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As we all know, one of the highlights of the 2016 Mnet Asian Musics Awards awards happened to be the social media dispute between Taeyeon and Wiz Kalifa after their joint performance was cancelled last minute.

DJ Bonic's, who was also present at the MAMA's, has since taken to twitter to explain things further following a barrage of angry fans demanding an apology and explanation after both Taeyeon and Wiz posted their own versions of what happened through their respective SNS accounts.


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It’s clear after talking to Wiz Khalifa’s team that these tweets referenced and mentioned Taeyeon directly, instead of the 2016 MAMA or SM Entertainment, due to a complete and total misunderstanding.

Wiz Khalifa and his team work primarily in the U.S., where an artist as big as Taeyeon would have total and complete control over their activities. While U.S. artists are still signed to labels and have massive distribution deals that may place restrictions on them, it is unusual for an artist to back out of a concert, stage, and/or performance without making the decision themselves.

“We didn’t know that Taeyeon couldn’t perform without her agency’s approval and that they had the final decision in all matters.” — Wiz Khalifa’s Team



Because of this, all tweets written by Wiz Khalifa and DJ Bonics that were related to their collaboration stage were directed towards Taeyeon. The assumption was that if Taeyeon backed out of their collaboration stage, she *must* have made the final call. It is clear to K-Pop fans that she definitely did not make the final call.

Performing the song as a special stage is such an enormous opportunity that it was unclear to Wiz Khalifa and his team why she would cancel it. They believed that no matter the reason, Taeyeon would have fought back and demanded to perform the song if she had wanted to.

In our [Koreaboo's] conversations with DJ Bonics, it was clear he was extremely disappointed this stage and performance did not happen.

He revealed, “She sounded amazing. Nobody over here was like, she’s wack. Nobody over here was like, she can’t sing. She sounded so amazing.”




The confusion was confirmed when DJ Bonics revealed, “We are in charge of our own artistry. If Wiz wants to do something, he’s going to do it. We didn’t know that K-Pop artists don’t manage themselves 100%.”



The most revealing statements came when Koreaboo discussed the rehearsal with DJ Bonics. Below is a quick summary of what happened during this rehearsal.


    1. Wiz Khalifa and his team flew into Hong Kong a day earlier (Thursday) at the request of MAMA to do a rehearsal with Taeyeon.
    2. Wiz rehearsed by himself as Taeyeon had left around 1am.
    3. The AR used during this rehearsal was with Taeyeon’s voice on it.
    4. No problems were reported by SM Entertainment or the 2016 MAMA during these rehearsals.
    5. No one told DJ Bonics that this was the wrong track or that something was wrong with this track.
    6. When Taeyeon left the rehearsal, Wiz Khalifa’s team was told it was because she was not feeling well.
    7. They were told that she was going to the hospital.
    8. Wiz Khalifa and Taeyeon did another rehearsal the next day.
    9. Representatives revealed to DJ Bonics that the track being used was the wrong file.
    10. Wiz Khalifa’s team attempted to rehearse again with correct file, but they were told that it was too late.


“They gave me both MR and AR files to download. I downloaded one of them. I played it for them. That’s the whole point of the Thursday night rehearsal. Whether or not I played the AR or MR, that’s what rehearsals are for. On Thursday night, I played the AR. Not one person, not the representative from MAMA or [SM Entertainment] told me it was the wrong one.


She didn’t stay for the rehearsal on Thursday. They said she didn’t feel well, she had to go to the hospital. Whether they meant hotel or hospital, she left the rehearsal. We flew that day to attend the rehearsal. We rehearsed and no one told me it was the wrong track on Thursday. They said, ‘Cool, it’s all good.’ The next day we did the same thing, they said, ‘It’s the wrong one.’

They waited until the day after for the next rehearsal to say that it was the wrong file. When we tried to rehearse again, they said, ‘We don’t have enough time. Let’s just do it the way we did it.’

We could have fixed the track and prepared the correct one if Taeyeon’s team had stayed behind and told us that it was the wrong track or told us earlier it was the wrong track.”


Wiz Khalifa tweeted that Taeyeon was in the hospital prior to MAMA which was immediately refuted by Taeyeon herself in an Instagram Story post. In her post, Taeyeon said, “I didn’t go to the hospital buddy.. it says here I’m washing up after waiting for you.

DJ Bonics confirmed that they were absolutely told she was leaving the rehearsal to go to the hospital because she was not feeling well. He states that there may have been a misunderstanding and either SM Entertainment or MAMA representatives might have meant hotel. He made it clear that Wiz Khalifa did not make up these statements.

“Why would we make any of this up? What do we have to gain?” — DJ Bonics


“We pleaded with them, I personally told them that I really wanted them to perform together with the right version.” — DJ Bonics


DJ Bonics clarified this tweet, revealing, “It’s so unfortunate. We flew so far. Taeyeon just performed. Wiz just performed. There are no technical problems. We didn’t understand why they couldn’t perform together. The equipment was working fine. Everything was working fine.




Things were further complicated when Wiz Khalifa tweeted about Taeyeon wanting to be on a “different stage.” DJ Bonics added to the tweet by revealing that they were told Taeyeon would look too short next to Wiz Khalifa, by representatives from either MAMA or SM Entertainment.

DJ Bonics revealed to Koreaboo, “Why would they even tell us things like, ‘Oh, we want to put her on a different stage because she looks too short next to [Wiz Khalifa]’? This is what our tour manager was told by them.




While fans were making DJ Bonics aware that the K-Pop industry does not work the same as the US industry, DJ Bonics clarified that he continued to tweet about Taeyeon making her own decisions because it was simply not understandable how a world star could not put her foot down and demand that she perform. In their eyes, any artist as great and as popular as Taeyeon would have simply told them she would be doing this stage no matter what.

Once again, this is a misunderstanding that Koreaboo has clarified with Wiz Khalifa’s team, explaining the nuances of the K-Pop industry and how unlikely it would be for Taeyeon to have full control over this stage.

DJ Bonics revealed that they were only made aware that Taeyeon would not be performing with Wiz Khalifa minutes before his performance. This was after they had decided on singing over the track as the best option after rehearsals.

“We were sleeping up until 10 minutes before Wiz went on stage due to the rehearsal night before and jetlag. Our management was dealing with it while we were sleeping. Before we were sleeping, everything was okay and the stage was going on as planned. That’s how it was brought to us.” — DJ Bonics


Taeyeon’s only statements regarding this story have been made through her Instagram Story. In her first message, she directs it towards fans who were curious about the reasons why she did not perform with Wiz Khalifa.

From her message, it seems clear she had no part whatsoever in the decision to cancel the performance. It also seems clear that she was not made aware of all the reasons that were told to Wiz Khalifa’s team.

Koreaboo also asked for clarification for the post allegedly made by a contractor present at the reharsal that was quckly passed around on twitter, this is the response:

“Wiz never left rehesarsals. He was there the whole time. We rehearsed even after Taeyeon had left at 1am. There were no technical problems with our equipment or setting up equipment.
We did have problems with our ear packs that were provided by MAMA. There was a bad buzz in it and we had to fix them.

There were no problems with any of the files. MR and AR are just files that you can even play on iTunes. It has nothing to do with our equipment.

Taeyeon left and no one from her team stayed behind either. Wiz and I rehearsed without Taeyeon after 1am. Wiz never left. He was either on stage, beside the stage or in his changing room the entire time.

When we rehearsed the next day, that’s when we were told it was the wrong file. I asked to rehearse again with the correct file, which would take minutes to download. They said there was no time and that she would just perform as rehearsed, over the AR.

When Taeyeon left around 1am, they told us it was because she had to go to the hospital. Maybe they meant the hotel. It feels like they told us it was the hospital so that we couldn’t say anything. We can’t be critical if she went to the hospital.”
— DJ Bonics


Koreaboo asked for clarifications on a few points that we knew fans would want answers to. The most important question from those who were not necessarily Taeyeon’s fans, but K-Pop fans in general was: “Did Taeyeon lie?”

In her first message, she revealed that she was waiting for Wiz. However, the claims above clearly refute that Wiz left rehearsals. Here’s the response we received from DJ Bonics:

"The misunderstanding might have come from Wiz going to his changing room after every rehearsal. It’s just normal for the artist to head back to their room after going on stage and doing their thing. They don’t stick around and talk to everyone. Wiz performs, he rehearses, and heads back to his room. He comes back out, rehearses again, sticks around on stage or around the stage to make adjustments and then goes back to his room.He never completely left during rehearsals. Not once."


From the response, it appears that Taeyeon might have also been given the wrong information. There could have been staff who told her that Wiz had left the building.

The question that now remains in the minds of fans is, “Who is responsible for cancelling the performance and why was Wiz Khalifa’s team told that she was in the hospital?”


Below is a collection of DJBoni's remaining tweets stating the beef between Taeyeon and Wiz was a misunderstanding caused by a third party. Whether this third party is SM or MNet remains to be revealed.





Sources:
Koreaboo
DJBonics
WizKhalifa

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I summarized it the best I could without posting the same info over and over again as to avoid confusion. You can read the full, and far more comprehensive, article over at Koreaboo.

I hope it's not confusing.

Edited thrice, hope it's good enough now, mods.
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Date: 2016-12-08 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
That pic looks like a teaser for some hollywood face off XD

Date: 2016-12-08 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
The situation is still unclear and this explains nothing XD
Everybody is still unprofessional as fuck
SM and Mnet still suck

BUT
I'm just glad for once a drama has no high stake, just pure non problematic mess
The back and forth was hilarious, so thank you MAMA

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Date: 2016-12-08 01:56 pm (UTC)
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2016 is so wild next thing I'll be reading is Chanyeol having a beef with someone from 1D

Date: 2016-12-08 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
Now I want it
two of the biggest fandom fighting





this could lead to an actual war though

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Date: 2016-12-08 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironicmustache.livejournal.com
this was my favorite part, and i dont think it ever got included in any of the posts here!

I see y'all. (https://www.instagram.com/p/BNhW2LaFju5/)

A photo posted by Wiz Khalifa (@wizkhalifa) on Dec 2, 2016 at 8:18am PST




(i cant believe there are STILL fans spamming him with "say sorry to taeyeon!". christ, people need to get a grip)

Date: 2016-12-08 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaelissi.livejournal.com
I'm not even a Wiz fan, but I love him for this. Those fans can kiss both our asses.

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Date: 2016-12-08 01:58 pm (UTC)
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Whatever bruh. That banmal told me everything I need to know...or moreso just told me what I already knew.

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Date: 2016-12-08 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turtles-tszx.livejournal.com
Damn MNET trying to sabotage ha! YG probably paid them. lol jk.

I feel bad for both of them tho if the whole thing happened bcos of SM or MNET. It's embarrassing to whiz and it's damaging taeyeon's image.

Date: 2016-12-08 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangerstheme.livejournal.com
Damn MNET trying to sabotage ha! YG probably paid them. lmaoo i wish that was true

Date: 2016-12-08 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] welljustguess.livejournal.com
thank you very much op

Date: 2016-12-08 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noonakaia.livejournal.com
Everytime I see both names in one post I'm just like

Image

Date: 2016-12-08 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] contralilium.livejournal.com
basically what I got is that MNET and SM/Taeyeon were totally looking down on Wiz and this collab (even though they were the ones who invited Wiz in the first place)

That informal language Taeyeon used was uncalled for (and imo sullies her image) because at the end of the day, neither Wiz nor the DJ said anything bad about her, they told what they knew to be the truth. And I'm not even mad about them taking to Twitter because it's pretty clear that there was no way for them to communicate with Taeyeon/SM or the MAMAs. I just cannot believe how freaking unprofessional the MAMAs were with this. I know it's not going to alter their reputation but I wish it would, at least with western artists. Imagine signing up for this show for fun and coming out being flamed by racist kpop fans. I mean, a Taeyeon fan superimposed Wiz's face on to a picture of a slave as he was being whipped, and @ed him calling him the N-word. DJ Bonics still can't post a tweet about whatever show he has coming up without being bombarded by her fans demanding that he both apologize and realease the track. Honestly, how messed up for them to agree to that MAMA performance and be treated like that. It's disgusting.
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Date: 2016-12-08 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironicmustache.livejournal.com
And I'm not even mad about them taking to Twitter because it's pretty clear that there was no way for them to communicate with Taeyeon/SM or the MAMAs.

mte! it's so weird that her stans were like ~it's rude for him to call her out! if he had a problem he should of brought it up prvately!1!~ ... like, .... you think he just has her number? you think he has contacts within SM? you think he has contacts with anyone at MNET? definitely not. he was there for like 24 hours.

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Date: 2016-12-08 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pourtant.livejournal.com
failure of communication is real. it's hilarious and sad that koreaboo has done way more to salvage taeyeon's image in this than SM has. still side-eyeing her for that banmal in her snapchat (that was just her being purposefully disrespectful knowing she could get away with it).
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Date: 2016-12-08 02:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] beanii.livejournal.com
If that is the case why did thryey have to go through such lengths to lie though. Even if taeyeon really had no sense of power, she could atleast tell Wiz's team that her company pulled her from the performance.

This explains nothing and I have enough conviction to believe that koreaboo was just saying shit.

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Date: 2016-12-08 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dynamite-state.livejournal.com
Could have performed a Lifted remix instead and avoided all that

Image

Date: 2016-12-08 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
I see what you did there

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Date: 2016-12-08 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaelissi.livejournal.com
This thing is still shady af. Fact is, lbr, Wiz was lied to repeatedly by someone from the Korean side to get Taeyeon out of that stage and I doubt they did it just for funzies. Biggest thing I'm not buying is that Taeyeon had NO! input in the matter whatsoever, but that's not even what really grinds my gears. They treated this foreign (black) artist with such disrespect and then even tried to put the blame on him.

P.s. Taeyeon's banmal was not "understandable" at that point, cause if he was Korean or someone she respected, she would have never

Date: 2016-12-08 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4minutesluts.livejournal.com
so we're still saying taeyeon has no influence over her performances? ok

Date: 2016-12-08 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmoon666.livejournal.com
As if anyone can believe that. She is one of SM little favorites. She does get a LOT of input

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Date: 2016-12-08 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hurtmybones.livejournal.com
lol ok koreaboo, she was still rude af tho and that's not on mnet or sm so🤷

Date: 2016-12-08 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] japataz.livejournal.com
Anytime the truth requires this much explanation you know someone is lying. Wiz would have had no reason to lie and Tae and her fans had no reason to be as disrespectful as they were.

Adding: Taeyeon has spoken out multiple times about bad comments directed at her, phone calls, etc when it involved her. Yet, as aware as she is about all of these things, she knowingly left a disrespectful message on her snap story basically making it okay for her fans to continue their racial slurs and derogatory remarks. She may not have control over her career but if she can make statements via her snap she should have told her fans to back off.

Date: 2016-12-08 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merely-a-facade.livejournal.com
Anytime the truth requires this much explanation you know someone is lying.

this LOL

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Date: 2016-12-08 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mad-nux.livejournal.com
it's obvious there's miscommunication but teyeon was so immature

Date: 2016-12-08 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ponponway.livejournal.com
"however you spell it" lol

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Date: 2016-12-08 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yixingsforehead.livejournal.com
so what i took from this is it's not only taeyeon who's unprofessional, but her whole team is unprofessional.

Date: 2016-12-08 07:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-12-08 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunica1990.livejournal.com
She was still rude so...

Date: 2016-12-08 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjspice.livejournal.com
Lol Miscommunication my ass. Don't be surprised if no one ever wants to work with you , Trayawn.

Date: 2016-12-08 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] broadcities.livejournal.com
??? this still doesn't clarify much more except that it makes SM/ taeyeon's management to look worse

Date: 2016-12-08 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myra9.livejournal.com
Lol, the comments here are exactly what i expected.

Date: 2016-12-09 09:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-12-08 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodtaki2.livejournal.com
Like I said before, whether the fault lies on Taeyeon, MAMA staff or SME, the way she responded to it afterwards with her dismissive "u dun undertand, I said "hotel, not hospital lol" is rude and it was 100% on her, and not on anybody else.

Date: 2016-12-08 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com
I don't really like thrice as a word
Idk why, it sounds bad

Date: 2016-12-08 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabulousdoll.livejournal.com
lol now I always relate "Thrice" to Twice's haters (I don't remember when fans started to call them like that)

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Date: 2016-12-08 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kamoteatmani.livejournal.com
Okay well... how does Koreaboo even know the amount of say Taeyeon has with her performances? That article basically confirms nothing as Koreaboo's opinion about the k-ent industry is nothing short of what us fans already know but has never confirmed.

Someone either Mnet or SM may have fucked shit over but that doesn't justify how Taeyeon's handled the matter. I mean she was never great at risk management but I'd think it be basic human decency to at least address your accuser in a language they'd understand. The use of banmal even makes it worse as well.
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