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EXO’s Lay is at the center of attention for his speech at MAMA 2016 which some are accusing to be direct shade.

The controversial line in Lay’s speech is, “In China there’s a saying that the Yangtze River’s back waves will push off the waves in front. I hope EXO will prove this saying to be false and forever stand at the top of the highest mountain.”

The proverb essentially explains how newcomers will always overtake the old. The speech could be considered innocent as multiple EXO-L are stating. It makes sense that an artist who has won an award would not want to be overtaken by rookies.

However, multiple fans on Twitter were extremely angered by his speech. Most of these fans claim that the speech was directed somewhat towards BTS, inciting even more friction between EXO-L and ARMY.

Here are some of those tweets:










sources: koreaboo twitter delia_zzz MooJiaes deathjoon Taengveins

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Date: 2016-12-02 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purple-dust.livejournal.com
How dare he wants the best for his group by working hard together.

Date: 2016-12-02 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dickslikejesus.livejournal.com
ARMY'S are so fucking sensitive jesus christ.

It's a little suspect to say, but I don't think it means anything other than that he hopes EXO remains on top and relevant for a long time. They are currently one of the most relevant, if not THE most relevant kpop boygroup (kpop group in general) and they're what 4-5 years old? They still have a lot of time to keep their spot at the top of the mountain. lighten up.

Date: 2016-12-02 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeebs.livejournal.com
fack off
geez yeah feel ya the rookies are hungry so you old timers gotta stay twice as hungry.
these fans need to relax

Date: 2016-12-02 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sethelaezekiel.livejournal.com
his speeches are the best lmfao hes so passionate

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go awf zhang zaddy

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Date: 2016-12-02 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodtaki2.livejournal.com
Every year you'll have fans fighting over who deserved Best Artist, Best Album and Best male dance perf, so it was expected. But i've seen both sides' "objective and constructive" arguments, acting like their group deserved it more and acting "mature" like their group is so much better than the other. ... Nah.

Date: 2016-12-02 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diplodorkus.livejournal.com
man, I won't even reach this far for the TV remote, how do these people have the effort to reach this far for this??

Date: 2016-12-02 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seulgibear.livejournal.com
lmao 😂
tbh people have been making it worse acting like it's some kind of shade towards bts when the saying is true for exo. they were the oldest group at the show (not counting the solo artists who were around longer) and both twice and bts are younger so it's only natural that exo will start mellowing down and making room for newer groups

Date: 2016-12-03 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 365daysafter.livejournal.com
oldest group at the show! omg...

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Date: 2016-12-02 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaelissi.livejournal.com
It's pretty much directed at everyone's non-XO fave, but I don't see how it's an [[[INSULT]]]. I guess since MAMA was relatively boring, people are looking for the thing to be angry about. They should have given best album to anyone but XO. That would have been more entertaining.

Date: 2016-12-02 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happydirections.livejournal.com
people were already making the "pray for mnet's call center if they don't win" joke before they even got to the category lmao. it would've been entertaining to say the least
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Date: 2016-12-02 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmmalvina.livejournal.com
i hate these fan wars because they're defying all rules of logic in the process. what's next? "how dare he get excited exo won something?!" "how dare he promote exo's new album!" "how dare he perform at exo concert WHILE BTS IS JUST AS DESERVING TO PERFORM AT THIS ARENA"

Date: 2016-12-02 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happydirections.livejournal.com
the "never don't mind about a thing"- tag is hilarious, i might make it my go to slogan.
anyway, people are being dramatic as always lmao

Date: 2016-12-02 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soyunatetera.livejournal.com

OMG first time I see that tag! It's hilarious

Date: 2016-12-02 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killua89.livejournal.com
lol why I am not surprised Armys make everything about them/bts. It was a nice speech tbh

Date: 2016-12-02 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com

yixing is honestly such a sweetheart. without him the haters would be so starved. he's keeping them alive and healthy. when will they thank him for all he's done for them???

Date: 2016-12-02 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jinkiestabi.livejournal.com
Were the MAMA's THAT boring? What is this? Lol.

Everybody needs to go take a nap.

Date: 2016-12-02 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chimpansee.livejournal.com
Well there was no Seungri sitting on Sehun's lap this time nor Baekhyun looking awkward as Taeyeon walked past him... the best meme I saw was a Timbaland meme... so yeah 't was pretty boring but I enjoyed it lol
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Date: 2016-12-02 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeebs.livejournal.com
the more shit he gets the more I luv him
Im rid or die for U Lay

Date: 2016-12-02 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happydirections.livejournal.com
true love, beautiful

Date: 2016-12-02 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haixiao.livejournal.com
do people want him to say "yeah it's been a great few years but we're gonna chill out now and stop working as hard so other people can get the awards" or smth? i am so confused

Date: 2016-12-03 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamer-easy.livejournal.com
"Thanks for the award, you guys can have the next one, we're all gonna go sleep for about six months.' *falls off stage*

Date: 2016-12-02 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] racquelle2005.livejournal.com
I cant wait for bb to come back lol but if anything im glad exo-l's finally moved on to starting shit with a group they are actually on the same petty lvl with.

Date: 2016-12-03 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoursnow.livejournal.com
cackling

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Date: 2016-12-02 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yixingsforehead.livejournal.com
lol i'm sending hugs to lay, he's proverbs are always interesting.
there's so much to drag him for, drag him for the south china sea stuff or so, why even bother with this speech...

Date: 2016-12-02 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chimpansee.livejournal.com
Isn't he just saying 'look at EXO still standing strong'? I swear, Armies can be so extra. I love BTS but, please... they're doing great, there's no need to be so defensive all the time.

Date: 2016-12-02 11:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-12-02 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjspice.livejournal.com
REACHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

Date: 2016-12-02 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohsnaplettes.livejournal.com
let BTS and EXO live 😴 both groups are fine, idg the need for ~*~shade~*~ and ~*~pettiness~*~

why can't we all just love hot korean boys in peace

Date: 2016-12-03 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm-casablancas.livejournal.com
IKR, both groups are talented, why fans have to ruin everything, ugh.

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Date: 2016-12-02 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] racquelle2005.livejournal.com
also screaming at the exo-l's in this post talking shit about armies when yall fandom literally called MMA cause yall was butt hurt they didnt get bts award. Like ya'll have no fucking room to talk.
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Date: 2016-12-02 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caipirinhas.livejournal.com
tbh everyone is messy. exo-ls are posting screenshots saying bts didn't bow and are cocky with how they walk to center stage, etc etc. kpop twitter is funny.

let's all just be happy everyone performed safely and got some recognition =/
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Date: 2016-12-02 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pourtant.livejournal.com
tbh everyone is messy. exo-ls are posting screenshots saying bts didn't bow and are cocky with how they walk to center stage, etc etc. kpop twitter is funny.

this. people on both sides are being ridiculous because it's the internet so the petty competition to prove that the other fandom is the worst is just lol.
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Date: 2016-12-02 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opd-devil.livejournal.com
as a neutral, I'm just sitting here and eating popcorn. :3

Date: 2016-12-02 11:56 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2016-12-02 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angela-derp-otp.livejournal.com
like i know ya'll wanna say his speech was innocent but lbr, he isn't that ~innocent~ he knows what the fuck he is doing and saying and this shade was pretty obvious.


I like Lay but he has proven a long time ago he isn't that innocent, selfless angel his fans wanted him to be.


And overall music quality speaking, I think BTS are heading in a direction that EXO will never be able to walk. I think this year BTS released superior (and by far) music especially compared to most idol groups. And I say this completely unbiased, I actually loved Monster and Lotto and have it in constant replay, but WINGS caught me off guard. I have high expectations for BTS now lol.



Saying that, I say yassss give me drama.

Date: 2016-12-02 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] belintuchiha.livejournal.com
being biased or unbiased, I think music taste/likes- saying one is superior than other is really subjective lol
I particularly disliked both releases, found them to be really bad except for like one or two songs.
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