W - Two Worlds Ep 12-13 Discussion Post

[keytfelt.livejournal.com]

Synopsis:
Oh Yeon Joo is a surgeon whose father is a famous comic book creator. One day, her father goes missing and she rushes to his workshop to look for him, and instead finds a strange man, Kang Chul bathed in blood. She is kidnapped by him and taken to a different dimension.

Cast: Lee Jong-Suk, Han Hyo-Joo, Jung Yoo-Jin, Lee Tae-Hwan, Lee Si-Eon, Kang Ki-Young
Director: Jung Dae-Yoon
Writer: Song Jae-Jung
Network: MBC
Episodes: 16
Release Date: July 20 - September 8, 2016
Runtime: Wednesdays & Thursdays 22:00

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sources: MyDramaList, AsianWiki

Comments

[miyozari.livejournal.com]

Is W a fictional world, a parallel universe, a combination of both? Were the laws of physics defied b/c of Oh Seung Moo's writing? I hope there will be a proper explanation in the final episode and not some bs like in God's Gift.

According to the preview Oh Yeon Joo dies, but there should be hopefully another plot twist and she survives (maybe another retcon b/c she's now a part of W).

I like the "new" Kang Chul more than the old one, but tbh I miss the suits and his friends. I'm not sure whether it's cruel or merciful to leave them like this in W.

[lechuza-yoya.livejournal.com]

I agreed!! I dont know whas going on!!

[jinkiestabi.livejournal.com]

Episode 12 was truly a whirlwind, I looked up and before I could notice, it was over. I was so confused, but they did address why some of the rules didn't apply to every character or rather, how the variables work. The idea that both worlds are independent of each other, that's intriguing. And this is just off how there was no way Papa Oh could have created all of those characters and he only had a hand in creating a few. I probably missed it, but then how are they able to connect through the tablet? It has something to do with that spell (?) I'm assuming, but what makes the spell so significant in connecting with another world?

I like this KC that's in control of how he gets to and from the world. I don't think I've grasped how he's able to do that just yet. Now YJ can get her life together and stop acting like it's the end of her life because there's no KC, lol. They were able to fix the story and drive it in a different direction without making KC lose his memory of everything.

Ep 13, this dinner where KC is basically like "Waddup future Papa-In-Law, sorry I capped yo' ass that time, let's eat!" Lmao. Papa Oh's face during that scene was priceless. YJ's professor is such a mess, leave the woman alone, lol. "I don't know any Yeon Joo that is decent." Lmao damn. And KC is just there taking the piss out of the man. Love it.

This show has the best transitions. The first being YJ's submersion into Han River from the bathroom and the follow up being KC driving from "reality" to "W" and back to "reality" was so damn cool. It's as simple as a transition can be, but I thought it was awesome. Well, I guess I should say it was Sohee who experienced the transition. Poor Doyoon though, he is not mentally prepared to deal with all of this foolishness, lol.

The change of the scene and the change of Papa Oh's character. Brilliant. Obviously, it wasn't going to be easy for KC to simply live in the real world as a main protagonist in a different world. Something as a simple thought could bring anyone from W to reality, and that would be a shitty way to live. Now that the killer is seemingly dead.....I wonder what will happen now.

Is anyone still reading this manhwa??

[imangos.livejournal.com]

...Because if they are, with the way the story's gone timey wimey wibbly wobbly, that's loyalty. No lie. I understand Prof. Crazy Dog's POV; I'd be pissed af if a random showed up to derail my OTP lmao.

Episode 13 cemented an idea that I'd been bouncing around for a while. The "manhwa" world isn't a manhwa but in fact its own actual, real world. The manhwa is just a window into this other world. Sort of like ABC's "Once Upon a Time" where the storybook was a window into the fairy tale world but the fairy tale characters are all real, living breathing people with pasts and futures. Kang Chul is no more a "cartoon character" than Yeon Joo is. Perhaps, YJ didn't so much create KC as she "saw" him, perhaps in a dream because she's naturally attuned to his world the way her father is?

With that in mind, KC and YJ teaming up to rewrite the story is no more effective than you or I "writing" our own life stories. The world/universe has its own plans and will always create variables/obstacles to enact its plans. So YJ's la-di-da fantasy of KC becoming a part of her life so seamlessly seems rather childish to me. This, honestly, is what I dislike about the way she's being written. It seems like after KC became aware, YJ lost her self-awareness and has been relegated to pining female lead who only cares about the dream husband, house with picket fence and 1.5 kids. I'm saying I want her to obsess over KC's world (and the state its in with the villain in the front seat) but a little more concern for KC's friends (Soo Hee, Do Yoon) would be nice considering how easily they could end up with holes in their heads.

On the bright side, Lee Jong Seok was in top form during the scene with Crazy Dog. He's so good at playing the coy, cheeky rascal; his winks and subtle smiles always get me in the feels. As usual, Su Bong slays. I really do hope my mans get its money back from KC though lol.

Re: Is anyone still reading this manhwa??

[winegums.livejournal.com]

tbqh I totally understand poor Crazy Dog pov as a fan, because that's p much the way fandoms irl react when shit goes wonky in a story/we sense showrunners trying to force love lines on us etc.

I realised I don't actually care much about the OTP at all, and part of that is bc of the way their characters are written. Kang Chul is literally a construct and Yeon Joo dgaf about anything but him and her dad. I like LJS/HHJ in the more comedic moments and they look great together but their chemistry isn't the kind that has me rooting for them to tear down all the walls of a fictional universe so they can be together. Like I'm in this more to see what insane shit will happen next and be scared out of my mind like Soobong (give the poor guy his money back pls!) than to root for the couple.

I'm really glad LJS took this role tho. It's a change from his previous sensitive-boy dramas and it'll be nice to have a recent example to point out when people start on their 'he always plays the same roles!' trip. I'm really looking forward to his turn as a villain too.

Re: Is anyone still reading this manhwa??

[tsuyoi-hikari.livejournal.com]

I thought the storyline gets more interesting after Yeon Joo got into the manhwa. Before this is basically crappy writing by the father about Kang Cheol trying to catch the killer without revealing any details of the killer for 7 years long. After Yeon Joo is in, it got crazily exciting. Kang Cheol is actually a manhwa character (great plot twist to loyal reader!!) > He's out of the manhwa world > shot the crappy writer > fall in love with the daughter > make a good ending for himself (commit suicide) > Yeon Joo save him again > Come to term with his existence > The killer ran amok for his lack of identity > Yeon Joo made Kang Cheol lose memory to correct everything > The killer still remembers and ran amok again > Killer gets an identity after 7 years & kill everyone > Kang Cheol was framed > and the list goes on.

I wont read the manhwa before but I will truly check out the roller coaster plot since its insane and very creative. :)) Not to mention in the manhwa, Kang Cheol shot the father and in real world, there's news on the TV of the father being shot -- what a coincidence lol. I will be super invested with the storyline by then.

Re: Is anyone still reading this manhwa??

[kary1591.livejournal.com]

"The "manhwa" world isn't a manhwa but in fact its own actual, real world. The manhwa is just a window into this other world."

That's def what they were going for but if that's the case why do they start fading away once their plotline stops serving a purpose? They wouldn't just disappear like that if it were an actual world.

Re: Is anyone still reading this manhwa??

[modestgoddess79.livejournal.com]

The characters created for the comic are not originally part of the alternate world. The world existed before Dad inserted his characters into it. Their identity is tied to the comic but the rest of the world is independent.

Re: Is anyone still reading this manhwa??

[kary1591.livejournal.com]

Ohhh I thought they were going for something like in a Supernatural ep where the characters themselves weren't even really created but the creator was a prophet. So I thought here they were gonna have the creator see "glimpses" of the other world and then draw them but they weren't actually a creation of his even though he thought they were.

Re: Is anyone still reading this manhwa??

[imangos.livejournal.com]

I think the "fading" is just a sign that they're disappearing from the manhwa and not that they're disappearing from their world. Perhaps Soo Hee continues to exist in Kang Chul's world even if she were to fade, but she doesn't exist as Kang Chul's Soo Hee but her own person independent of him and his story.

[jaelissi.livejournal.com]

LOL yay for.. rules.. I guess..? Kang Chul said it, so it must be so. Oh, it is so? Okay then...

[winegums.livejournal.com]

This drama is insane.

Also Soobong is all of us, I love both his utter terror and his bouts of fanboying. Someone give that poor guy a raise and a holiday so he can go somewhere nice after this. Preferably somewhere in this world and not a manhwa lol.

[tsuyoi-hikari.livejournal.com]

I love this drama -- probably because I just enjoy it as it is without projecting my thoughts and expectations on the plots. I find people on the net taking it too seriously which tbh kind of defeat the purpose of the drama. Just when you thought there's a plot hole in it, they explained 2/3 epsiodes later and all your questions are answered. Everyone was wondering why the hell only Kang Cheol forgets eveything but the killer didnt -- it turned out he killer already know way way before than him about the W world.

I love the fact that this drama keeps surprising me with the storyline. Usually you can predict basically everything in kdramas but not this one (at least not all of it). I love the fact that Kang Cheol shot Yeon Joo, he also shot the father, the killer shot Yeon Joo and the list goes on. You cant find this kind of thing in other kdramas which made me really enjoy it a looooot.

[evilcoc0nut.livejournal.com]

[amandaplan.livejournal.com]

i only watched ep 12 because the teaser for the next ep. looks sus and i don't want to have to wait a week to find out what happens next.

w has been okay so far but these last few eps i've been loving.

if i had to guess what is happening even though i have no idea, i would say maybe the main girl is a manhwa character and suddenly her fictional character had a genre change from like slice to life to action/fiction where she winds up getting inside her favorite manhwa. maybe the author of the girl's story made that weird villain so that's why no one from W or YJ's world can control it since neither created it. idk though because some of these "variables" are hard to follow.