I'm of the view that parents absoloutely need to be proactive about disciplining their kids and be considerate of people around them.But at the same time non-parents also need to cut them some slack.There's a difference between a selfish mom and one who's tired/struggling to keep order and even the most well-behaved kid can throw a fit sometimes.Kids need to be able to go out and interact in public spaces, that's how socialization works.But parents need to learn that the world does not revolve around their brats. Also I'm all for kid free timings.I'll never understand people who take babies to late movies and stuff
its my first time listening about this topic being a "thing" ..... not like a bad thing just they put it a name because apparently is "so weird and unique" lol but not really i have seen many moms around me acting like that i dont care too much their problems or their kids lmao
its like this other solfa video about "joong 2 disease" ... is how they call pre-puberty?
I've definitely felt annoyed when I see kids being extremely unruly in public and their parents aren't doing anything to discipline or even calm them down, but it's ridiculous that businesses would enforce rules like "no kids under 5." Like, can't the child eat? And do they honestly expect children to stay home all the time until they're at a more "calm" age, so to speak? Kids won't know how to behave and socialize in public unless they're, you know, IN PUBLIC.
I feel bad for the children who can't do outings with their parents bc of social norms like this as well as for the parents who feel like they can't go out in public bc of the judgment and having to leave their children at home. Yes, parents should try their best to be considerate when they're out in public with unruly children, but gahdamn this ageism is nagl.
Edit: I DO like that Korea has kid cafes (I assume they're kinda like Chuck E Cheeses/other kid-friendly places over here?), but I don't think it's right to expect them to be limited to only such spaces.
And real talk, but why is this term applied only to moms? Knowing this is Korea and the main child rearer is expected to be the mother, but still. WHY is another negative term only directed at women? 😒
i agree with pretty much everything you said. i do find it ironic that korea seems to have such a thing against mothers sometimes (especially if they are single mothers) but like...i guarantee if more and more women were not having children (which i know is happening in more urban areas if i recall correctly) they would still blame women for population declines and such.
I feel bad for the children who can't do outings with their parents bc of social norms like this as well as for the parents who feel like they can't go out in public bc of the judgment and having to leave their children at home. Yes, parents should try their best to be considerate when they're out in public with unruly children, but gahdamn this ageism is nagl
Are people really that hostile about small children in public? If a baby cries on a plane I just feel sorry for the parents cause I know they are trying their hardest.
sometimes they are realy not though, i think that's what annoys people the most. as if we have to accept everything kids do just because they're kids. and even when parents really do their best, who's to say that an old lady who paid $$$ to fly in comfort of business class and her feelings are irrelevant when she's stranded with a crying baby beside her for 12 hours straight? (witnessed this a month ago)
There is a difference between taking a kid to the Olive Garden versus a fine dining restaurant. At some point, parents have to be conscious of that. Most of the places that don't allow small children, do so because either something inside is a danger (alcohol, things that can break) to them, or they are selling an experience. You don't see them getting banned from grocery stores.
i don't like terms designed to insult any kind of women and suggest they lack intellect or something because of their craaazy hormones. that being said, selfish parents are a real thing, and as a person who's always very considerate of rules and the people around, i feel nothing but absolute disrespect for them. and if enough of them don't understand that there're places where kids simply aren't supposed to be, then yes, administration of such places has to step in, and act as a parent here, and deny the entrance to them alltogether. i'm curious how i'll act as a parent though, since i'm always extremely embarassed for causing any kind of inconvenience to others, to the point of having my phone going off during class/meeting being my worst nightmare, yet kids are bound to make tons of noise and other shit no matter what.
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Date: 2017-06-21 11:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-06-21 11:59 pm (UTC)Also I'm all for kid free timings.I'll never understand people who take babies to late movies and stuff
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Date: 2017-06-22 12:16 am (UTC)its like this other solfa video about "joong 2 disease" ... is how they call pre-puberty?
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Date: 2017-06-22 12:23 am (UTC)I feel bad for the children who can't do outings with their parents bc of social norms like this as well as for the parents who feel like they can't go out in public bc of the judgment and having to leave their children at home. Yes, parents should try their best to be considerate when they're out in public with unruly children, but gahdamn this ageism is nagl.
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I DO like that Korea has kid cafes (I assume they're kinda like Chuck E Cheeses/other kid-friendly places over here?), but I don't think it's right to expect them to be limited to only such spaces.
And real talk, but why is this term applied only to moms? Knowing this is Korea and the main child rearer is expected to be the mother, but still. WHY is another negative term only directed at women? 😒
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Date: 2017-06-22 01:21 pm (UTC)맘충 is just basically another term that netizens made up for disrespectful people... who are also mothers. they're that type of person who leaves their kid's dirty diaper on empty plates at restaurants because they paid for the meal right? the lady who smiles and waves while their kid runs around the place writing on private property. the mom who screams at the teacher for their kid's shitty grades.
WHY is another negative term only directed at women?
i think you're looking too deeply at this cause they also have 김치남/한남충/대디충 which are male counterparts. netizens likes to term everyone and anyone. also no sane person irl would use any of these terms. these are just ~internet~ things.
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