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The 'MAMA' (Mnet Asian Music Awards) were held with SNSD removed from the ceremony.
How could they have removed SNSD? What is the reason behind this unimaginable situation?


This year's song of the year went to 2NE1's 'I Don't Care,' it is not unreasonable to say
that this song was one of the greatest hits of the year, bit without a doubt SNSD's 'Gee' whipped up a huge storm as well. To be truthful many people are in doubt with the decision as they all agree that 'I Don't Care' did not come anywhere near 'Gee.' Not admitting to this truth is like trying to block out the sun with your hand. This year was the year of idols, especially for the girl groups. SNSD opened the year 2009 and was the centre of attention for the majority of the year. SNSD was the dark horse. Although SNSD were slightly overcome by 2NE1 in the summer, looking throughout the entire year; SNSD dominated. In this reality, we have no choice but to submit to the results of the awards. If we ignore reality then the award ceremony holds no meaning. We cannot judge the groups by its financial success only. We must take vocal ability and musicality into account as well.

If we observe the finalists of MAMA they included Big Bang's G Dragon, 2NE1, 2PM, Kara, Brown Eyed Girls and Super Junior. They are all idols. From this we can conclude that they were chosen through pure financial success only and the support of fan clubs. The award ceremony itself was skewed away from fair judgement.

The very fact that SNSD was disregarded in the ceremony proves the inconsistency of the judgement of MAMA. How could they remove SNSD, the most financially successful song of the year. It completely contradicts their judgement. To be frank there is little difference in talent between SNSD and 2NE1. The same with Kara. If we look only at the skill of a girl group it would without a doubt be Brown Eyed Girls. If the award for best girl group went to Brown Eyed Girls it would have been understandable.

However, that decision would have also been awkward. If vocal skills and musicality were that important, then there should have been the same outcome with the other awards. It was a festival of idol groups of the financially powerful entertainment companies. Looking at the decision for the girl group award, taking out the most successful SNSD and giving the award to Brown Eyed Girls would have been suspicious also.

It is also hard to blame SM for not contributing to the ceremony. This is because last summer (in Korea) the results were pre-announced on 'Mnet Choice.' The protagonists of that day were 2PM, 2NE1 and Lee Hyori. Back then SNSD were not included as well. SNSD have already been through this kind of situation before, if they predicted that the same situation were to occur again, it is understandable that they did not attend to an award ceremony that has nothing to do with them.

Looking at last summer's results for 'Mnet Choice' they asked that the judgements to be made
fairly on financial success only. It is embarrassing to say that the awards were suspiciously given in all the categories. 'MAMA' is not the only one with this problem. This was also the case with the 'Best Film' awards. People could not figure out the standards and criteria to which the films were judged. It is a problem with Korea's standard of the award ceremonies. This is a never ending problem where the awards are skewed towards whoever's wish.

So it is obvious to make this request again. Please hold these kinds of award ceremonies in your personal time and location with your neighbors. Even with the awards being judged by financial success, taking out the country's most loved song makes the award ceremony meaningless to society. In the year of the girl group idols, we saw that SNSD was removed from the awards twice. It is impossible not to say that the way award ceremonies in Korea have become preposterous.

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translation: Just Love~! @ Soshified
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Date: 2009-11-23 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdferguson.livejournal.com
yeah i looove 2ne1 but Gee should've won. i can't NOT dance to it when i hear it.

Date: 2009-11-23 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunts.livejournal.com
LOL I kind of know the key moves to I Don't Care; did it at karaoke once, and then got distracted BY RANDOM SUJU/YOOCHUN ON THE SCREEN. O__O

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Date: 2009-11-23 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] distortedinpink.livejournal.com
Dear Korea,

Every single one of you cannot be pleased 100% of the time.
If you don't like these ~*~*~preposterous~*~*~ and possible *gasp* rigged awards, then go sit down and do a puzzle or smth.

Sincerely,
Leah.



lol hi guise i just woke up

Date: 2009-11-23 08:32 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-11-23 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunts.livejournal.com
Honestly, I don't think there would have been as much of a backlash at MAMA for this particular award if BEG had won it. Because Abracadabra is considered on par with Gee for hit of the YEAR in my opinion.

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Date: 2009-11-23 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telrunyaaa.livejournal.com
I dont even bother to read this..
they just didnt win, what's so strange..

omg >.<
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Date: 2009-11-23 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewokstar.livejournal.com
Gee was just EVERYWHERE.

Date: 2009-11-23 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sya-fhya.livejournal.com
lol my friend went to Korea during the Gee promotion days and he swore Gee was literally EVERYWHERE. on the streets, tv, radios, stores, etc.

Date: 2009-11-23 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunts.livejournal.com
YES. WE KNOW THIS ALREADY. MNET/SM ARE NOT ON GOOD TERMS WITH EACHOTHER. THUS SHIT BE SCREWED.

Date: 2009-11-23 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telrunyaaa.livejournal.com
To be frank there is little difference in talent between SNSD and 2NE1."-

I like SNSD and Im sorry to say this but really.. there isnt much of a difference. Gee was a good song but its getting annoying right now xD

Cant they just accept it?

Date: 2009-11-23 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leap4detonation.livejournal.com
qq cry moar~ It's not a big deal if your favorite group doesn't get an award. There's always more songs to make and awards to earn later. :/

Date: 2009-11-23 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beautifiers.livejournal.com
"We must take vocal ability and musicality into account as well."

So then neither SNSD nor 2NE1 should count *ducks*


:3

Date: 2009-11-23 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sayitisso.livejournal.com
i'm spamming but idk take numbers
2.5/9 of SNSD can sing
3/4 of 2NE1 can sing

clear winner is clear. as far as musicality goes...lol the award wasn't even about talent, was it?

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Date: 2009-11-23 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heroismine.livejournal.com
why do we have to drag this topic around?

Date: 2009-11-23 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hospitalise.livejournal.com
controversy? in kpop??? :OOOO

Date: 2009-11-23 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sayitisso.livejournal.com
hahahahaha

it's no longer a matter of whether there IS a controversy
it's how BIG of a controversy it is

Date: 2009-11-23 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filmsession.livejournal.com
i don't think people are just making a huge deal out of this because they're butthurt. "gee" really was a phenomenon and "i don't care" was nice and all but it wasn't the song of 2009, by any means.

Date: 2009-11-23 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miduhyo.livejournal.com
mte. i think it's being gone over a bit too much, but the backlash is not because people are butthurt -- most people going over it aren't even snsd fans. the issue is that not giving the award to the very clear song of the year compromises MAMA's credibility as an award show.

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Date: 2009-11-23 08:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] leafed.livejournal.com
lol please stop rubbing salt into the wound.
everyone knows Gee is the song of the year, 2NE1 in no way deserved the award, Mnet and SM are fighting, blah blah blah. we get it.

Date: 2009-11-23 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xcherryblossomx.livejournal.com
"SNSD opened the year 2009 and was the centre of attention for the majority of the year. SNSD was the dark horse. Although SNSD were slightly overcome by 2NE1 in the summer, looking throughout the entire year; SNSD dominated."

I disagree, while SNSD dominated the beggining of the year I think they were not the centre of attention for the majority of the year.

But I really think Gee deserved the song of the year award more than I Dont Care.

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Date: 2009-11-23 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herro-is-vip.livejournal.com
lol

I don't even like SNSD (musically) and I liked Gee. Yeah, 2NE1 shouldn't have one. Honestly though? It's MAMA. Who cares?

Date: 2009-11-23 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookie-nut.livejournal.com
THIS. It's a freaking television station award show. It's not even that major. :/

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Date: 2009-11-23 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freezing-flames.livejournal.com
As a 2NE1 fan, I think every award they got was well deserved and I am happy.
Though song of the year had to be Gee, imo.

To me I don't care > Gee (in terms of music/lyrics etc) but Gee was more popular.
It was literally everywhere o_o

Date: 2009-11-23 10:02 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2009-11-24 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smileypasta.livejournal.com
I agree~ This article IS bias, but that's SNSD fans for ya...

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Date: 2009-11-23 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steeele.livejournal.com
I'm just glad BEG won something, they deserve some recognition.

Date: 2009-11-23 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sayitisso.livejournal.com
this, so hard.
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Date: 2009-11-23 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sayitisso.livejournal.com
idgi, what kind of an article is this?
i want facts, man, I WANT NUMBERS. I have my own opinion, I don't need yours.

and seriously, get over the butthurt.

Date: 2009-11-23 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xcherryblossomx.livejournal.com
Someone posted on the MAMA thread some official numbers about albums sales and 2NE1 sold way more than SNSD' GEE album... Gee was like #6 and GD was #1 in sales.

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Date: 2009-11-23 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookie-nut.livejournal.com
If 2NE1 hadn't won anything, I probably would have been irked too, so I can understand why SNSD fans are upset. Still, it's not like MNet is a big award show or even an important one at that. I can kind of see why the other stations decided not to do them.

Date: 2009-11-23 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashiva.livejournal.com
What's news, butthurt fan is butthurt.

Re-posting my earlier comment on awards given @ MAMA:
TBH I was at first somewhat WTF @ a lot of MAMA's winner choices, but then I realized that while the nominations were based on sales figures the actual winners were chosen from among them not based on popularity, but based on quality, and in case of best groups, artists, and artist of the year awards also based on how consistent their work was throughout the judging period, which started already on 2008 fall. Only KARA's award still baffles me, but I guess there were some ahjussi Kamelia members in the judging panel (or maybe some judges thought that dance category was about dance/electronic music instead of dance moves).

Date: 2009-11-23 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steeele.livejournal.com
Kara's win was especially wtf-worthy. If it was for Mister maybe, for for Honey? Srsly? Abracadabra should have won best dance since Gee was out of the running.

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Date: 2009-11-23 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nimco.livejournal.com
so what? I dont see Jewelry complaining to MKMF that they won 8 straight weeks on music bank yet Wondergirls got song of the year but Jewelry won GDA and WG never won on M-Countdown yet they bagged that award. No one said anything about that did they?so butthurt.

Date: 2009-11-23 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telrunyaaa.livejournal.com
this. thankyou.

Date: 2009-11-23 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithgrowsold.livejournal.com
...i. kara=2ne1=snsd? i lol so hard.
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