Hoya on 'My Father'

[kary1591.livejournal.com]

Source: InfiniteUpdates


Idek.
It was nice seeing them bond I guess but after Hoya mentioned his dad beat him with a baseball bat I couldn't really enjoy it.

At least Hoya cracked me up.

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[torontok.livejournal.com]

Jesus Christ.
I can't stand his father. The fact that he continued to be so petty and hold a grudge against Hoya for disobeying him and becoming a celebrity is immature as fuck, especially since he has no qualms about accepting financial help from his son.

Hoya was abused. Period. I can't at people trying to dismiss what his father did as "Asian parenting." The way he described his dad getting angry for no reason, having to tiptoe around him for fear of his moods, that's not a healthy dynamic at all.

[kary1591.livejournal.com]

Mfte. I was surprised seeing most people react like this was so heartwarming. His dad can't even give Hoya a measly "Thank You", idk if the show wanted me to find that cute but alas.. and one of the few people I saw in the youtube comments mentioning his dad being abusive had someone countering it :/

[saemcrh.livejournal.com]

I've never looked into Infinite too much (so I'm not familiar with individual members etc) but watching this broke my heart. Their relationship seems so cold and business-like, not one of a parent and child (at least in my mind).

His father seems to want to push forth the point that he's disappointed in Hoya choosing his career path, while still taking the benefits that come from it. Hoya really seems to want a real relationship, but is afraid to even push that too much.

He was clearly abused as a child, and in a way that's continued into his adulthood; not to mention how it's clearly affected him emotionally. His father is a monster, he isn't deserving of a son who obviously cares and just wants some affection; something a child shouldn't have to ask for. He was raised in fear.

This really upset me.

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

what's the song when his dad driving hoya's brother in the car? i don't remember there's an infinite song like that

i think he's always open that his relationship with his dad is never good. and i think he mentioned beating/fighting before, but i didn't know that it's with a baseball bat. god that's awful. i also don't have good relationship w/my dad and i don't like his personality generally, so i can relate.

I feel like most infinite members really have interesting/touching/sad story predebut that it'd be better if they didn't have to go through that but it makes them more precious to me.

[kary1591.livejournal.com]

I'd never heard it either. It looked like his dad was inserting the Paradise repackage album so I doubt it's new. Maybe a hidden track? Or maybe he got a special album with unreleased songs? No clue =(

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

exactly! i checked paradise. that song is not in there. and that repackaged hidden track is a convo between the boys. hope they'll release the song later.

[kary1591.livejournal.com]

Ooooohhh. Wow I feel dumb now lol. Ty!! <3

[kary1591.livejournal.com]

Truly a life saver.



It was killing me to not recognize it lol and that's actually my fave INFINITE H album. Smh.

[bloodtaki2.livejournal.com]

I haven't watched the episode yet but,,,

I can't at the both of you thinking it's an unreleased track, OMG.

[kary1591.livejournal.com]

A shame I shall learn to live with.

[bloodtaki2.livejournal.com]

you guys made my day.

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

lmao. i open this thread again bc i want to tell OP that it's Infinite H's song (apparently) hahahaah idky i didn't like that H's album and didn't pay much attention to it lol shame on us.

[anewtrilogy.livejournal.com]

Everything about it breaks my heart i wish i could talk to Hoya and convice him to stay away from this terrible man, people like him never change and he's just going to hurt Hoya sooner or later again.... :(( I love Hoya so much i really want him to be happy and stay away from this monster

[shintotchi.livejournal.com]

I recall Hoya mentioning that he and his father had a bad relationship, but I didn't know it was that abusive. The fact that they saw no problem mentioning he was hit with a bat, and that he considered kicking Hoya off the family registry shows how dysfuctional they are.

Even so, I understand why Hoya wants a relationship with his father on some level. It's not like the man can physically do anything to him any more, since Hoya is independent now and paying some of the bills. His dad could be verbally abusive, but that damage has already been done. Already Hoya talks so harshly to his brother, and I'm sure, the people around him. It's engrained in him, and I'm sad that it became that way.

I didn't think this story was cute at all, but it was interesting to see their dynamic. I think it's good for Hoya to have some sort of closure with his dad while he's alive, so that he can work toward healing himself in the future. Hoya's dad probably won't ever change. Hoya's dad even had a friend who not only enabled, but probably instigated his abusive ways without seeing anything wrong with it. I'm curious about what kind of household he came from. Also had a slight flag that his older brother(?) was talking about a wedding date before actually proposing. Hoya was right about that.

Anyway, thank you for posting OP.

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

about the proposing, i heard korean do the proposing just to have an event and not the actual moment of proposing (like hyori's husband did for her iirc). and i thought h'd talked about he giving his brother wedding presents years ago so idk which brother he's talking about here... a cousin probably lol.

[kary1591.livejournal.com]

It's def a brother. Idk how many brothers he has lol but about 2 weeks ago there were videos going around twitter of Hoya singing at his brother's wedding.

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

he only has 1 older brother and one younger bro. hmm ok, he might be just joking that one time he talked about his hyung getting married then.

[shintotchi.livejournal.com]

Maybe he meant hyung as in older male friend? Translations could be mixed up like that.

[pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com]

OP said he was seen in his older brother's wedding around this week. so maybe it's his actual brother and he was just joking before in that show i watched

[caipirinhas.livejournal.com]

oh my god at that spoiler text... =(

[daikokudanji.livejournal.com]

I wished his father never spoken to him again after kicking him out, Hoya doesn't deserve to keep going through this all his life, someone send the bastard to hell already.

[angela-derp-otp.livejournal.com]

Is this supposed to be heart warming? So many things they said were kind of horrible?, I feel like crying. The fact that they are making a show about this and talk about abuse as if that's nothing it breaks my heart.


I come from a Mexican/Irish family and God knows how often physical punishments were used and some still are in those cultures. My parents weren't really strong on that kind of parenting, but mom like every good Mexican had her best friend "La Chancla" and she still use it sometimes even though we are grown ups lol, but Hoya was hit by a baseball bat, that is abuse period.

There is something really unsettling in their relationship... IDK maybe I am reading too much/not enough because I don't follow Infinite. What are the fans' thoughts in this show? I am really curious.

[kary1591.livejournal.com]

There is something really unsettling in their relationship

Before I watched this, I knew their relationship was strained but my mind didn't want to go to actual abuse.

Hoya had mentioned not speaking to his father for 8 years & there was also an instance on Immortal Song 2 when someone sang a song dedicated to their father and Hoya broke down.



But I used to think it was mostly just them being estranged. Then again it's not like he'd go into detail when he spoke about this.

I remember one of the first Hoya quotes I ever read when I got into INFINITE (and boy has it stuck with me) was him saying he raised himself on inferiority complex, revengeful thoughts, and anger. Like the fact that he says he had to raise himself and that those thoughts were what he fed off from really stuck a chord. And after this that quote took a new meaning for me.

It's just upsetting, especially when I see him compare himself to his dad here. Hoya's snarky and closed off but he isn't cruel.









Anyway idek what I'm saying anymore.. I'm just rambling. And majority of my post is probs projection but long story short, as a fan, the show left me feeling a bit odd and angry.











P.S. Sorry for all my edits flooding your inbox