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After posting her half-assed apology regarding the Rising Sun Controversy, Tiffany has posted another better written apology to her instagram account.



안녕하세요 티파니입니다.

너무나 큰 잘못을 한 것에 더해 부족한 사과문으로 여러분들께 이미 많은 상처와 실망감을 드린 이후 열흘이 지나도록 진정한 사과에 대한 용기를 내지 못했습니다. 두렵고 떨리는 마음으로 이 뒤늦음에 대한 용서를 먼저 구합니다. 그리고 진작 말씀드렸어야 했을 이야기를, 그 날의 큰 잘못에 대한 진심어린 사과를 최선을 다해 전해보고자 합니다.

저는 광복절에 욱일기 디자인이 들어간 문구를 SNS에 올리는 잘못을 했습니다. 광복절의 의미를 생각할 때 결코 해서는 안 될 잘못을 범했습니다.

많은 분들께서 충고해주신 것처럼, 욱일기에 대해 몰랐을 만큼 역사의식이 부족했고 아픔이 있었던 과거에 대해 민감하지 못했습니다. 저의 무지함과 무심함으로 인해 마음이 상하셨을 모든 분들께 정말 죄송합니다. 저를 믿고 응원해주셨던 많은 분들에게 머리 숙여 사과드립니다.

지금까지 저는 너무 감사하게 변함없이 응원해주시고 사랑해주신 여러분 덕분에 음악을 할 수 있었습니다. 하지만 이렇게 오랫동안 여러분께 많은 사랑을 받았음에도 불구하고, 저는 한국의 기본적인 역사에 대해 잘 알고 있지 못했습니다. 자세히 공부 하지 않았던 제 자신이 너무나도 부끄럽습니다.

늘 가수로서 한국의 문화를 알리는 사람이 될 수 있음에 감사하며 자부심을 느껴왔지만, 그만큼 더 책임감을 갖고 공부해야 한다는 것을 다시 한번 깨달았습니다. 대중앞에 나서는 사람으로서 그 책임감을 잊지 않겠습니다.

제가 저지른 잘못으로 인해 의미있는 광복절에 심려를 끼쳐드려, 모든 분들께 다시 한번 죄송한 마음을 전하고 싶습니다. 저의 잘못이란 것을 알게 된 뒤 공항에서 너무 급하게 쓰게된 첫 글이 신중하지 못했고 너무나 부족했던 것 또한 다시 한번 사과드립니다. 진심어린 사과의 마음을 전할 기회를 놓친 것을 계속 후회하며 죄송한 마음으로 하루하루를 보냈습니다. 너무 늦었지만 제 진심이 전달되길 간절히 바랍니다.

이번 일이 저에게는 가장 중요한 것이 무엇인지를 알려준 것 같습니다. 이 시간부터 노래와 춤보다 더 중요한 것들을 더더욱 열심히 공부하고 배우도록 노력하겠습니다.

긴 글, 뒤늦은 글 읽어주셔서 정말 감사합니다.




Hello this is Tiffany.

After making such a big mistake, and hurting and disappointing you by writing an insufficient apology, I couldn’t have the courage to give a real apology. I would first like to ask for forgiveness of being late. I will try my best to give the apology that I failed to give before, about the grave mistake I made that day.

On Korea’s Liberation Day, I wrongly posted the Japanese flag on my SNS. When you think about the meaning of Liberation Day, I made a mistake that should not be done.

Like everyone said, I lacked the historical knowledge and wasn’t sensitive enough about the rising sun flag. Because of my lack of knowledge and insensitivity, I would like to apologize for everyone who got hurt. For many who believed in me and supported me, I would like to apoligize even more deeply.

Until now, I was able to make music because of everyone who supported me without fail. Even though I got loved for this long, I did not know the most basic Korean history. I am ashamed of myself for not studying more.

I always felt pride to spread Korean culture, and I learned now that I need to be more responsible, and study harder. For a person who is in the eyes of the public, I will never forget that responsibility.

I would like to apologize again for causing distress with my mistake in such a meaningful way. After realizing my mistake and writing hastily in the airport, I realize now the first apology wasn’t enough, and apologize again. I spent everyday regretting that I missed the opportunity to deliver a true apology. It is too late, but I hope it reaches to you.

This made me realize what is the most important to me. From now on, I will study harder the things that are more important than singing and dancing.

Thank you for reading a long, and late writing.





from: naver

1. [+7498, -301]

To not know something can become a crime nowadays. I hope she can study history a bit harder from now

2. [+6912, -312]
I think that she asked someone's help to write the post seeing its content. She could at least write her post by hand, but instead she typed it, I wonder what were her intentions
> But she wrote it with a pen on IG

3. [+5347, -205]
Each country has their own sensitive issues. There's a saying that says "When in Rome, do as Romans do." SM should really give them history lessons

4. [+4913, -208]
Please I really hope you're reflecting over this. It's common courtesy to at least know a country's etiquette if you're going to come here and work

5. [+2929, -158]
The comfort women are still battling for their rights right now

6. [+1108, -68]
I wonder who's the dog who created the emoticon

7. [+1048, -69]
Whether you want it or not, if you go overseas people will think of you as Korean, so please behave accordingly

8. [+1119, -106]
I hope you will take this opportunity to reflect and not forget  about this issue even when it'll be over. This could've become even a bigger issue, please be careful with your actions next time

9. [+1035, -87]
I think that it's good of her to re-write her apology. This is a big issue, so please reflect

10. [+924, -67]
Th company is also at fault, they send them for a Japanese concert on the day of the National liberation day.. sigh



She has also unfollowed a lot of people on Instagram. She used to follow 721 people, after posting the second written apology, she's now only following 15 people (7 other membrs, brother, sister-in-law, some friends)






She has also deleted her snapchat username from her instagram bio.

Sources: Tiffany's IG + The Sone Source + Naver + Pannchoa

Date: 2016-08-26 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikapika217.livejournal.com
I'm not sure how much that will help her career but I do think this was a much, much better apology at least since it was all about taking ownership for her mistakes and acknowledgement of what it was she did wrong.

Date: 2016-08-26 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gathyou.livejournal.com
I feel this is the kind of apology she should have written in the first place, better late than never, I guess. She's acknowleding her shortcomings and responsability in better terms. The next step is staying quiet for a while, I guess there won't be much from her this year.

Date: 2016-08-26 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cettefemme90.livejournal.com
It's better. Seems to be indicative of reflection, though I'm guessing she probably wrote it in a very careful fashion with people from SM and had it carefully vetted before posting it. I hope that she understands the gravity of the situation and why people were so upset and outraged, but I also hope she's ok.

I can't remember who I'm thinking of at all, but I remember some disgraced person did a documentary on something to do with their mistakes after making a mistake (that's horribly vague, lol), maybe she could do a very somber doc on Korean history and talk to older people who still remember Japanese rule and its after effects, like some kind of learning experience. Idk, it probably wouldn't come across well though.

I hope she does read some history books either way.

Date: 2016-08-26 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misoras.livejournal.com
I love Tiffany and hope this incident* humbled her and given her the opportunity to mature. Education is always good and i'm sure she's genuinely remorseful. Positive vibes and shit always.

NHF some fans disparging SK and making false claims of the population supporting men that commit acts of violence and/or sexual assault. That's a bold ass lie.

*Which isn't to say that I think she's innocent and that people aren't rightfully angry.

Date: 2016-08-26 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraflyy23.livejournal.com
This is a much better apology.

Date: 2016-08-26 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soyunatetera.livejournal.com
It's a much better apology, it's a shame the she wasn't able to write this first, but I guess the backlash made her rethink things which makes me question myself if there's was an over reaction or not from the public, like if they weren't so harsh would she really make a second apology like this that's more concious.... but of course that goes in the "what if" that we'll never know.
The comment about comfort women made me think if there's been any reaction online (that's not twitter I'm thinking in Korean portal sites) about the new agreement between the korean and japanese government about comfort women... sometimes I feel they're used as a political tool by oficcial levels and a hate tool at a public level, it's been a long time and still there hasn't been a proper compensation, and I can't help to make paralels about issues that has happened in my country about human rights abuse. I have deep thoughts about this issue but since I'm not korean not live all the process about how the issue has been treated really what would I know.

Date: 2016-08-26 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] premonitioner.livejournal.com
Majority of the Korean public hate the agreement and have protested it since it was announced. there's a 24 hour vigil of the comfort girl statue outside the Japanese embassy because Japan wants it taken down before any money changes hands.

The comfort women were shunned by the Korean public until the 90s, because they viewed them as a) a shameful reminder of their past and b) defiled and unpure. When Korea came out of their dictatorship, human rights and women's rights started to become a thing. Then the comfort women supporters began to play on Korean nationalism and turned them into innocent pure girls, ripped from their homes (which was true for some, but a lot willingly left Korea because their lives were so terrible there. they thought they were going to better jobs and places) and Korea forgot their own crimes against both victims of the Japanese comfort women system and the Korean comfort women system (who serve the US military bases).

The Korean government didn’t give a shit about the comfort women until the Korean constitutional court ruled in 2011 that the government should be doing something about seeking reparations for the comfort women and they got to use them as yet another point of contention in their history with Japan and then in 2015 the US pushed for this to be resolved. there's a reason why the agreement was announced on the last working day of 2015 - it was the 50 year anniversary of the normalisation treaty between the two countries, which funnily enough, was a treaty where Japan paid money to Korea for victims of Japanese imperialism and hardly any of those victims saw that money thanks to Park GeunHye's dictator of a father.

edit: sorry for the essay. I wrote my dissertation on Korean treatment of the victims of Japanese sexual slavery and all of the information is still relatively fresh. plus I get super fucking mad about the December agreement.
Edited Date: 2016-08-26 03:02 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2016-08-26 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kashiyaek.livejournal.com
what she did is still a big deal and a lot of people have been hurt, upset and offended by it and they deserved a way better apology than they've gotten. this is the apology it should've been in the first place so i'm glad she came out with it, better late than never i suppose? honestly this is all she can do for now and educating/humbling herself is a good thing so i hope she takes her time with it and lays low while doing so.

i'm not korean/my ancestors haven't been a victim of japan's imperialism so i'm not sure if it's my place to forgive her or whatnot. regardless, i'm sure many people will see this as too late but at least she did it.
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Date: 2016-08-26 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abcd123.livejournal.com
I forgot where I read it - but there was a comment saying the first apology was probably written to ensure she could at least enter the airport safely. It's good she wrote a second one.

Also - semi OT - but the translation difference between pannchoa and nb is interesting.

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Date: 2016-08-26 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] premonitioner.livejournal.com
this is better and much more comprehensive. even if she did get help, I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long as she understands what she wrote and why she wrote it.

Date: 2016-08-26 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmicjam.livejournal.com
Something about her apology kinda rubs me the wrong way, idk why, but either way it's not my place whether to accept it or not.

Also sorry dumb question but do any of you guys know if in her apology it's accurately translated to ' the Japanese flag' cuz the rising sun flag is no longer considered Japan's flag

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Date: 2016-08-26 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myra9.livejournal.com
"… about the Japanese flag." This is a mistranslation. She mentioned the rising sun flag here.

Good to see that knetz are less hatefull now.

Date: 2016-08-26 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelrainna.livejournal.com
eh. i'll take it i guess. better than that first shitty apology, that's for sure. but way overdue. wish sme would apologize for doing a japanese concert too, and snapchat with that filter. tiff is on my shitlist but so are these other two and they're getting no flak for it :/

Date: 2016-08-26 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nana-the-dwarf.livejournal.com
Snapchat was invaded with request to take fown the filter after Tiffany's incident. So they did, it's no longer part of their filter menu.

I don't think SM will say anything though.

Date: 2016-08-26 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jileader.livejournal.com
Well this is a way better, more thoughtful and humble apology
Hopefully this and some down time will be enough to maintain her image

Date: 2016-08-26 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kamoteatmani.livejournal.com
I'm curious if there are negative comments about this apology. I think this seemed sincere and I do remember everyone shitting on her for her non-apology before.

Maybe it's how it was translated? Content-wise I do feel like it was from the heart and she really does regret what happened. That said I wish she'd acknowledge her other controversy from before, aka her colorist post because if her concern was hurting her fans (and non-fans) then shouldn't she also address that there were also some people who got hurt from that issue?

But I guess she can take a break from the heat for a while. Girl has been through a lot lately, esp I'm sure she'd have heard and/or read about the gross comments about her mom ever since this started. Poor girl :(

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Date: 2016-08-26 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kenziekinz09.livejournal.com
This is definitely a better apology. I honestly have a hard time believing she didn't know any better though, especially after living in Korea for 10+ years.

Date: 2016-08-26 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamamoos.livejournal.com
is she saying she straight-up didn't know the significance of the rising sun flag? maybe that was made up but it was the impression i got. i wonder if this is where we see the consequences of idols leaving school and being isolated from the world (much less/no internet and phone access) at a young age. i've learnt so much more about sensitive issues like this online than from my schooling, it's helped me develop so much as a person. idols who had those tools taken away from them at an age where they might've been curious about a lot of these things do generally seem more immature in the most literal sense, like some part of their development was frozen at 16. who knows though.

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Date: 2016-08-26 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovealwaysliana.livejournal.com
CAN I GO TO HAWAII NOW DAD?!

Date: 2016-08-26 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misoras.livejournal.com
Get a grip. That's the least of her concerns.

Date: 2016-08-26 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelyxbeauty.livejournal.com
Well, this is a much better apology. I'm hoping it took her this long to write this apology because she was actually reflecting on why people were angry and educating herself in order to make a sincere apology.

Date: 2016-08-26 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leopolitan.livejournal.com
omg tiffanys not following bora anymore...true love is dead

Date: 2016-08-26 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] words-by-ash.livejournal.com
Hopefully this will stop the worst of the vitriol pointed at her.

Date: 2016-08-26 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibiyunie.livejournal.com
Didn't she do enough at this point for people to move on? I was probably the first in line to chuckle over some Tiffany drama but the witch hunting should be done by now.

I get the sensitivity of the subject and it is no surprise to me that she is ignorant in basic history facts but she apologized - twice - and seems to show sincere remorse if you ask me, all she can do now is be a better person who thinks twice before doing something.

Date: 2016-08-27 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikapika217.livejournal.com
I don't like how people went WAY too far with threats against her person and her deceased mother but the animosity over this is very obviously important because of how the tensions still seem to be high. I can't blame the public for not wanting to support someone who has lived in korea this long and doesn't understand these issues even a little bit. If her career recovers it will be after, at the very least, more reflection.

Date: 2016-08-26 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisaorange.livejournal.com
I'm glad that she wrote another apology, at least her conscience can be clear. The whole world is not going to get over it that quickly (some people will never) but with two apologies she stands a better chance of resuming her celebrity activities after a period of time. She'll be fine and SNSD will be fine. But damn, talk about shooting yourself directly in the foot with this scandal, still don't know how she managed and how she had no idea about the rising sun flag.

Even so, posting about Japan twice on Korean liberation day after your fans warned you... I'm sorry, how...?

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Date: 2016-08-27 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chastainy.livejournal.com
why did it take her/SM so long to release this apology, like there was instant backlash regarding the first apology. She shoulda issued a new one the day after or something

Date: 2016-08-27 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msgrottesca.livejournal.com
This is a much better apology but I'm still so ??? at someone of Korean descent who has worked exclusively in Korea for 10+ years not knowing this history when I, a random broke bitch in Georgia already learned about this long ago? I'm just kind of amazed.

Date: 2016-08-27 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazmy.livejournal.com

took her long enough
and I'm not buying that she didn't know...like how could she NOT
either she's just that stupid or she expects her fans to be

Date: 2016-08-29 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miracle-candle.livejournal.com
its extremely ignorant to assume everyone knows about the rising sun flag.

unlike you (i assume you are from the us), i actually from one of the countries that was invaded by the japanese army during the wwii. my grandmother lived that era and we have been thought about that part of the history during our high school years. however, i only know about the rising sun flag last year from the internet. that is because i'm active in korean/japanese international forum. i bet my other friends/family do not know about the rising sun flag too. is it mean that we are stupid? no. it means that we are not being exposed to that fact. to assume everyone know about the flag is just unfair. we know the japanese were cruel and all at that time, but we do not know that it is extremely sensitive the flag was to many people. it wasn't being thought at school if you must know.

its weird to assume that she knows about the flag and still chose to use it (despite knowing it will offend people). normal people wont do that esp someone like tiffany who seemed to care what other people think of her.

just for a record, i'm not her fan. i'm just annoyed when people think everyone knows about something that is supposed to be known. some things are just not being thought at school.

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