Bride of the Water God Ep 9-10 Discussion Post

[keytfelt.livejournal.com]

Synopsis: When the narcissistic water god Ha Baek visits earth in order to find a stone powerful enough to help him claim his throne, he seeks out the help of his servant and destined bride, psychiatrist So Ah, whose family is fated to serve the water god for generations. The problem is that she has no belief in the gods and initially mistakes him for suffering from delusions. Things get even more strange, however, when the wind god Bi Ryum, the water goddess Mu Ra, and a hotel CEO/demi-god Hu Ye show up to complicate things.
Cast: Nam Joo Hyuk, Shin Se Kyung, Im Joo Hwan, Krystal, Gong Myung
Director: Kim Byung Soo
Writer: Yoon Mi Kyung (comic), Jung Yoon Jung (drama)
Network: tvN
Episodes: 16
Release Date: July 3, 2017 -
Runtime: Mondays & Tuesdays 22:50

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Sources: AsianWiki MyDramaList

Comments

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

This week I realize I have no interest in the romance between Hae Baek and So Ah but still enjoy their dynamic outside of that (the scene with the mugs was great).

I'm kind of getting sick of waiting on bits of backstory. Like I'm still lost on the exact details as to whatever the fuck went down 1200 years ago that Ha Baek says he has forgotten (yeah right), where the fuck is So Ah's father, and what the connection is between Bi Ryum and Hu Ye cause Bi Ryum seems to intensely hateful towards Hu Ye for there to not be more going on there.

At first I just chalked it up to Bi Ryum being an ott dick like he's been before but I can't buy into that simplistic explanation anymore.

There just bits even every episode where I'm given things to chew on (some past incident between the leader of the air gods or whatever and the water gods, Moo Ra and whatever the hell happened with that guy who can't talk, etc.) but instead of getting closer to an answer I get more confused and annoyed.

Idk I'm just starting to feel like, while I like parts of the show, this may ultimately be a waste of my time.

[letskilljoy.livejournal.com]

YESSS this was what i was thinking yesterday after watching ep 10.

I feel like we're getting no explanation about whatever happened in the gods realm or we are getting closer to the end. Like i know we should be nearing the last ep soon but there's no consistent development since the early eps. I won't be surprised if they dump a bunch on information in the last few eps.

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Yeah I'm gonna stick it out in hopes that they'll do a giant info dump so I'll get some answers but they dragged some stuff out for too long that when/if I get the details I'll probably still be annoyed lol.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

I don't know about anything else but I have a hunch that So Ah's dad is the guy who raised Hu Ye in the human world and that's why he came like a saint.

I'm still confused about So Ah's ancestor. I'm not sure how much is stuff we've seen, how much is stuff I put together on my own, and how much is stuff I misunderstood because I'm only ever half watching this show. What do we know for sure?

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

I think So Ah's dad might have raised Hu Ye as well and mentioned the possibility in last weeks post.

I just want confirmation on something at this point :(

With all my complaining we'll probably start to get answers next week lol.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

So there was a human who lived in the realm of the gods but then left after finding out one of her relatives on the human side was sick and she never returned. Presumably she was one of So Ah's ancestors. Were her and Habaek supposed to get married or was he just in love with her? And did Bi Ryeom have something to do with it?

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

See I remember this story being told but didn't connect it to So Ah's ancestors.

Maybe my issue is that I'm not trying to fit everything into a single story. I take in everything separately so I keep them apart in my mind.

Hell maybe even the guy whose tongue got frozen and then smashed by Moo Ra fit in there somehow.

There was mention of conflict between the water and air gods and Ha Baek did seem a tad hostile towards Bi Ryeom at one point.

Idk what my deal is lately cause I typically find tv plots to be easy to understand but this show and The Best Hit have me all sorts of lost which is weird because neither is meant to be super elaborate.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

But then the flashback with So Ah's ancestor had them cursing a father with a son so it's not really clear how/if that fits into the other story about the woman who left but I've been assuming it does.

I'm not watching The Best Hit but Bride of the Water God has been pretty cryptic and tight with details so it's not super unreasonable to be confused.

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Yeah the stuff with the father and son is what I placed solidly in the "So Ah's family history" box along with the stuff about So Ah's childhood/younger life.

The stuff with the human who lived with gods I've decided to put into the "whatever happened 1200 years ago" box 📦

Also have boxs for "CEO's backstory", one for miscellaneous info/things I don't understand, and one for whatever Bi Ryeom and Moo Ra's dynamic is meant to be.

I'm definitely more interested in putting things together on my own now or at least attempting to since the writers are too slow on telling us directly. Before I didn't put much effort into solving the mysteries~. 🕵🏽‍♀️

Thanks for trying to sort this stuff out with me ❤️

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

Moo Ra wants to fuck Habaek. Bi Ryeom wants to fuck Moo Ra but since she's not interested, he's decided to fuck the world instead? I joke but I'm mainly watching this show for Gong Myung at this point, sitting here like 'aww, look at my cute little psycopath. You're about to do something awful, aren't you?''

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Lol I still can't figure out how recently they've all seen each other.

They clearly were interacting at least 1200 years ago but everything since is weird. Like I know Moo Ra and Bi Ryeom have interacted recently due to them loosing the god stones but putting together how these people have been towards each other is difficult. Moo Ra was even all "you've changed" to Bi Ryeom this week so maybe he wasn't always so crazy/destructive.

Idk Moo Ra needs to find other gods to hang with cause these dudes don't appreciate her.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

He's seemed pretty consistently like an asshole in all the flashbacks we've seen. Maybe it's Moo Ra's memory that's the problem.

Truth. She should also work up some kind of spine. I'm already tired of watching her stand on the sidelines saying 'oh, I don't think you should do that," while doing absolutely nothing.

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Lol yeah Moo Ra can't even remember exactly what went down with the guy she made tongue less so her memory isn't pristine.

Bi Ryeom gave me the vibe of some one who was well flighty (lol) and self involved but not a violent asshole like his current days self which is why I bought into the idea of him having changed but that perception (both mine and Moo Ra's) could be completely wrong because the glimpses of past!Bi Ryeom were brief in comparison to all the scenes we get of his current self. Also he did get into a fight with Moo Ra which is how they lost the stones so it's not he was a super peaceful person before lol.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

Didn't Bi Ryeom kill somebody in a boat in one of those flashbacks with So Ah's ancestor?

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

No that was a water god in the water I think and also thought the god was a woman too.

After this post I feel like I need rewatch every episode cause I'm not even 100% sure on anything anymore but I think it was a woman and the little trial/cursing event was held by the water gods so I'm pretty sure about the killer being a water god (it's either that or they procided over it because it took place in their domain or whatever).

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

God knows I will never watch this show again but I will apparently look up shit on dramabeans (http://www.dramabeans.com/2017/07/bride-of-the-water-god-2017-episode-6/).

"In the Realm of the Gods, a giant eagle flies through the air and then plunges into a lake, transforming into a man underwater. A young boy fishing with his father sees Bi-ryum, the sky god, smiling up at him from the water.

But this is a darker, more sinister Bi-ryum than we’ve seen in modern times. He waves his arm and the fisherman falls out of his boat, and he and Bi-ryum both disappear beneath the surface of the lake."

Maybe you thought it was a woman because of his hair/robes?

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

So you were right to was Bi Ryeom.

Yeah I must have saw the long hair and assumed it was a woman. Before now I thought Bi Ryeom's first appearance in his god get up was when we see him, Moo Ra, and Ha Baek walking with the scholar/guide/whatever his official title is where he was telling him about the story of the half human half god for the first time.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

I mean, he is real pretty. lol

If the guy he killed was already Habaek's servant, it makes sense that he would be tried by the water gods I think. He had another flashback scene where him and Moo Ra took something from Habaek and lost it and tried to get around it by saying I'll give mine back when the other does. I'm still not clear why Moo Ra and Bi Ryeom are in the human world. Is it just because of the stones thing or were they (especially Bi Ryeom) banished/exiled for a while for being shits?

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Your idea about them being exiled seems likely. We've seen how Bi Ryeom is well Bi Ryeom and how Moo Ra while give some input but ultimately goes along with whatever guy she's with is doing. She also also doesn't think much of those she views as beneath~ her either. So if it was her being swept up in something Bi Ryeom came up with she may haven't gotten kicked out after her constant pushing around of minor gods (I just keep coming back to the tongue less guy cause it keeps being mentioned every time he's in a scene).

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

If anything, it seems like maybe Moo Ra is nicer now than she used to be. Maybe she was the one that changed and Bi Ryeom has always been a twat.

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

That's a good explanation behind her view of Bi Ryeom.

She very much believes in the rule of gods not harming humans so living in a place where she couldn't inflict violence upon someone on s whim could have changed her a lot in the sense that she would have to learn other ways to manage her anger.

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Also this is making me buy into the idea of Bi Ryeom being Yu He's father even more.

I like the idea of him being the source of all the current misfortune of everyone lol.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

lol. He is clearly a bad egg. I thought Hu Ye would be able to recognize his father though. I feel like I remember Hu Ye talking about things his father said to him, implying that they would have been face to face at some point, but I'm not sure.

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Hmm I think you're right about them talking so Bi Ryeom may be out of the running in terms of being his father.

Like Yu He clearly has some self loathing going on and I think his father was a part of instilling that in him.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I don't really have a lot I want out of this show (other than more screen time for Bi Ryeom and Hu Ye as they are the least boring characters) but I would like for them to maybe not ruin Hu Ye's life, since he appears to have done nothing but be born and then try to be a good guy. For a show that I am otherwise not invested in a at all, I am getting genuinely upset with Bi Ryeom's seemingly personal vendetta against Hu Ye. Just leave him be. He just wants to plant trees and help little blind children, wtf is your problem?

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Mte on everything

They are the two most interesting characters on the show to me.

I would like for Moo Ra to evolve into a better character since she has that kind of potential imo but I doubt it will ever happen :( She's very much in a side kick sort of role.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

Moo Ra has less agency on this show than So Ah which is frankly kind of embarrassing. But mostly I'm just glad they moved her past her initial appearances where seemingly the entire point of her character was to look pretty and be bitchy. It was both boring and did nothing for her acting.

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Yeah I think the tiny evolution we got from her ice queen self in the beginning is why I want more? Like it's the fact that I know there is a possibility of more depth whereas with So Ah while we got to know her slightly better I suppose there is has been no big change so I just expect her to just stay the same if that makes sense.

[mjspice.livejournal.com]

Idk I'm just starting to feel like, while I like parts of the show, this may ultimately be a waste of my time.

I swear this is how my sister & I feel too. A whole lot of plot yet there's nothing going on. D:

[lostintheechoes.livejournal.com]

still waiting for CEO dude to go full on hulk mode.

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Yeah it's only a matter of time before he snaps.

[mjspice.livejournal.com]

I'm surprised he hasn't as of yet.

[tegawa.livejournal.com]

i started reading the manhwa and i'm getting curious how soah is supposed to be destined to be habaek's bride in the drama? i feel like nothing is implied that she's destined to be his bride.

i also want to know that moora and biryeom were fighting about since they mentioned marriage/engagement? lmao

[keithfan-sra.livejournal.com]

As someone above me commented Bride of the Water God is an odd name. There's been almost no hint at all of something like that. I am more interested in some of the other story lines instead of the main love line.
I feel like the wind god is in love with Moo Ra? And how been since forever probably? I am guessing that he can kiss her without fainting and that will be happening sometime...eventually...probably.
This might sound crazy, but there's no way wind god is Ceo Shin's dad, right? Have they mentioned specially who his dad was? Like, why does he hate him so much. It's ridiculous and they haven't revealed why yet.
I keep wanting for the main girl's dad to show up or for her to be revealed as not quite human as she thinks she is.
As far as I know, this isn't following the manwha at all, is it? So it feels like we have no idea what's going to happen.

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

I had the exact thought as you in regards to Bi Ryoem being the CEO's father but second guessed myself and decided not to include it in my comment.

I'm relieved I'm not alone in this train of thought lol.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

Wait, is that minor god who kissed Habaek not Hu Ye's father?

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

I ruled him out causes I figured creating a half human half god being would idk require more power to do?

Idk the way Yu He's existence is talked about makes it seem horrific yet miraculous at the same time?

Also things were made out as if Yu He's father hated him (the part about Yu He being imprisoned in some cave) whereas the minor god is currently helping him.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

So then why was the minor god in the cave with Hu Ye? Like acting as a servant/whatever to whoever his actual dad is?

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

I missed the bit with the minor god having been in the cave with him entirely lol but yeah he could have been in the cave in a serving capacity (Yu He seems to be reborn over and over so having someone there to look after him while he's a child would make sense 👶) or maybe Yu He's dad had beef with the minor god and liked to throw all the people he hates into the same cave? Who knows lol.

[keithfan-sra.livejournal.com]

I get the impression the minor god and Ceo shin had/have a good relationship established from when the minor god looked out for him back in the other world. I would say the minor god is/was a servant to the Ceo's dad but I couldn't say where I got that impression from. Maybe just the felling his dad never had anything to do with him and just kept him locked up until he was cast out. Another questions is: is the ceo aiming to kill himself for good so he can never come back?

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

He seems pretty fed up with everything at the moment and I think he did say something to the minor god about it but I can't remember what despite your reply jogging my memory a bit.

Putting an end to things does seem like something he would do/wants to do. All of his suffering is tied into his very existence and he also seems to have some self hatred imo.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

Hu Ye says that Geol Rin (I looked up his name!) abandoned him/stopped coming back to the cave. At least the translation I watched. That part got weird though. Geol Rin asked why Hu Ye's father abandoned him and then Hu Ye responded that he didn't know that Geol Rin was in the human realm and assumed that he had abandoned him. So like...I don't know. Either translation issues or Geol Rin was speaking about himself in the third person or Hu Ye responded to a question about his father with a statement about a different person? It was pretty confusing.

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

A+ investigation 🕵🏽‍♀️

Hhhmm so it can be read as a) Geol Rin is his dad and they lived together in the cave until Geol Rin disappeared one day or b) Geol Rin was basically Yu He's nanny until he vanished.

[kristinl356.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I've also been working under the assumption that when you commit the grave sin of siring some kind of demigod monster, you don't tell people about it even if being a single parent is hard but it would make just as much sense as his seeming about-face now when he found Hu Ye again. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

True that is definitely something you don't want to broadcast.

The idea of the sire of the epic demi god being a nobody and abandoning for regular sort of deadbeat dad reasons would be an interesting twist even though I like my more ott dramatic concept of Bi Ryeom being the super villain of the story.

[mjspice.livejournal.com]

MTE With Moo Ra & Bi Ryeom. They did mention that they were engaged to be married but didn't consummate or whatever.

I doubt CEO Shin is related to either of the gods tbh except for the earth one cuz he mentioned losing his stamp.

& agree with Yoo Soon Ha's dad possibly being a god.

[mjspice.livejournal.com]

Finally got caught up with this. It's so lame omg yet I can't stop watching.

I just wish they kept showing the gods in their true forms cuz they're devastating beautiful that way.