Leeteuk's question to Moon Jae In (presidential candidate):
"I've heard that businessmen and public service workers use APEC cards and special passports. Would it be possible if you could also provide a similar system for culture providers..."
"In fact, businessmen do get special passports and visas for their global business promotions. Among the APEC countries, they issue things like corporate passports for long-term visas and stays. Many systems like this exist. However, the hallyu celebrities don't get access to such services although their roles are just as important. I'm not so sure about the special passport but I think it's definitely needed."
Pann: What Leeteuk said to Moon Jae Intoday on the 4th
1. [+377, -9] Also Taeyeon had said something about how idol training is harder than national exams and university preparation ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I know it's hard to be an idol but it made me speechless how she said that when she hadn't studied properly. What Leeteuk said is even worse. Foreigners will think Korean idols are at the level of 5th-rank public service workers or something.
2. [+240, -5] Ugh, that's not something he should wish.
3. [+217, -5] Isn't that too much?
4. [+106, -1] I'm sorry but the quality of his work is different. How can he wish to be at the same level as the 5th rank who's responsible for major national affairs?
5. [+98, -0] Honestly speaking, he seems to think he's really something.
6. [+91, -1] Wow... That's so unlikeable.
7. [+90, -0] Isn't this also lookism? Someone has to study hard to become a public service worker but but someone can become a 5th rank public service worker with their handsome face.
8. [+84, -0] He's proving that he's uneducated and ignorant ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
9. [+78, -0] I really dislike him because he's the type that says things without thinking because he's immature and irresponsible. He also has a lot of controversies but a lot of them got buried because of his fans' shield.
10. [+71, -0] I know celebs work hard in their field but it's so gross how they have this superior mindset like him. Leeteuk happened to show it because he's stupid but a lot of celebrities must also think the same way. Once they become popular, they forget about their rookie days and become arrogant.
11. [+71, -0] All of the candidates are talking about giving up their privileges but Leeteuk is trying to make them for himself.
12. [+58, -2] He's nothing but an entertainer ㅋㅋ
source: kpop kfans, pann
"I've heard that businessmen and public service workers use APEC cards and special passports. Would it be possible if you could also provide a similar system for culture providers..."
"In fact, businessmen do get special passports and visas for their global business promotions. Among the APEC countries, they issue things like corporate passports for long-term visas and stays. Many systems like this exist. However, the hallyu celebrities don't get access to such services although their roles are just as important. I'm not so sure about the special passport but I think it's definitely needed."
Pann: What Leeteuk said to Moon Jae In
1. [+377, -9] Also Taeyeon had said something about how idol training is harder than national exams and university preparation ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I know it's hard to be an idol but it made me speechless how she said that when she hadn't studied properly. What Leeteuk said is even worse. Foreigners will think Korean idols are at the level of 5th-rank public service workers or something.
2. [+240, -5] Ugh, that's not something he should wish.
3. [+217, -5] Isn't that too much?
4. [+106, -1] I'm sorry but the quality of his work is different. How can he wish to be at the same level as the 5th rank who's responsible for major national affairs?
5. [+98, -0] Honestly speaking, he seems to think he's really something.
6. [+91, -1] Wow... That's so unlikeable.
7. [+90, -0] Isn't this also lookism? Someone has to study hard to become a public service worker but but someone can become a 5th rank public service worker with their handsome face.
8. [+84, -0] He's proving that he's uneducated and ignorant ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
9. [+78, -0] I really dislike him because he's the type that says things without thinking because he's immature and irresponsible. He also has a lot of controversies but a lot of them got buried because of his fans' shield.
10. [+71, -0] I know celebs work hard in their field but it's so gross how they have this superior mindset like him. Leeteuk happened to show it because he's stupid but a lot of celebrities must also think the same way. Once they become popular, they forget about their rookie days and become arrogant.
11. [+71, -0] All of the candidates are talking about giving up their privileges but Leeteuk is trying to make them for himself.
12. [+58, -2] He's nothing but an entertainer ㅋㅋ
source: kpop kfans, pann
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Date: 2017-05-10 07:59 pm (UTC)9. [+78, -0] I really dislike him because he's the type that says things without thinking because he's immature and irresponsible. He also has a lot of controversies but a lot of them got buried because of his fans' shield.
This 100%
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Date: 2017-05-10 10:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-10 08:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-10 08:05 pm (UTC)he has terrible foot in mouth disease
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Date: 2017-05-10 11:48 pm (UTC)But honestly, I'm going to hold on judging because I don't know exactly what perks he wants with visas. The article is too vague.
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Date: 2017-05-10 08:33 pm (UTC)Maybe this is translated wrong, but I didn't take it as him saying idols deserve the same treatment as important businessmen and public service workers.. just that he is aware that a system is in place to help them with travel, and that a system should also be in place for idols as they... also travel a lot a well. And is he wrong that idols do in fact bring a shit load of traffic and money to Korea?
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Date: 2017-05-10 09:09 pm (UTC)for once i'm actually agreeing w/ him
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Date: 2017-05-10 10:02 pm (UTC)any group and agency could use some special visa to make kpop tour a little easier
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Date: 2017-05-10 09:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-10 09:47 pm (UTC)remember when Kai's visa had some issues for the first US tour and had to skip a show till his visa got fixed?
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Date: 2017-05-10 09:57 pm (UTC)Someone please get help.
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Date: 2017-05-10 10:16 pm (UTC)so people probably took that as him thinking idols should be on the same level as civil servants, and in a country where education is number one, a dude who didn't even go to university shouldn't even dare to think himself as good as a civil servant.
(personally I think a entertainment visa would make sense, but eeteuk, my dude, get your fckn priorities in fckn order, Korea has more shit to worry about than idols overseas activities)
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Date: 2017-05-10 10:38 pm (UTC)but i don't know the numbers he pulls in.
i don't know what to think, really.
he can also try and pull a shinhwa/highlight/etc, be his own boss, and then try be a big enough entertainment business player to get a special passport.
I'd put a use to his big mouth
Date: 2017-05-10 11:50 pm (UTC)RE: I'd put a use to his big mouth
Date: 2017-05-11 01:06 am (UTC)Re: I'd put a use to his big mouth
Date: 2017-05-11 06:13 pm (UTC)Re: I'd put a use to his big mouth
Date: 2017-05-11 08:42 pm (UTC)Re: I'd put a use to his big mouth
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Date: 2017-05-11 04:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-11 06:45 am (UTC)But Leeteuk being Leeteuk, the message is good but delivered poorly.
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Date: 2017-05-11 09:42 am (UTC)Also, I don't like the undercurrent in many of those comments. 'Entertainers' are looked down upon still, and are sometimes considered the modern equivalent of a gisaeng (or a Japanese geisha), and wrongly and disgustingly suggested to only be worth a small amount for their bodies (see how idols especially pre-debut are taken by their CEOs to 'entertain' business men and government officials). Actors fare better than singers, and singers better than young idols.
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Date: 2017-05-11 06:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-05-12 12:48 am (UTC)Leeteuk said so many questionable things, but this one kinda makes sense. I mean, he's talking in his capacity as an idol?