i am so disappointed by that scene, it was totally unnecessary??? the song didnt instantly grab me but their title tracks are usually growers for me. the aesthetic of the video without the dude is a++ though. holy shit moonbyul, she's never looked so good.
aww man. that elevator scene really soured the whole thing for me... :(
other wise they all looked great and sounded amazing. loved the aesthetics and cinematography. i just wish they found a less sleazy looking guy and just didn't have that scene at all.
This MV is such a visual feast for the eyes. The sets, the cinematography, the effects, everything is perfection. ALSO GIVE THEIR STYLISTS A RAISE. IT'S RARE TO HAVE AN ERA WHERE EVERY SINGLE GROUP MEMBER LOOKS STUNNING. MOON BYUL NEEDS TO DATE ME PLS This could've done without the dude but I'll take it. The song is great too and it's a bit more of their throwback sound than their last few releases
What was the casting call for this mv: Most average looking white male with try-hardiness vibe please and thank you
Also NO at the subtext of this mv culminating in that elevator shit
Edited to add: I feel like the whole mv was going with the mythos of the aggressive guy so the elevator scene was in line with the rest of the mv instead of one out of place scene.
This elevator scene is literally the repetition of the thing from the drama "Our Gab Soon" (except it was wall there as I remember) - the girl do not wanting the kiss, struggling, being forced, but then surrendering bc it's so romantic ofc, all with hand/fingers unclenching;/ There was NB transalted article with comments about how this was dating violence, also discussion here on Omona and now we're getting this mv;(
I'm so happy I finally love their title song again (last one was Piano Man...it's been ages) ;A; I hope this is the era I fall back in love with them (musically) ♥
THIS MV THOOOOOOO - Hwasa with blue extensions - Hwasa in pinstripes - Hwasa in a fedora - Hwasa - Byul on the swing - Byul puking vaping rainbows - Solar is so pretty and elegant - Wheein's bangs need to grow out asap but she is still my precious child - loved the mirror choreo (reminded me of Boa/Bohyung in the Secret Time MV) and I can't wait to see that part on stage - THEY ARE ALL ANGEL LINE!!!!!! - that Solar elevator scene was straight up rapey WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DO THAT?? imma need a version without the interlude and that scene thanks
(also if any SG MooMoos are reading this, my INTHELOVE Wheein Season's Greetings group order (https://twitter.com/rightclick5ave/status/791693088049639424) closes in 3 days!!)
((also also OP are you going to post their second MV? I cried watching it ;___;))
ok so that elevator scene didn't need to happen at all wtf it was such a nice aesthetic up until that part??? (also lose the fruit scenes idrc for that sort of symbolism)
Solar's was such a contrast to the others in that the consent wasn't presented in a good way. she struggled against him then gave up and that's not romantic :/
the song will grow on me but I find myself drawn more to those slower intro parts like in Hwasa's teaser.
YEAH i was so confused. In the other kiss scenes, the girls clearly expressed interest and kissed him themselves and he clearly wanted it when they kissed him. But then Solar's came and I was like 'wtf'
i didn't wanna admit this but they've been losing me with their recent comebacks :( um ah oh yeh was just okay and although i was super happy that they did so well with you're the best i didn't rly like the song. and now this disjointed mess...
I really like the song. They look so good. Moonbyul can date me and Hwasa can do whatever she wants with me because she is literally breathtaking in this. She has way too much sex appeal. That Sam Smith look alike can gtfo and I had to skip past that gross ass elevator scene. Talk about literally unnecessary. I can't wait to see this live though.
When I first saw Solar in that bandeau top and skirt I went "WooOooOoow" lol. That elevator kiss scene was super gross though. I don't get why they did that, when in all the other scenarios it was consensual??
I agree it was borderline. Since she'd been giving him some ~looks~ throughout the MV it seemed reasonable that she was interested in him. Of course, the problem is the word "reasonable" lol, it should be crystal clear for true consensuality.
i will never not love girls in suits. it's just...it's impossible. there will never come a time in my life where i will see girls dressed in suits and be like "whatever."
the elevator scene was soooooooooo gross. she clearly resisted him and pushed him away...ugh. nope. i saw a comment on yt saying ppl were getting mad for no reason and that rape culture doesn't exist like honestly...i have no words.
the white dude in the elevator looked so mediocre lmao like if sam smith tried to go into modeling.
what the fuck was up with Solar's kiss scene, with the close-up on their hands as she's squirming to get away from the dude and he's pinning her wrist to the wall, I mean WHY, why did they have to do it like that. the other kiss scenes were normal, sexy even, and it was just that one that ruined it for me. And it was in an elevator, of all places. That's like the classic setting for sexual harrassment/assault. Why why why, RBW?? I was so excited for this comeback. And it's not even going to be a controversy in Korea, is it? ugh
however i LOVE the song and moonbyul having so many lines and they look so goooddd
... i looked up what décalcomanie means and according to merriam-webster it's "the art or process of transferring pictures and designs from specially prepared paper (as to glass)" and it's from the french word for 'to trace' themoreyouknow.gif
Everyone and everything looks gorgeous here (Moonbyul is really killing it *___* ) and I Iike the song too BUT Solar's elevator scene ruined the mv... just wtf.
if someone can edit out the rape-y interlude and give me a link to the good parts, I'd be eternally grateful. I'd *really* love it if this could spark a debate in Korean media about the kind of message this sends ("if the girl struggles, just keep pin her up against the wall and don't stop, she'll give in eventually") but I'm trying to be realistic *sigh*
I really really like the song, the vocals are as always solid and the styling for each member looks great. I just wish the MV were different. What was the point of that white man, seriously. The forced kiss scene for Solar and the questionable kiss for Hwasa are aggravating. I'm fed up with that kind of shit.
This is disappointing after Ah Oop. That scene (and Hwa Sa's already made me cringe) turned me off this whole comeback. And they look so fantastic, too, but.. I'll try the live stages, but this is a big blow. :(
Why couldn't there have been more scenes of the girls looking gorgeous in their outfits instead of those gross kiss scenes? Like, I usually love these types of concepts, but *damn* was the styling spot-on in this one. And the song is good too. I liked Mamamoo before, but this comeback would've completely sold me on this group if not for the MV.
this is the first song of theirs that i've wanted to skip through on the first listen. i only rly like the chorus but ik theyre gonna kill this live. mv is absolutely ruined by solar's elevator scene.
I like the entire song except for the chorus. They looked GORGEOUS in the MV, wish they could've gone without that dude and the uncomfortable kiss scenes (esp the awful forced one in the elevator) Moonbyul slay also the imagery in the middle made me super uncomfortable, like others said it did seem rape-y or like loss of virginity but in a really disturbing way
omg Hwasa at 2:32 looking at that white man like "I could end your life right now" just took me DOWN.
This song is not what I expected though. Not at all. The video is... never mind, I just got to the interlude. Which I didn't mind until that awful elevator scene. Good lord that was gross. I almost wish Solar was the one who pulled him back in the elevator and initiated the encounter. You know? Have her take control of the moment and lead it. The narrative of the mysterious man who lets you lose your inhibitions or persists is kind of disgusting.
However the girls looks STUNNING. I think the fruit imagery is pretty, to be honest. I appreciate that Mamamoo doesn't seem to fear being in control of their sexuality, or at least alluding to the notion of it. Though that elevator scene took it to a very very VERY weird place.
mte about the transition to the chorus, that was kinda jarring. but after the background instrumentals kicked in in the chorus, it started sounding like a cohesive song..
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Date: 2016-11-06 03:09 pm (UTC)I need a break
Bye
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Date: 2016-11-06 03:20 pm (UTC)I was just gonna comment the same
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Date: 2016-11-06 03:40 pm (UTC)other wise they all looked great and sounded amazing. loved the aesthetics and cinematography. i just wish they found a less sleazy looking guy and just didn't have that scene at all.
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Date: 2016-11-06 03:44 pm (UTC)ALSO GIVE THEIR STYLISTS A RAISE. IT'S RARE TO HAVE AN ERA WHERE EVERY SINGLE GROUP MEMBER LOOKS STUNNING.
MOON BYUL NEEDS TO DATE ME PLS
This could've done without the dude but I'll take it.
The song is great too and it's a bit more of their throwback sound than their last few releases
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Date: 2016-11-06 03:56 pm (UTC)Also NO at the subtext of this mv culminating in that elevator shit
Edited to add: I feel like the whole mv was going with the mythos of the aggressive guy so the elevator scene was in line with the rest of the mv instead of one out of place scene.
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Date: 2016-11-06 04:02 pm (UTC)THIS MV THOOOOOOO
- Hwasa with blue extensions
- Hwasa in pinstripes
- Hwasa in a fedora
- Hwasa
- Byul on the swing
- Byul
pukingvaping rainbows- Solar is so pretty and elegant
- Wheein's bangs need to grow out asap but she is still my precious child
- loved the mirror choreo (reminded me of Boa/Bohyung in the Secret Time MV) and I can't wait to see that part on stage
- THEY ARE ALL ANGEL LINE!!!!!!
- that Solar elevator scene was straight up rapey WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DO THAT?? imma need a version without the interlude and that scene thanks
(also if any SG MooMoos are reading this, my INTHELOVE Wheein Season's Greetings group order (https://twitter.com/rightclick5ave/status/791693088049639424) closes in 3 days!!)
((also also OP are you going to post their second MV? I cried watching it ;___;))
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Date: 2016-11-06 04:03 pm (UTC)they all look fab i'm hurt
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Date: 2016-11-06 04:17 pm (UTC)the song will grow on me but I find myself drawn more to those slower intro parts like in Hwasa's teaser.
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Date: 2016-11-07 02:28 am (UTC)MTE!!!!
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Date: 2016-11-06 06:07 pm (UTC)and this video...
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Date: 2016-11-06 07:46 pm (UTC)I hate the elevator kiss scene
Love the song though and everything else was amazing
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Date: 2016-11-06 09:45 pm (UTC)I like the song and they looked gorgeous
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Date: 2016-11-06 09:45 pm (UTC)however i LOVE the song and moonbyul having so many lines and they look so goooddd
... i looked up what décalcomanie means and according to merriam-webster it's "the art or process of transferring pictures and designs from specially prepared paper (as to glass)" and it's from the french word for 'to trace' themoreyouknow.gif
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Date: 2016-11-07 02:11 am (UTC)mv is absolutely ruined by solar's elevator scene.
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Date: 2016-11-07 02:26 am (UTC)They looked GORGEOUS in the MV, wish they could've gone without that dude and the uncomfortable kiss scenes (esp the awful forced one in the elevator)
Moonbyul slay
also the imagery in the middle made me super uncomfortable, like others said it did seem rape-y or like loss of virginity but in a really disturbing way
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Date: 2016-11-07 02:35 am (UTC)This song is not what I expected though. Not at all. The video is... never mind, I just got to the interlude. Which I didn't mind until that awful elevator scene. Good lord that was gross. I almost wish Solar was the one who pulled him back in the elevator and initiated the encounter. You know? Have her take control of the moment and lead it. The narrative of the mysterious man who lets you lose your inhibitions or persists is kind of disgusting.
However the girls looks STUNNING. I think the fruit imagery is pretty, to be honest. I appreciate that Mamamoo doesn't seem to fear being in control of their sexuality, or at least alluding to the notion of it. Though that elevator scene took it to a very very VERY weird place.
And was this the best guy they could find? Yuck.
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Date: 2016-11-07 07:58 am (UTC)The guy is so blah. That kissing scene is unnecessary. And that slow song in the middle is what even. Overall the execution is just no in this one
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Date: 2016-11-07 09:13 am (UTC)Official MAMAMOO channel (https://youtu.be/u8ukVmSf2ik)
Still has the rest of the wrist-grabbiness, but removing the Solar scene is an improvement.
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