Seok. I totally get where Ho Rang is coming from but it really shows how society pushes people into these huge life changes that they are just not ready for. Despite Won Seok's new job they can't afford a big wedding and HR... really needs to recognize that.

Sidenote: was anyone else like "ouch too real" when Won Seok received those messages from his former coworkers.

I cannot BELIEVE how into Su Ji and Sang gu I am but yeah episode 9 sealed it. I love how this isn't a subversion for comedy's sake? Like Sang gu can cry and confess and Su Ji can be the one to kiss him and it's wonderful because of how earnest it is.

I LOVED Ji Ho in episode 10 and I like how she's trying to show Se Hee that emotional labor is actually a thing in a way that makes a lot of sense.

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i still don't trust bok nam .... i don't like how the writers wrote his actions off... like it's as if they are telling us women that we can't trust our instincts screaming at us that some guy is a creep..

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I think the writer did not write him off, it just that he is only a pushy and inappropriate person but not some criminal who locks or rape people.

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I was so psyched that a show was portraying Bok Nam's pushy, "flirty" behavior as problematic but I guess we gotta walk that back now. On the other hand, yay for Ji Ho not being surrounded by rapists I guess?

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That preview...
The hand holding...

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That gif of Min Min is so accurate that was def me during the entire preview tbh lol, can't wait for next week's episodes!

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Can we talk about the fact that she basically told him she liked him and he gave her money?
Like that didn't sit well with me because
a. DID HE NOT HEAR HER
b. I found it a bit insulting and inconsiderate of him

The Boknam bit... wtf? Are we supposed to ignore he stalked them? like literally? just because he didn't assaulted her didn't change the fact that he is #problematic.

Horang... I understand where she's coming from but how can she be so selfish and stupid?
I have yet to see her so somethign for them as a couple. To me it looks like he's trying and giving up a lot but it's not reciprocated and that's not really how couple work. Maybe she did things for him/them before but it's not canon, I didn't see any of it.

Overall I'm inn love with the drama but I find it quite sad at times
But I still love it nonetheless

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The money thing was assholish on Se Hee's part, but I think at the same time Ji Ho was being a bit of an ass by telling him she likes him. He's made it clear that he doesn't feel that way about her (or at least doesn't realize that he does), and having a roommate who's in love with you is pretty uncomfortable to begin with, much less one who insists on making you aware of it when she knows you don't reciprocate.

But also yeah, why did we not get any sign that he even understood what she said? It was pretty obvious.

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I think she might be quite confused about Se Hee because there's a few times where his action don't match his words or can be misinterpreted by Ji Ho.
Se Hee's actions are not necessarily 'loaded' (? not sure about this word here) but with Ji Ho being a drama writer and all some of his action might come off as caring on a man/woman and not landlord/tenant level. They're not really friends so I can see how the 'hand holding' and 'rescuing' bits can make her misunderstand things.

Which is why I find it very interesting when she (in off voice) was talking about how communication is key and how expressing feeling is important.

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a. DID HE NOT HEAR HER

I'm actually realizing that there might be a translation issue here. The dramabeans recap today made it sound like Ji Ho was talking metaphorically in the third person.

"Disappointed, Ji-ho suddenly asks him if thatâs the only way he can interpret it, and says that it could also be about caring. Rather than animalistic desires, she explains how the behavior could come out of a desire to please the person one likes."

I also took a look at the soompi forums and they say the same thing, that she was saying it more metaphorically. So maybe it's a translation error.

Edited Date: 2017-11-09 09:08 pm (UTC)

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Oh could be...I read "maybe I wanted the person I like to feel good" or something so I thought it was pretty explicit but could be a translation issue

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I think it was mistranslation. Ji Ho is referring in a more 3rd person way, that other people serve their in-laws because they want the person they like to be happy. Of course, it can be taken as a confession, but Se Hee has come off as someone with low EQ and obviously would never read it like that

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I spent these whole two episodes just wanting to scream NO at my screen a lot.

I think the biggest thing was Bo Mi sexually harassing Won Seok on his first day on the job. Asking if he had a girlfriend was eh, not just leaving it there was a big no. I liked her!

Also no to Bok Nam being brushed off as okay because he's not the stalker in the news. His pushy behavior was not okay.

No to Ji Ho lying about her happy married life and then feeling happy to be included in the married lady club with the annoying women there. a) They're a pile of snakes and b) You're supposed to be getting a divorce in two years and then they'll ditch you, girl.

Ho Rang is just one big pile of no. I foresee her making a giant mess at work and then discovering that Won Seok hadn't thought about whether she'd keep working or not, because they still haven't figured out this communication business.

Whatever's going on with CEO Ma and Soo Ji is.....idek.

Ji Ho foisting her feelings on Se Hee when he's drawn a line, and she knows he doesn't reciprocate bugs me. Sure, his logic for drawing that line is gone, but slow down, girl. Yikes.

The only thing that made me really happy was her saying that monetary compensation for that in-law nightmare situation wasn't enough. That was some emotional labor she did.

At least Se Hee at the in laws' looks like it'll be hilarious, and I'm finally close to finishing this afghan I've been crocheting for the past two years with all these dramas I'm watching lately. So I'm not dropping the show, but I might be giving it a warning.

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"No to Ji Ho lying about her happy married life and then feeling happy to be included in the married lady club with the annoying women there. a) They're a pile of snakes and b) You're supposed to be getting a divorce in two years and then they'll ditch you, girl."

But Ji Ho actively pointed out how backwards her own feelings were? She was like "I'm a bit ashamed but even I felt good to fit in." Like, it's not as if the drama is portraying wanting to fit in with these women as a good thing, it's pointing out how screwed up it is.

I also don't think Ji Ho is really foisting her feelings on Se Hee, like she never even purposefully/properly confesses* It's just her emotions easily show all over her face. Though, I do think Ji Ho has an issue with taking all of Se Hee's actions at face value. Everytime he does something seemingly romantic she has a really hard time not getting caught up and it takes a reminder of what the situation actually is to snap her back to reality. But, at the same time

*I think there might be a translation error with the subs bc some translations say she was speaking like "the desire could come from caring" and not literally saying "I did this because I care about you." So idk.

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Feeling ashamed is one thing, but she should also be aware that their acceptance being built on a lie means it'll most likely disappear. What I expected to see but didn't was nerves. I'm sure the drama is going someplace good with it, I just don't think her feelings were portrayed all that realistically there.

Saying "the desire could come from caring" (I think that was the translation Viki had) is still heavily implying that she cares in a way that the landlord-tenant relationship he thinks they have doesn't really make room for, since the context is that they're talking about her actual feelings and actions.

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Right, but I do think it's fair to point out the difference between outright confessing and implying her feelings considering she definitely wasn't trying to confess. It's very much a "I'm talking about my friend, not me!" type situation imo.

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I really like Bo Mi's character here. Its like Bo Mi is Bo Mi but with a robot mix in between. Acube should push her as an actress as like Amber's character in Entourage, she ended up light up the scene everytime she appears.

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My husband has never paid me for dealing with his parents, I want a divorce.

This was kind of a downer week for me with this show. I didn't not enjoy it but I definitely didn't enjoy it as much as I have previous weeks. The retconning of Bok Nam's pushiness doesn't sit great with me, I hate Ho Rang and Won Seok as a couple, but worst of all, Ji Ho is starting to go a little Ho Rang with Se Hee and it's making me scared I'm gonna end up disliking the main relationship. This is the second week in a row Ji Ho has completely disregarded/ been oblivious to Se Hee's obvious discomfort and the second time she has reacted by being purposefully manipulative. And honestly, it doesn't even seem fair to say that Se Hee slighted her when all he's done is reinforce the boundaries of their original agreement. I know she can't help herself falling for him and but she should at least try to pay a little fucking lip service to the concept she signed up for so she doesn't get pissed off every time Se Hee does not immediately reciprocate her feelings. He was a robot when you agreed to fake marry him, what did you expect? Hopefully next week will see Ji Ho growing up a little and Se Hee softening some cos I don't need two Ho Rang/Won Seok couples.

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Actually, this drama is very similar to the hit Jdrama NigeHaji as in the structure and background story. But as NigeHaji deals with a nerdy and lack of confidence husband, this drama deal with a husband with a sad past. And as the female lead in NigeHaji is very sweet and trying to break the low self esteem that he husband has, this drama in the other hand deals with how the female lead go in an full attack mode when she was hurt and become 'manipulative' in the end like what you commented.

I agree that it made her character unlikable esp how she knew damn well what she signed up for when she entered this fake marriage. But for her to keep flaunting her feeling unwantedly to a clearly uninterested guy and somehow 'punish' him for it is just not a good look.

But all this mix made it such a fun and interesting show. Here we deal with a strong lead girl and she knows how to defense herself. So, despite I did not like this revenge aspect of her, I find her character interesting and it made for a good drama. But like you, I hope she stops this and let Se Hee falls for her naturally. Because aside from how good Ji Ho is at being a tenant, in Se Hee's eyes, the romance hasnt even start yet as he did not see her as a romantic partner like she did to him. I hope the writer did not forget this aspect and let us see why Se Hee falls for her in the coming episodes.

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what about Ji ho career ? I want to see her grow in that department.

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IA I think they have set aside that arc and focusing more on Ji Ho's personal growth as someone navigating new feelings

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I'm not even sure they'll go back to her career path at all now that they introduce 'finding true love' as her dream.

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OP, I finally watch this drama due to your constant recommendation every week and I love it! The synopsis didnt give it justice but it turned out it is contract marriage plot so I'm sooo in. I love contact marriage plot in Kdramas, it usually great and this one didn't disappoint at all.

I'm not really a fan of Lee Minki and I never got his appeal/looks but his role as Se Hee made me warm up to him. He is very excellent in playing the robot-lifeless guy and it is so freaking hilarious esp the part where he is trying to avoid the motorcycle in last week's episode. It's so funny on how many times he turns and did the impossible just because how petty he is as a person. XD

And I like Ji Ho since I dont find her annoying and her conflict and wanting to fall in love is just sad in a way since she is probably fall for Se Hee just because he is nice to her just like how the previous co-worker guy being nice to her that she ended up liking him for 3 years. But how the writer wrote how good she is at defense is just kind of awesome. It really hit Se Hee right to his face each and everytime and that is why Se Hee also see it as her good point as well.

Now the in-law plot will continue in the coming episodes, I guess the later plot will be dealing with Se Hee's ex-fiancee coming back to the picture and Ji Ho going back to writing. And I wish the end will not deal with the contract marriage comes to light (aka other kdramas) since it will be very embarrassing to both Se Hee and Ji Ho.

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This drama isn't turning out quite how I expected lol. Still not sure if that's a good or bad thing, but I'm in till the end.

My favourite moment in these eps was actually Se Hee's father feeding the cats, haha. We've come to see him as an uncaring father (because we only hear Se Hee's perspective), but the fact that he loves cats, and this is a characteristic they share... it's a small thing, but hints at more depth to his character/their relationship. I thought this was an excellent example of the subtlety+poignancy of the first few eps that I feel the show's lost a bit of in these two weeks.

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
OP!!!!!!!!!!!!! the new post can't come fast enough
I have feelings I need to express!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I knowwwwwww, but I think I have to wait until tomorrow so more people have a chance to watch it.

THAT. KISS. THO

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