just like their fans: lay has no manners, puts hands in pocket during speech

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

Pann: Idol who became really arrogant

1. [+222, -13] We don't know him

2. [+163, -10] Lay's Weibo and Instagram profile picture is still the South China Sea. Is he fucking blind? I've never seen someone who puts their hands in pockets when winning an award.

3. [+157, -7] I'm sorry, Sangdoo has no manners

4. [+62, -2] I'm sorry, he's a traitor and he doesn't know how to behave

5. [+60, -10] TOP also put his hands in pockets when he was saying his winning speech ㅋㅋㅋ

6. [+54, -2] I'm an EXO fan. Before the controversies, I thought Lay was kind but he's becoming more and more arrogant. Was he always like this?

7. [+48, -3] Food Xing needs to wake up. He even stole food from a kid who was 4 years younger than him. He needs to leave the group.

8. [+37, -2] He's a Chinese solo artist though? What is he doing there?

9. [+35, -2] Please call him a solo artist instead of an idol

10. [+32, -0] Jang Hyunseung of EXO. Oh, he's also Jang, Zhang Yixing.

sources: kpopkfans pann

Comments

[pepsi-twist9.livejournal.com]

Is this a big no-no in Korean culture? The reactions seem OTT but I know Asian respect is a huge thing (I am Asian, just not Korean)

[cafetin99.livejournal.com]

What's a Sangdoo?

Also, "10. [+32, -0] Jang Hyunseung of EXO. Oh, he's also Jang, Zhang Yixing."
LMAOO

[sparkb.livejournal.com]

When exo appear on Infinity Challenge, Yoo Jaesuk ask Park Myungsoo to shake hands with exo while greet them by their name (bcs YJS knows PMS didnt know exo name beside chanyeol and suho). So after chanyeol and suho he just blurt out random name to other thus Lay = Sangdoo

[bishieaddict.livejournal.com]

maybe he was cold...

[fifi-moon.livejournal.com]

his hip thrusts in their performance gave me life

[pippopippo.livejournal.com]

Omg did he see what the netizens said about him for putting his hands in his pockets.....:( pic.twitter.com/WfgIJrqw7n (https://t.co/WfgIJrqw7n)

— little mix news (@beykhyuns) November 19, 2016 (https://twitter.com/beykhyuns/status/800041090195881984)

:(

[honeebs.livejournal.com]

most definitely, they all did.
men and slacks, hands just slide right in.

[redgreendress.livejournal.com]

Is that a cultural thing? Because I don't get it...but even if he was disrespectful by Korean cultural standards, that's no justification for the racist comments, obviously. smh at netizens who can't call someone out for being disrespectful without being way more offensive. Way to lose the moral high ground.

[rachelrainna.livejournal.com]

i totally agree that netizens are batshit and overreact. i'm not korean but it's a cultural thing i'm guessing because the taiwanese side of family was against it. so it's possible that it could also be a big deal in sk. growing up, boys were reprimanded if they had their hands in their pockets when speaking to adults or facing someone like say a teacher or giving a presentation to a client. my parents would also get mad at me if i had jacket/pants pockets and did the same thing while speaking to them. it's a small thing, but it can make it look like you're not interested in the conversation or it can look like you think you're above the conversation/the person you're interacting with. given that this is a /work/ event and lay is facing the public, it could be a big deal for some? like i'd shake my head at it but i wouldn't banish him or nuthin. iirc netizens also got mad at another idol for doin the same thing. but netizens get mad at everything lol.....

[honeebs.livejournal.com]

yawn fans y'all are make my head hurt.
sure I don't like men who have hands in their pants but that's just me, if you are in the workplace it gives me lazy fucker vibes.
This isn't a reason to escort a man to the airport fuck off netizens/fans alike.

[amylia.livejournal.com]

Funny isn't it, now they are bashing him. But when he really leaves, the same people are crying `oppa, don't go' `traitor' etc. knetz should really make up their freaking mind.

[saemcrh.livejournal.com]

Even if it's seen as disrespectful from a cultural standpoint, a simple "that was disrespectful of him, I hope he takes more care in the future". It's not a mistake worthy of outrage.

But of course all these xenophobes and racists will take any opportunity to sling hateful rhetoric at people.

[hellicoptajuuce.livejournal.com]

Its comfy thi netizens dont lie

[yixingsforehead.livejournal.com]

lol
when i watched this originally i was like "just take out your hands from your pockets for a moment pls at least"
i don't think it's only a korean thing.... in much of europe this is also seen disrespectful, although it maybe a business etiquette thing, so might not be applied to artists.

made me wonder if he had cuts on his hands or his trousers were too big or he was really just tired and didn't give a fuck about it all. probably the last one, he didn't even want to speak during the interview.

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

idk about yesterday but today he had some cuts on his hands, sooo idk. he was prolly just tired and dgaf. but yes, its slightly disrespectful, but boy always puts his hands in his pocket.

[misspoirot.livejournal.com]

Ok but he stole food from whom? I dont understand half of these comments

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

Ikr?? Thats the real scandal ( if true)!!

[haixiao.livejournal.com]

netizens were just waiting for him to do smth even vaguely rude so they could start saying stupid shit

[xxmannequin.livejournal.com]

I'd like to know the context behind some of this comments - Sangdoo, stealing food from a kid.. what?

[sparkb.livejournal.com]

Sangdoo is kind of nickname he got from exo appearance on infinity challenge. Copy from my reply above:

Yoo Jaesuk ask Park Myungsoo to shake hands with exo while bid them goodbye by their name (bcs YJS knows PMS didnt know exo name beside chanyeol and suho). So after chanyeol and suho he just blurt out random name to other thus Lay = Sangdoo

[pandaapple27.livejournal.com]

I can't speak on whether this is rude or not since I'm not korean, but boy looks fine as hell with those hands in his pockets.

[dreamer-easy.livejournal.com]

I think he's probably just trying to look cool as hell (and succeeding tbh).

[by-venoms-sting.livejournal.com]

Who did he steal food from?

[goshipgurl.livejournal.com]

boy also loves to sit with his legs wide open, im surprised netizens havent called him out yet

[lazmy.livejournal.com]

with those thighs I'm not seeing the problem

[elisaorange.livejournal.com]

This kind of thing would usually read as arrogant or too nonchalant if you're accepting an award. I get that and I grew up in North America.

[nekkedness.livejournal.com]

pann exo posts are filled with vile whats new. ?


p.s. search 씽이 on twitter and you will find out that literally no fan is talking about this or cares >.>

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

No wonder he always look so dead in korea

[honey-baymax.livejournal.com]

Yet they conveniently ignore that he was the one who bowed the longest. Interesting.

[lazmy.livejournal.com]

um he's always one of the most polite members. his hands get cold and he gets dragged???

[psharp10.livejournal.com]

i can see the disrespect? but their hate for it is ott as usual and yixing prob didn't do it out of disrespect anyway

[jinkiestabi.livejournal.com]

.................okay.

[zydratee.livejournal.com]

I can't tell if this is a cultural thing or if netizens are just being awful (I mean, that's a given, but awful for absolutely 0 reason)

[sayuridoll.livejournal.com]

is it just super rude in korean culture or is bc he's part of the china line?

[bunica1990.livejournal.com]

both