[identity profile] lovesongwriter.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid
VIXX’s Ravi has sent a message to those who copy his and his group’s work after a new case of apparent plagiarism has come to light.

On May 21, Ravi took to Twitter to post a series of tweets that address the issue of plagiarism and the attitude that creators take when they are inspired by other works. His message is as follows:


“The phrase ‘I want to become a trend’ does not mean I’m telling others to take my music and copy it, and to disregard and hurt our fans.

“When making music, there is a clear difference between being influenced by something by using it as a reference and simply pasting it in. There is also a difference between being bold and being shameless.

“As a creator, it is possible that one might make mistakes, and it is possible that one might take pride in their work. However, I think that there is a big difference based on what one says. I am incredibly repulsed by the actions of those who disregard and hurt my fans, who love and support me and my music.

“In regards to ‘plagiarism’ and such, rather than fighting over whether it’s true or not, I had been thinking positively about this by thinking ‘Ah, so we influenced someone,’ because we also receive inspiration from others.

“I hope that everyone who is influenced by our content and creates something will think wisely, and I hope that they will not do things that are harmful to us and our fans.”

Ravi appears to be addressing the recent controversy over similarities that fans have pointed out between a new OST for the Chinese film “Father and Son” and VIXX sub-unit VIXX LR’s 2015 track “Beautiful Liar,” which Ravi co-composed. Fans have highlighted the similarities through videos such as this one on Weibo, in which the two songs are played simultaneously.

Although this is the most recent incidence, there have been a sad number of cases recently in which artists have released works that have been influenced by VIXX without proper credit. Those cases include two songs that were released this year by non-Korean artists that many listeners noticed sounded very similar to VIXX’s “Dynamite.”

Meanwhile, VIXX is currently promoting their track “Shangri-La” off their new mini album of the same name, which features a unique concept that has earned the group plenty of praise.


source: Joins via Soompi



Most plagiarized idols! When will your faves??

Date: 2017-05-22 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anonymous-loljk.livejournal.com
My vixx radar has been mostly off since the end of last year so this is the first time i heard about these issues. Anyway, is there any link where i can listen to each of these songs? I tried googling it but i guess since i used english titles/phrases i got nothing ^^;

Date: 2017-05-22 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jillyjellly.livejournal.com


EDIT: found this one too, starts at 0:42
Edited Date: 2017-05-22 02:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-05-22 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anonymous-loljk.livejournal.com
Thanks bb! Also, wow, it's indeed madly similar.

Date: 2017-05-22 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novnariel.livejournal.com
The best bit about The Voice was this:

http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/01/21/vixxs-dynamite-plagiarized-by-kursun-on-turkeys-the-voice-he-calls-it-creativity/

and this:

http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/01/23/kursun-the-dude-who-ripped-off-vixx-released-a-diss-song-against-their-fandom/

Date: 2017-05-22 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsuyoi-hikari.livejournal.com
Beautiful Liar is definitely one of the best Kpop song for that year! I cant help but amazed with how beautiful is the concept of the MV and how Leo & Ravi's voices sound sooooo good together

Date: 2017-05-22 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tree-star123.livejournal.com
lol i thought they were talking about tfboys but never heard of tvboys...

Date: 2017-05-22 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anonymous-loljk.livejournal.com
Strangely i feel kinda impressed haha. My respect increased about tenfold towards the boys and jellyfish entertainment from the way they handle the situation. Can't imagine how upsetting it is to be bombarded with cases like this.
Also thank you for the links ^^

Date: 2017-05-22 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] niyarav.livejournal.com
But noone's plagiarising his raps, I wonder why

For real though, plagiarism is obviously awful and they should get credit, but also how iconic are they to be copied so many times in such a short time.

Date: 2017-05-22 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gathyou.livejournal.com
But this kind of plagia would be so hilarious XD between Ravi's old English intros and his rap break full of grunts in Black Out... now I almost want to see this happening lol

Date: 2017-05-22 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gathyou.livejournal.com
Lmao the plagiarism is getting overboard with VIXX lately o.o at least people recognize how good they are?
It must be so frustrating to see your hardwork being used without credit...

Date: 2017-05-22 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gathyou.livejournal.com
The parts about the fans reads like some typical k-idol bullshit lol. The fans were the ones pointing the plagia cases, laughing about it then seeking revenge. Ravi shouldn't feel bad about us.
This taken out, you're right that his answer is still way too nice. He should be suing all their asses. But maybe he's not mentioning it because it's Jellyfish's job?

Date: 2017-05-22 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novnariel.livejournal.com
His tweet was a rebuke to the wife of the Chinese singer who sings the copied song. She complained about VIXX fans ruining her wedding anniversary on Weibo and tagged official Vixx Weibo account in her rant (the singer told the fans to delete their posts, the composer complained too, it was all very "manage your fans better" kind of thing).

It's Ravi job to sue though, just like it was Hitfire Production's (Dynamite production team), they started consultations with lawyers, as the song is registered to his name with the authorities. But suing in China (or Egypt, or Turkey) for copyright violation is pointless. The most they can do is remove the songs from YouTube, iTunes, etc.

(Sorry for the edits, my brain doesn't work in straight line today)
Edited Date: 2017-05-22 03:46 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-05-23 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gathyou.livejournal.com
I was saying that because usually, the companies are the one taking care of lawsuits on behalf of their employees. I think Ravi has better things to do than loose his time on difficult cases (plagia in China...) while companies should have a legal team.
As I said in another comment, it's still surprising that they haven't spoken up against it earlier, even if it was just a press release.

Lmao maybe she shouldn't have married someone who steal other people's work so easily and shamelessly then

Date: 2017-05-23 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novnariel.livejournal.com
I guess thanks to Hyoshin's endless lawsuits Jellyfish might have some good lawyers on speed-dial but I don't know if they deal with copyright issues too.

They haven't spoken up officially but Andrew Choi has, so they have been working on the issue behind the scenes (since the content has been removed and/or credit adjusted to the correct one). Jellyfish did address the issue with N's choreography through press release (and oh my god all the hate the company received for releasing the press statement instead of announcing it to the fans on fancafe or smth first and for accepting the apology).

Don't really know where I am going with this lol
Edited Date: 2017-05-23 09:01 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-05-22 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hearttaek.livejournal.com
they've (jelpi and the boys) kept quiet all these months and didn't address any of the plagiarims related issues publicly even with the fans putting constant pressure on them to do something abouf it. It's only when the chinese singer and wife spoke negatively about the fans did Ravi finally decide to speak up.

I do feel like Jelpi has been looking through their legal options all this time even though they're not going public with their plans (all while continuing to get hate from starlights from 'not doing anything')

I hope they win and get $$$

Date: 2017-05-23 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gathyou.livejournal.com
Yes I'm surprised they haven't said anything, even telling that they were checking with lawyers or something. Even if a proper lawsuit has not many chances to end well (plagia doesn't seem really forbidden in China for example...), I think it's important to speak up against it.

Date: 2017-05-22 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com
i don't stan them and i don't care about their latest song, but the choreo is soooooo beautiful. i think their older ones are also pretty. they should've get credited for all of this.

Date: 2017-05-22 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apori.livejournal.com
I'm glad he's able to look at it positively but I don't agree that plagiarism is ~flattery or even a compliment. They DO like your work but they do NOT like nor respect you. If they did, they would've credited. Simple.

They should be lauded for their originality not plagiarized and erased.

Date: 2017-05-22 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jinkiestabi.livejournal.com
I'm shocked he's addressing it. So much of their stuff has been stolen. And the people who did it don't even feel remorse over it.

Date: 2017-05-22 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hearttaek.livejournal.com
They've kept quiet all these months about anything related to music plagiarism and their stage costumes "inspiring" a bunch of other boy groups throughout the years.

The moment the wife of the chinese singer posted on weibo calling fans crazy blablabla is when they finally decide to say something publicly.

Date: 2017-05-22 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lightframes.livejournal.com
I'm glad he spoke up. This is annoying.

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