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omonatheydidPlease, Please, PLEASE Do Not Watch This Video if you are extremely triggered by Animal Abuse.
Footage begins at the 0:29 mark. Ends at the 0:45 mark.
- A Siberian Husky corners the Mini Poodle, shakingly bites its' head, cracking it in the process.
- Mini Poodle is pouring blood from the mouth, dies at the scene.
- Owner of the Husky apologized, however, the Owner of the Poodle wants the Husky to be put down.
- Owner of the Dog Cafe said the employees were threatened by the Poodle's Owner for not closing the Cafe down after the attack; saying the Poodle Owner threaten them with a hammer.
- Owner of the Dog Cafe wants to take legal action against the Poodle Owner for the threats.
Mods, I know what you're thinking: Why on earth do I want this post up? Well, it's because it's really important for animal lovers (like myself), and those with pets to be cautious and responsible for the actions of their pets. I really can't stress it enough how crucial it is to know that this needs to stop, and it saddens me that this is happening everyday. It's up to us people (those with or without pets) to be open, aware, and engage in topics regarding pet abuse. This story is making me teary-eyed ...
Source: Issue-King TV, translated by me
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Date: 2017-09-22 11:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-22 11:41 pm (UTC)i think what it comes down to is that the poodle died at the cafe, and maybe the poodle owner wants to sue the place so that a) it gets shut down and b) it doesn't traumatize the owner of the poodle everytime he/she passes by that area (?) i'm just speculating.
i do agree with you that if the owner of the poodle was indeed threatening the employees & the dog cafe owner with physical violence, then it's their right to sue.
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Date: 2017-09-22 11:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 06:01 am (UTC)idk thinking that an animal has to be out down because it's acted like an animal doesn't sit well with me? especially since the breed is known for being a predator (as stated by other users below) i want to give the dog a chance at least. be with a family that will control, take care, and provide necessary precautions to ensure that the instincts will at least be subdued. idk, that's just me tho.
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Date: 2017-09-22 11:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-22 11:54 pm (UTC)http://indyscorner.blogspot.com/2009/02/siberian-husky-and-prey-drive-public.html
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Date: 2017-09-23 01:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 03:30 am (UTC)in my own case my dog was attacked by a german shepard, the shepard didn't have a leach on (which is illegal in some states). Once again the owner is at fault. Fortunatly, my dog survived and since then his mental has been altered.
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Date: 2017-09-23 04:55 am (UTC)Whenever someone says they want a husky I say "no you don't" lol
They WILL escape and they WILL hunt. No matter how many cement blocks you line around the fence to keep them from digging out
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Date: 2017-09-23 09:37 am (UTC)We would never have taken them to a dog cafe. We only ever let them off the lead when we were in a large field and TOTALLY ALONE. They were fine with humans but were just not trained properly to socialise with other dogs.
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Date: 2017-09-22 11:49 pm (UTC)when i was living in korea i would go to the dog cafe in my neighborhood fairly frequently. it was honestly mostly just depressing, but i really missed interacting with dogs. anyways, i'm surprised i never saw a dog fight there ... there was a sharpei (notoriously dog-aggressive breed) that was also food aggressive there. the other smaller dogs would try to take it's food when eating. good lord, just asking for trouble.
and a lot of the time, the workers at these places "control" the dogs by using those plastic hammers from k-variety shows and just smacking the dogs when they acted up. it was kinda sad. (the young girl who worked at the one in my neighborhood was pretty good though. and it was kinda in the middle of nowhere so it wasn't stupidly crowded or anything at least)
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Date: 2017-09-23 01:40 am (UTC)The restaurant I used to work at was super dog friendly and it constantly made me nervous because animals can just be super unpredictable. We had several scares.
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Date: 2017-09-23 12:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 12:30 am (UTC)along those lines I hate dog owners that let their large dogs off the leash when walking them, even if the owner insists “it won’t bite!” there’s still the danger of getting attacked. like sure your dog won’t bite me but it might go for my 14 year old over zealous poodle and being 5’1 I’m not tall enough to keep her out of reach of your giant monster lol. keep your big dogs on leashes when walking in public idc how well trained they are.
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Date: 2017-09-23 05:05 am (UTC)Along those lines I hate dog owners that let their large dogs off the leash when walking them, even if the owner insists “it won’t bite!” there’s still the danger of getting attacked. like sure your dog won’t bite me but it might go for my 14 year old over zealous poodle and being 5’1 I’m not tall enough to keep her out of reach of your giant monster lol. keep your big dogs on leashes when walking in public idc how well trained they are.
Yes my dad always scolds cause everytime they passes by their dog would try to pick a fight with my husky. The owner walks 2 dogs ( a husky with leash and 1 dog i dont know the breed off the leash) and that 1 dog is so agressive. If it tries to bite my husky, the owner cant do anything cause she holds the husky right)
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Date: 2017-09-23 03:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 03:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 03:48 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2017-09-23 07:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 07:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 03:27 am (UTC)The person who owns the husky though... yeah fuck 'em.
This is why I don't like dogs. Because their owners can't be bothered to properly raise them and take care of them, nor do they take the necessary precautions.
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Date: 2017-09-23 03:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 04:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 03:51 am (UTC)i have two smaller dogs at home and i watch them like a hawk whenever they're out. they're well manner and behaved but they are small. they'd be defenseless if a bigger dog attacked them like this. ugh.
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Date: 2017-09-23 04:11 am (UTC)i know other people don't bother, but i hope they do more research about the breed of dog that they're going to get before actually getting one. this is one of the reasons why there are a lot of dog abuse, negligence and an increase in shelter dogs. these are dogs. they follow their instinct a lot and you shouldn't expect to totally crush all of those with training. i'm just so sad that these incidents could have been avoided if only the owner of the husky was careful enough with their dog.
didn't get to watch the video as this will me stress me even more :(
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Date: 2017-09-23 04:22 am (UTC)Mte, and honestly when it comes to dogs having it be down in situations like these, it makes my blood boil. Basically the dog will have to die because you weren’t being responsible.
I also feel angry about the concept of putting down any animal unless it’s already dieing or in pain but that’s another matter
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Date: 2017-09-23 05:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 07:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 05:00 am (UTC)it's sad that things like this even happen. i like dogs (a lot), but i don't really have tolerance for negligent owners.
i know ultimately all the training in the world can't stop a dog from attacking someone/another dog if they see them as prey or feel scared/threatened, but people should keep an eye on their pets. especially in public areas. :/
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Date: 2017-09-23 05:34 am (UTC)I don't like dog cafes in general, they just sound like really stressful places for the dogs.
I hate when owners don't take care of their dogs especially if they're not trained. I don't blame the dog I blame the owner, why are you taking your dog to a cafe where there are a lot of dogs and a small space.
Like others have said dog owners should be responsible and research on the type of dog they're going to get.
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Date: 2017-09-23 06:28 am (UTC)A)There was a big dog/small dog section
B) A temperment test to see what dogs could be allowed
C) All owners watching their pets (both the poodle and husky owner)
I know that sounds harsh, but if you know your dog you know what to look out for or if your dog is prone to excite other breeds. Having a small dog you must be ever diligent with larger breeds!
I own two huskies, and they were socialized properly so I trust them with small dogs. However, just last week two ppl made a comment how their dogs were terrorized,at the dog park we go to, by two huskies. But they attributed this to huskies owners who did not pay attention to their bad behavior or even try to correct it.
My female husky is very docile unless i bring another female in the house or another female dog challenges her. She only got into a fight 3x and it was all bark "literally". She never did the neck shake, just tried to stand over the dogs and pin them down. I also have 3 cats that live with my huskies and they never treated my cats as prey. In fact, the cats rule over them for the most part. Now my baby husky is still a pup and thinks everyone wants to play, especially when the cats start running he thinks they want to play dog tag,but the cats and my senior husky keep him in check. Huskies can be raised to get along with cats and small animals with proper training, which these owners here failed which is a shame. Huskies are not for everyone and I only recommend them to ppl who have raised dogs before (and know to keep them active)or are just gifted with dogs in general.
Sad situation all around regarding dog owners.
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Date: 2017-09-23 07:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 07:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 07:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-23 08:09 am (UTC)Why was there no owners or employees in the area?
Those other dogs were clearly terrified as well.
This is a terrible situation that could have been completely avoided.
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Date: 2017-09-23 08:34 am (UTC)I love dogs and huskies but that husky's owner is a fucking idiot and I hope to god that the dog doesn't get killed for behaving like the animal it is.
Also there's a lovely dog cafe in Hongdae that only has rescue dogs! They're all totally in love with the owner.
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Date: 2017-09-23 09:52 am (UTC)This is really sad. I went to quite a number of dog cafe during my few trips to Seoul and I've always enjoyed myself at the dog cafe.
The husky's owners should have watched his/her husky and if you ask me, instead of going after the dog cafe owner, the mini poodle's owner should report the husky's owner. If the husky is aggressive, the owner should not have brought the husky to such public place.
I've been to one of the dog cafe when there were warning signs every where on certain dogs to watch out for. The signage warned that these dogs cannot be touched and please take care of your dogs and be careful around the listed dogs. Nothing happened cause I saw everyone read the signs and the cafe staff were walking around the cafe to make sure everything and everyone was ok.
So I guess in a way, the cafe owner needs to take a small part of responsibilities too? If the staff were alert enough to see that the poor mini poodle was cornered by the husky, they should be able to do something about it before it's too late? But if the poodle's owner did threaten the cafe owner with a hammer, then it's the right of the cafe owner to sue the poodle's owner.
The husky's owner is definitely wrong for not watching his/her dog especially since a lot of studies had shown that Husky is among one of the most dangerous breeds and it has strong predatory instinct especially towards smaller animals.
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Date: 2017-09-23 12:09 pm (UTC)I know it's easy to write off dog breeds as aggressive and dangerous (though I would argue small breeds are much more aggressive and temperamental than big ones) but in my very humble opinion and my observations while working with animals the temperament of the dog doesnt play as big of a role as people think. Firm training and an owner who can recognize a shift in body language and knows how to correctly react to it can easily override unwanted behaviours. Problem is that not many owners are capable of following through with this as it is a 24/7 job.
eta: Do I think the dog should be put down? No. I think it needs stricter training and maybe a new owner. If it is put down we end up with 2 dead animals and 2 bitter humans. I sincerely doubt the Poodle's owner's demand stems from a place of concern for other dogs. Euthanasia of otherwise healthy dogs is a controversial topic among professionals as it is almost always done at the expense of the animal and doesn't fix the issue which , essentially, stems from the owners.
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