Article: "Please call me by my name rather than 'heuk hyung'"... Sam Okyere confesses about racism in Korea
Source: Ilgan Sports via Nate
heuk hyung = black brother
1. [+2,057, -89] Ah... heuk hyung.. I never thought of the word as racist and I'm so embarrassed for that. I thought it was just a friendly, witty term of endearment. I'll have to fix that, how does Okyere oppa sound ㅋㅋ
2. [+1,713, -67] He's right. Racism is rampant in Korea. If you're not a handsome blonde English speaker, people will be racist to you.
3. [+1,570, -74] I understand elders being racist because they haven't had much opportunities to come across foreigners but our generation shouldn't be like that, especially to South East Asianers...
4. [+93, -5] If the person feels that he is being discriminated against, then it is our responsibility to stop it
5. [+65, -7] He himself is saying he hates being called black brother so why would anyone try to argue that it's not racist? It's not right at all to call someone by their race. You need to see them as a human being before the color of their skin. It's like Asians having to suffer questions like "Are you a ninja? Are you good at piano? Are you good at math" by foreigners overseas. It doesn't matter if it's a compliment, judging someone by their race is wrong.
6. [+49, -3] I lived in Ghana for about three years and my friends always ask me if I see giraffes and lions everywhere but there are really only dogs ㅋㅋ I could relate so hard when Okyere-ssi said there are only dogs where he's from ㅋㅋ
7. [+42, -7] Black brother... I never thought of that word as wrong but now I see that it might be taken the wrong way by the other side
8. [+38, -4] I never once thought of black brother as racist because I always thought it meant the person had swag and force...
9. [+37, -3] Black brother isn't a word I use myself but I never thought it'd be something to be offended by either. Adding 'hyung' to it, like the first best reply says, was to make it like a term of endearment, but I guess it wasn't taken that way ㅜㅜ
10. [+31, -7] The word black brother itself might not necessarily be considered racist but it is problematic and racist in the fact that it completely ignores Sam Okyere's personality, life experiences, emotions, who he is as an individual person etc and judges him completely based on his skin color alone.
11. [+30, -1] If the person hearing it doesn't like hearing it, then just stop. Whether we mean well by it or not doesn't matter if he doesn't want to hear it.
12. [+25, -15] As a fellow man though, calling someone a black brother is usually meant from a tone of respect ㅋ
13. [+22, -7] When Koreans call someone a black brother though, it's usually to play up the superiority of their black features, no?
14. [+20, -6] Some of these comments have a long way to go... some of you are still trying to argue that it's not racist and how the word comes from a place of respect or how it doesn't mean ill. Let's just get one thing straight: if he says it's wrong to say it, it's wrong to say it. So just stop using it. Stop making up excuses.
15. [+19, -3] Of course if the person hearing it feels bad then we need to stop using it... but I just want him to know that black brother is not a word meant with racist intentions. Koreans use the word 'kkamdoong' as a racist term for black people. Black brother, however... is more used when we want to describe a black person as 'cool' or 'amazing'... but of course, if he doesn't want to hear it, then it's our responsibility to stop using it.
source: netizenbuzz
Source: Ilgan Sports via Nate
heuk hyung = black brother
1. [+2,057, -89] Ah... heuk hyung.. I never thought of the word as racist and I'm so embarrassed for that. I thought it was just a friendly, witty term of endearment. I'll have to fix that, how does Okyere oppa sound ㅋㅋ
2. [+1,713, -67] He's right. Racism is rampant in Korea. If you're not a handsome blonde English speaker, people will be racist to you.
3. [+1,570, -74] I understand elders being racist because they haven't had much opportunities to come across foreigners but our generation shouldn't be like that, especially to South East Asianers...
4. [+93, -5] If the person feels that he is being discriminated against, then it is our responsibility to stop it
5. [+65, -7] He himself is saying he hates being called black brother so why would anyone try to argue that it's not racist? It's not right at all to call someone by their race. You need to see them as a human being before the color of their skin. It's like Asians having to suffer questions like "Are you a ninja? Are you good at piano? Are you good at math" by foreigners overseas. It doesn't matter if it's a compliment, judging someone by their race is wrong.
6. [+49, -3] I lived in Ghana for about three years and my friends always ask me if I see giraffes and lions everywhere but there are really only dogs ㅋㅋ I could relate so hard when Okyere-ssi said there are only dogs where he's from ㅋㅋ
7. [+42, -7] Black brother... I never thought of that word as wrong but now I see that it might be taken the wrong way by the other side
8. [+38, -4] I never once thought of black brother as racist because I always thought it meant the person had swag and force...
9. [+37, -3] Black brother isn't a word I use myself but I never thought it'd be something to be offended by either. Adding 'hyung' to it, like the first best reply says, was to make it like a term of endearment, but I guess it wasn't taken that way ㅜㅜ
10. [+31, -7] The word black brother itself might not necessarily be considered racist but it is problematic and racist in the fact that it completely ignores Sam Okyere's personality, life experiences, emotions, who he is as an individual person etc and judges him completely based on his skin color alone.
11. [+30, -1] If the person hearing it doesn't like hearing it, then just stop. Whether we mean well by it or not doesn't matter if he doesn't want to hear it.
12. [+25, -15] As a fellow man though, calling someone a black brother is usually meant from a tone of respect ㅋ
13. [+22, -7] When Koreans call someone a black brother though, it's usually to play up the superiority of their black features, no?
14. [+20, -6] Some of these comments have a long way to go... some of you are still trying to argue that it's not racist and how the word comes from a place of respect or how it doesn't mean ill. Let's just get one thing straight: if he says it's wrong to say it, it's wrong to say it. So just stop using it. Stop making up excuses.
15. [+19, -3] Of course if the person hearing it feels bad then we need to stop using it... but I just want him to know that black brother is not a word meant with racist intentions. Koreans use the word 'kkamdoong' as a racist term for black people. Black brother, however... is more used when we want to describe a black person as 'cool' or 'amazing'... but of course, if he doesn't want to hear it, then it's our responsibility to stop using it.
source: netizenbuzz
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Date: 2017-01-04 02:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-01-04 03:17 am (UTC)A lot of the comments from #8 downwards need to learn that stereotyping based on race is racist, regardless of whether you perceive the stereotypes to be positive or not. Too many people trying to tell him how he should feel rather than actually caring about how he feels.
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Date: 2017-01-04 03:20 am (UTC)Love your highlighting op. So people can stop making excuses for their faves when people try to teach them and they keep making the same mistakes "bc culture".
But anyway I'm happy to read such good responses (apart from those few making excuses ofc). I hope everyone respects his request.
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Date: 2017-01-04 03:50 am (UTC)i really love the 14th comment lol
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Date: 2017-01-04 03:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-01-04 04:07 am (UTC)I want this tattooed around my ankle (not really, but I love this).
I'm really glad to read supportive comments about this. I'm just glad this discussion is being had in general. I've literally run into a wall with a couple Korean-speaking people who defend things like "black soul", "black-this, black-that" as part of their normal speech. I'm glad these Knetz were willing to listen to Sam.
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Date: 2017-01-04 04:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-01-04 04:41 am (UTC)My point being that was not to play up some 'superiority' - they were teasing the poor kid.
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Date: 2017-01-04 04:55 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2017-01-04 05:09 am (UTC)great comment
kudos to sam okyere for speaking on the racism he experiences
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Date: 2017-01-04 05:16 am (UTC)Sam's a champ. I love it when he guests on variety shows. (Isn't someone on omona connected to him somehow?)
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Date: 2017-01-04 05:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-01-04 06:22 am (UTC)I'm actually pleasantly surprised at the comments. I hate when people pull out the "Well I have a black/asian/striped/alien friend, and THEY don't feel offended by (offensive thing)!!!!111~"
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Date: 2017-01-04 07:10 am (UTC)Wow. Pleasantly surprised at how accepting and openminded the comments are. I don't know who this person is but I'm glad he spoke up about this. It's definitely a step in the right direction.
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Date: 2017-01-04 07:11 am (UTC)i might go on a rant so excuse me but
imo in SK (mostly any asian country) racism is EXTREMELY active especially in their media and everyday life since their elderly live longer and therefore have enough time to still spread it amongst the youth as they do in the US, and because for some reason, white has been beaten into their heads by the eurocentric values as "strange, exotic, new" (which is funny because this is what white people use to describe anyone that isnt white) while black people are seen as thugs (just listen to 90% of k-idols, aren't they always viewing black people with that old ass assumption that we all kill, rape, and steal or are still thugs and gangsters and therefore are less of a person than them yet still worthy of being mocked and having everything they've ever made become popular in a country they can't even visit!) ie. the taeyeon x wiz situation. i find it extremely surprising to see these netizens honestly eager to change the way black people are viewed in SK , im more surprised at the fact that most of them didnt try to deflect and downplay his emotions and realized his feelings are extremely valid and hopefully this article will get out and these idols will see it and stop acting tf out; all of these famous black peope that they lowkey love covering and talking about, they definitely don't know how you treat their people lmao but if they DID im sure all these collabs and inspirations would cease to exist
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Date: 2017-01-04 07:13 am (UTC)I expected 'well hyung if you don't want to be called black don't be so dark kekekekeke' type comments sadly.
Hopefully more people will understand that hypervisibility and 'positive' stereotypes are still harmful and dehumanizing.
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Date: 2017-01-04 07:31 am (UTC)I love him and I hope they really will stop calling him that
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Date: 2017-01-04 07:33 am (UTC)to quote mark ruffalo, i'm glad sk's having this conversation, it's time
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Date: 2017-01-04 07:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-01-04 08:32 am (UTC)It's nice to read positive response, Sam is such a sweet heart and a brave man
I really love him a lot
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Date: 2017-01-04 09:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-01-04 10:09 am (UTC)Lately I've been disheartened because everytime there's a conversation about racism people always trivialize the problem and are not willing to be more accepting, so it's nice to see that at least there are people in the other side of the world who are trying to change for the better.
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Date: 2017-01-04 11:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-01-04 01:12 pm (UTC)Someone gets it. I don't believe that everyone who uses "black brother" is using it as a compliment (lbr) but I'm sure there are people who think they are being cute. It's nice at least someone's willing to say why it's a stupid title regardless of your intent to be cute/nice
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Date: 2017-01-04 03:30 pm (UTC)i loled so hard when i read #6 comments about dogs cause it's true
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