omona he did it again (or not?): JB makes another homophobic statement (UPDATE)

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

JB of GOT7 recently did an interview regarding the JJ Project, which includes him and GOT7 groupmate Jinyoung. Well, he wanted you all to know that he loves him, but totally no homo.



No need to make it a federal issue or whatever, but paired with other statements like this (mistranslated but still the general vibe remains), he is definitely King Of No Homo.


UPDATE
skidadler provided a different translation.

Apparently, there were two articles floating around and the original one that was translated is the below where JB said: 사랑이 아닌 우정. Which was what was translated as "not lovers, but friends". That said, it's talking beyond romantic love. It's talking about a deeper friendship that goes beyond love.



If you take into consideration how Koreans view friendships, you can be "friends" with people your age, but the term 우정 is akin to a lifelong comradeship+affection that goes beyond your typical friendship. So, the way I'm reading it comes off as JJP is more than just a loving friendship, but a lifelong camaraderie. My friend whom I've been discussing this with at length said, "You don't use 우정 to the left and to the right. It's a very deep word. Maybe deeper than 사랑. For JB to use it for Jinyoung, he really cares about him."

source: asianjunkie, @got7jjai, chilHD

i knew i should have requested a "bye felicia" tag in the last tag request post

Comments

[a-cheshire-grin.livejournal.com]

W H Y is it that men always have to add: "Oh, not in the homo way!", when they talk about being close with their guy friends/going to the cinema or to diner with them. Like, W H Y are men so insecure in their sexuality?

I'm bisexual, so I'm not a good example, but my straight female friends always compliment each other, go to diner together and hold each others hands, without having to scream: "No homo!" while doing it! x.x

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

i think females are more cuddly with each other even if they're not bisexual or lesbian. i remember holding my female friends hands or kissing them when i was back in high school and im straight.

with guys, they're afraid that people will think "oh my god, they're not MANLY!"
which is funny cause korean dude hug each other all the time or shower together, something that dudes in the west would never do. so...

[21cgirls.livejournal.com]

can he like..shut the fuck up

[torontok.livejournal.com]

Is JB legitimately concerned his dick will shrivel up and fall off if he doesn't clarify that he is straight manly man™ everytime people bring up his friendship with another man?

He can go join Mr "Please don't understand, we are Real Men ™" Lay in the fragile masculinity corner

[a-cheshire-grin.livejournal.com]

He can go join Mr "Please don't understand, we are Real Men ™" Lay in the fragile masculinity corner

Ugh, please don't remind me about this. It was the final straw which made me kick Lay to the curb and I was like his biggest stan! Foolish me...-.-

[miyozari.livejournal.com]

Jaebum... should really stop talking. Jinyoung has expressed his admiration and love for him as friends since old interviews back in 2012 and Jinyoung never felt the need to add "no homo".

eta: skidadler and op, thanks for updating the post. Translating different languages (especially idioms) is a complex matter. Fans (me, included) jump to conclusions way too fast.

[staaan.livejournal.com]

lol this is like the 947383th time he's done this and some ahgases still wanna claim that he's not a homophobe

[honeebs.livejournal.com]

He seems to be concerned he is being seen a certain way but he is the only one taking words to that place.
Which btfw is not a bad place you fuckface and not a good fuckface, fuckface.
Just shut your mouth and let me have my pretty.
He is in the wrong business if he feels he needs to clarify "just friends" at every turn.

[dynamite-state.livejournal.com]

Personally I wish you'd kept that. It infuriates me when the go-to respone to homophobic behaviour is to call the person closeted, it's become too much of a common practice. The lgbt community is not the root of homophobia, let's be clear with that.

Yeah, it does happen, like you said. But I've noticed it's become more and more part of general consensus when it's really just a way for straight people to deny all responsibility.

edit: I'm not trying to start something here btw! It's just something that bugs me because it gets brought up a lot in similar situations.

[tsubaki874.livejournal.com]

If he had stated it as fans thought we looked like lovers but we're just close friends that woulda been fine because lbr idols are not blind to the shipping, but no he had to go the no homo route sigh

[dynamite-state.livejournal.com]

Ah, I love a consistent king, 🌈all homo🌈

My (straight) friends have never (ever) pulled some no-homo bs on me but I've noticed a difference between my guy friends and my girl friends. The girls and I have no trouble complimenting each other at any time whereas I don't remember a guy friend going out of his way to do the same, for example. It's nbd to me but it's not like it's gone unnoticed. Other little things too, but I don't want to derail much from the topic at hand here.

The way Real Men's brain works is truly something though, I will say.

[saemcrh.livejournal.com]

His brain must be exhausted from working overtime in 'defence' whenever another man compliments him. Give it a rest.

[ashdevilrun23.livejournal.com]

I'm starting to think he's protesting a little too much...🤔

or he's just straight up homophobic

[camouflagecat.livejournal.com]

Idk how many times I've had pretend conversations with him in my head where I imagine myself trying to talk sense to him.

Anyone can see he's been so happy to perform together with Jinyoung as JJProject again but idk how he can hold onto this mindset even here. Not like they've been like this ever since 5 years ago so idk why is he's suddenly so afraid of...something. Maybe he read some shipper comments bc I can't think of anything that could prompt this out of nowhere comment literally no one asked him to do?? And that still doesn't make it okay (I mean imo you're allowed to be uncomfortable with shipping but there's right ways to address the situation and there's wrong ways and he's doing it wrong so)?? Idk how to express my disappointment with him. How can you be so eloquent in some subjects and be so backwards in others. I guess I'll never really wrap my head around this mindset.

I've been enjoying his teamwork together with Jinyoung and I don't want him to go ruin this comeback for me and JY with that attitude of his.

[maagdenpalm.livejournal.com]

I'm a huge fan of JB but I'm also feeling so conflicted about him, especially as a black bisexual person. There have been too many instances that got me side eyeing him.

[miwa201.livejournal.com]

i feel like he probably is annoyed (maybe disgusted) by shippers and this is what brought all these no homo comments on. people pointed out that he wasn't like this during their debut, and even talked about sleeping in the same bed with youngjae. some idols are amused by shipping, while some idols are not a fan of it. or maybe he's just homophobic idk

[dynamite-state.livejournal.com]

Oh, totally. I understand the frustration he + other idols have with shipping, especially when they are prompted/forced to do fanservice they're not comfortable doing. And an annoyed response to that is not uncalled for imo. A response of disgust though? eh...

Calling a team member a lovely person has 0 connotations too, I don't see how that's related to problems with shippers rather than his own. Plus, it was unprovoked, unlike Jackson's (too polite) "please stop" comment @ the shippers, for example. Fandom is a factor but idt it's the main one in JB's case.

[henolam.livejournal.com]

coulda kept the "manly" line too

[merely-a-facade.livejournal.com]

eurgh, istg men are so unnecessary *eye roll*

JB should never open his mouth tbh, just stand and look pretty. Jinyoung should always speak for GOT7/JJP b/c he seems to be the only one who thinks before speaking, or at the very least, stays in his damn lane.

[callherblondie.livejournal.com]

He is (ok and a lot of their shitty music) what deters me from ever being interested in GOT7 even though I love Yugyeom

[kashiyaek.livejournal.com]

all of them deter me from being interested besides youngjae and yugyeom tbh

[evilcoc0nut.livejournal.com]

[rosiemotleymind.livejournal.com]

See I'm trying to love Jinyoung without any other headasses getting in the way.

Is his masculinity THIS fragile that he has to keep doing this? But what do I honestly expect from men? My pads are stronger than their masculinity.

[callherblondie.livejournal.com]

My pads are stronger than their masculinity.
LOL you're a gift

Alternate Translation

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

JJ Project, "it's not in terms of love, but deep friendship" 😢😭 https://t.co/cbrGmy42ty (https://t.co/cbrGmy42ty) pic.twitter.com/NmHtwJ1sQn (https://t.co/NmHtwJ1sQn)

— uniVERSE-2🌠 (@chilHD) August 1, 2017 (https://twitter.com/chilHD/status/892262201045565444)

The Korean: "아직은 사랑하는 사이가 아니다" is literally "It's not a loving relationship yet."

And it wasn't JB who made the comment.

I always take any translation with a grain of salt and always reference at least two different sources before taking it as actual quotes, especially if "might contain inaccuracies" is literally the disclaimer.

For me, I don't want him to say anything because he has nothing to prove to anyone.

Sorry OP for all the edits.

Re: Alternate Translation

[jasmineakaiumi.livejournal.com]

lol if this is what was actually said then the original translation is quite off.
what I got from it was:

jinyoung: We're not at the point where we're in love yet.
JB: Our brotherly friendship is deep.
JY: He's a hyung I love. I feel like he influences me a lot.

edit/ I just saw your edits! basically we read the same thing. the placement of the 아직은 makes it more of a "we're not loving YET", not whatever the other sources are translating it as.

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

Not to mention, tact is not a concept I think Jaebeom fully comprehends. Could he learn? Absolutely.

I just knew when I saw this was in reference to Jinyoung, something definitely got lost in translation. Because of all the people for him to ever say anything of that sort about, it would never be Jinyoung.

[hyungmoney.livejournal.com]

basura!

[skidadler.livejournal.com]

Apparently, there were two articles floating around and the original one that was translated is the below where JB said: 사랑이 아닌 우정. Which was what was translated as "not lovers, but friends". That said, it's talking beyond romantic love. It's talking about a deeper friendship that goes beyond love.





If you take into consideration how Koreans view friendships, you can be "friends" with people your age, but the term 우정 is akin to a lifelong comradeship+affection that goes beyond your typical friendship. So, the way I'm reading it comes off as JJP is more than just a loving friendship, but a lifelong camaraderie.

A lot of cultural nuances in one pull quote. That said, people can take it whichever way they want to. Not gonna defend JB, since I still think that he should just talk about music. But wanted to clear up that the alternate translation I posted above is a different article that utilizes similar content.

Still stand by my statement about always referencing more than one source, though.

I'm really failing at LJ today... OTL

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

added your comment to the post but can you please edit your pic? it says you should update your photobucket account

[hpn88.livejournal.com]

Wow at people jumping down some's throat for an actually nice thing they said. I don't support his former statements at all but this time that wasn't even his intent - he meant something meaningful and thoughtful guys.

[yixingsforehead.livejournal.com]

i need like a counter for these
also the ones where the guys cringe "don't act strange" when others touch them

[boxcuttergirl.livejournal.com]

omona collectively got over jb's homophobia pretty fast didn't they

[candycane23049.livejournal.com]

Really? I can't tell by some the comments I've seen during JJP promo's and comments here before the clarification post.