SEVENTEEN Fansites Did More Than Just Take Pictures When They Weren't Supposed To....

[blackholexx.livejournal.com]

You know the tragedy that was Seventeen's Sketchbook and KBS stage? Yeah, there's more to that...

Honestly, I was a fansite's master..

I really like Seventeen so much so I decided to buy a camera and followed them around.

Since I'm a timid person, I used to only take pictures during the ending of their concerts, or when they arrive on a building or when they're on their way home.. Basically, I used to only take pictures on places that allows fans to take pictures. I had a site and also a twitter account for it..

Honestly, the reason why I closed my fansite down and stopped being a fansite's master is because all of the current masters these days..

It's because I was really afraid I'm going to turn into one of them.. But I was more afraid that I might be a harm to the boys.. I really want to ask those masters if they're really Seventeen's fans.. When I go to a fansign, I don't bring my camera and just take pictures and video like an amateur.. I'm afraid things are going to be out of my control so I sold my camera.

And don't ever trust any fansite's masters. Don't trust anyone. Eventhough they're going to release a feedback or something, don't let them make you think that they're not the ones at fault here!

Thanks for reading this..<3

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The Truth about Seventeen's Fansites

M*acaronSh*u and T*alent B*oo

These two are the ones who spread rumours about Seventeen throwing out their fan letters. Once an article popped out about this they started acting like "Ah I'm going to comfort Joshua and Seungkwan" kind of bullshit

M*acaronSh*u

She followed Joshua to the airport (It wasn't for an official schedule) and gave him a Starbucks card

Has spent more than 1,000,000W on Joshua

She once said "I'm tired of Joshua I shall go and find a new Oppa"

She shared NCT's phone number, address, passport number to some people

She's also the master of NCT's Ten fansite (ForTen)

She personally knows Joshua's uncle who is a reporter

She knew Joshua's plan about going to America from his uncle and she even followed her until the airport.

T*alent B*oo

She went to Seungkwan's house, and managed to have his dad's number

She's also the master of BTS' Jungkook fansite (Kookierun)

Almost everyone knows this but:

She often hangs out in a cafe in front of Seventeen's dorm

She shares picture to some other fans saying that she can clearly see Seventeen from that cafe

Ins*omni*a, Aqu*arius, All *Of H*oshi, My Ch*an

They took pictures on Show Champion when Seventeen won for the first time when it's cleary prohibited to take pictures in the studio. Ins*omni*a even fought with a staff and Seventeen saw it.

Fansites who went to YHY's Sketchbook and took pictures with their huge ass cameras:

M*acaronShu*, T*alent B*oo, Ins*omni*a, All *Of H*shi, Sc*oups88, My Ch*an, 19990211_c*om, Sp*arklingm*oment, C*omelyH*an, 문리즈 (I don't know the twitter's username), C*all V*ernon, M*arvelous_MG

Seungkwan and Yoo Heeyeol asked them to not take any pictures but they ignored it and kept taking pictures with that goddamn shutter noises.

Thanks to them Seventeen got scolded and a warning..

And these fansites took pictures on Seventeen's way to Music Bank without standing behind the lines

Now you can agree that Seventeen's fansites are messed up right?

This is not even 1/13 of them^^ Shocking, right?

There's also some proof in another pos in Pann.

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1. [+93][-1] I really feel sorry for Seventeen's carats.. Their images are ruined because of these fansites, they're not even sasaengs but fansites. They opened up those fansites to earn money, and once they finished sucking money from those innocent fans, they will close the fansite..

2. [+76][-0] What kind of fan would care about money more than their idols

3. [+32][-0] Someone please give them an awards for their outstanding acting skills

4. [+29][-0] These are all some well-known fansites, honestly there are such thing as clean fansitesㅋㅋㅋ MacaronShu couldn't go to LA to follow Joshua so she sent Talent Boo insteadㅋㅋㅋ Birds of a feather really do flock togetherㅋㅋ

5. [+29][-0] Acutally, Seventeen's fans are nice but their images are being ruined by these so-called fans..

6. [+25][-0] NCT fans.. Please be careful.. These people are thoughtless sasaengs..

7. [+12][-0] To the fans of another group~ Can you please tell me a way to kick these people out from the fandom?~

8. [+12][-1] I really feel sorry for the innocent fans and no one knows if they will change their name and keep following Seventeen..

9. [+11][-0] Regarding to the fanletter incident.. Shouldn't that be finished in the police office?

10. [+11][-0] I haven't been a fan for a long time but I hope Seventeen will have strengthㅠ

The Truth Part 2 (with proof)


Firstly I want to apologize to the audience in YHY's Sketchbook recording, and those people who felt uncomfotable even by looking at the screen captures of the show. I will try hard so these kind of thing will never happen again in the future.

I first knew that Seventeen had a schedule on YHY's Sketchbook because of the previews that these fansites uploaded. They uploaded the previews of Seventeen on their way to YHY's Sketchbook and since then a lot of people knew that they were going to appear on YHY's Sketchbook and their new hairstyle.

I'm going to give a feedback from the most shocking fansites (MacaronShu and Talent Boo)

Screen captures of MacaronShu and Talent Boo's converstation:

쿠키런 (KookieRun) = Talent Boo

The profile she sent = Seungkwan's father's kakao talk profile

Explanation: KookieRun = Talent Boo, she managed to have Seungkwan's father's phone number and shared his profile to another fans

쿠키런 (KookieRun) = Talent Boo

알수없음 (Unknown) = MacaronShu

KookieRun: *Basically, she complains because she couldn't park her car because there was no vallet service*

KookieRun: *Sends a picture of Seventeen's building dorm, she was in the cafe in front of their dorm*

KookieRun: This is what Sasaengs do f*ck

KookieRun: I made my own tent/stand in front of their dorm

The blue one: Ah you're crazyㅋㅋ

KookieRun: *Sends another picture*

Jisoo=Joshua

Sungkwan=Seungkwan

Moon Junhui=Jun's Korean name

TalentBoo: ㅇㅇ-ya, tell me if the guys are back. JisooSungkwan.

TalentBoo: Where are you

The yellow one: I'm still on my wayㅠㅠ I will arrive in 30 minus

TalentBoo: Moon Junhui went to Pledis

The yellow one: Hul.. Unnie, are you in front of their dorm?

Explanation: You can clearly see that what's Talent Boo doing is the same as what sasaengs usually do. For your information, the yellow box is a fansite of Hoshi (High Class) who followed Seventeen to Yeoseo Island (They shot a reality show there). Seventeen didn't even know that they were going to Yeoseo Island until they got on the ship. 

The next one is MacaronShu

알수없음 (Unknown) = MacaronShu

Unknown: Ah.. You can't tell anyone about this.

Blue box: Ok

Unknown: Because no one knows about this except me right nowㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ

Blue box: Ok!!!

Unknown: Jisoo is going to America in Thursday

Unknown: This is something that I can't tell ㅇㅇㅋㅋㅋ

Unknown: Shua's uncle is a reporter.. ㅇㅇis close to Ten Asia, that's why (she can't tell ㅇㅇ)

Blue box: What are you talking about?

Unknown: I heard this from his uncle

Explanation: She got information that Joshua is going to America from his own uncle who is a reporter.

Unknown: 1. I'm going to sell goods in ForTen and close the fansite down. 2. I'm going to follow Jisoo to L.A before the repackaged album comes out and then I will close down MacaronShu

Unknown: Forten is on rest

Unknown: I also want to rest MacaronShu but somehow it's too bad.. I can't rest it because I'm currently selling photobooks|

Unknown: I'm already tired (of Jisoo) so I'm going to find a new Oppa

Explanation: MacaronShu = ForTen, she put Forten on rest and she wanted to put MacaronShu on rest to but she couldn't because she had to sell photobooks.

'I'm already tired (of Jisoo) so I'm going to find a new Oppa' = She's tired of Jisoo so she's going to find another idols in the future

MacaronShu = Forten = NCT's Ten fansite

Unknown: You all have to follow meㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Unknown: Ah f*ck I don't know.. If they find out then I'm going to close Forten

Unknown: I'm going to close it and sell it f*ck

Unknown: Ah f*ck I'm scaredㅠㅠㅠㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Unknown: I'm going to close Forten, I'm going to close it down f*ckㅠㅠ

Unknown: If Hong Jisoo is seen coming with a woman then I'm going to throw him out

Unknown: I will sell everything I have

Unknown: I'm going back to Ten

Below is what happened when Jisoo went to LA

Unknown: 'I won't upload it and save it for my own collectionsㅠㅠ'

Unknown: 'Really, I won't even spread any rumourㅠㅠ'

Yellow box: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Unknown:ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Unknown: 'Jisoo-yaㅠㅠ I followed you here because I really like youㅠㅠ I'm not going to follow you to LA'

Yellow box: (I can't see it)

Unknown: 'Can't I just follow you until the airport?ㅠㅠ If you feel comfortable then I'll leaveㅠㅠ

Unknown: I shall do something like that'

Explanation: That day MacaronShu gave a starbucks card to Jisoo in the airport without Jisoo knowing. And the plane that Jisoo took was going to transit in Japan so she told Talent Boo to stay in Japan.

Unknown: (I don't understand this part)

Unknown: He's already in his dorm?

Unknown: F*ck, (I'm going to) Kill himㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Conclusion

(I posted about this yesterday)

here

'That Talent Boo fansite went to Ryeowook's concert, and it was prohibited to take any pictures but she still took some and even uploaded it.. Carats, stay strong!'

The screen capture of Kakao Talk with Simpson Theme is Hoshi's fansite, High Class.

High Class was the fansite who followed Seventeen to Yeoseo Island where they shot a reality show there, and she got caught.

Since the show they were shooting is a reality show, Seventeen




didn't know that they were going to Yeoseo Island until the moment they got on the ship.

HighClass, MacaronShu, and Talent Boo went together. As you can see, they are Sasaengs. Sasaengs are not fans.

And during the 'Pretty U' promotions there were some rumours about Seventeen throwing out their fanletters, the one who uploaded and spread it on Pann was Talent Boo and MacaronShu.

Kakaotalk message:

Unknown: Let's compile our collections before the comeback

Unknown: About the kids throwing out their fanletters and gifts.

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Insomnia, Aquarius, All of Hoshi, Boo Loved

These four were the ones who took picture on Show Champion when Seventeen won the first time. They made those pictures as their headers.

The ones who went to YHY's Sketchbook:

Insomnia (This person didn't only take pictures and record video of Seventeen's stage, but also Dynamic Duo's)

Aquarius

Scoups88

Snow Cotton Candy

All of Hoshi

My Chan

Pleasure Seeker

Russian Blue

Dix_neuf1004

Peach Tea

XVLL:SUAL

Comely Han

The ones who made a fuss during Seventeen's way to Music Bank:

Insomnia

Aquarius

19990211_com

Sparkling Moment

Comely Han

Call Vernon

문리즈

Marvelous MG

All of Hoshi

XVLL:SUAL

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Sources: pann 1, 2, and 3, pannaticsvt 1, 2, and 3 @ pannacticsvt.blogspot.com


TL;DR: Just unfollow a lot of Seventeen fansites you know on Twitter because they have done bad things. Really bad things. This is a mess. Also, my first post here. Please have mercy. Sorry mods for the constant messing up.

Comments

[cosmopudin.livejournal.com]

i dont get it, dont most fansite masters end up being saes???
also, what wa sthe first 'incident'?

[purple-blooms.livejournal.com]

OP, you can add the "cray cray sasaengs" tag

[blackholexx.livejournal.com]

That was the tag! I was trying to find it but I was going on sleep deprived so I just gave up. Thank you very much.

[lazmy.livejournal.com]

tbh most fansites are gross and overstep their boundaries

[cafetin99.livejournal.com]

OMG these bitches. Like, what the fuck? They even got NCT's passports numbers, and going to their family house, etc... These individuals... these behaviors should be strongly repudiated.

[jileader.livejournal.com]

Jfc this is some messed up shit

[charlotterhys.livejournal.com]

I have negative respect for fansite owners, they are some of the most rude people I have ever encountered. Nothing like being stuck in a standing pit with girls on step ladders.

[love-quake.livejournal.com]

"Nothing like being stuck in a standing pit with girls on step ladders."
I agree with this so much!

[marizl.livejournal.com]

Sasaengs/fan site masters are the worst. They are literal stalkers.

[aoki-hibi.livejournal.com]

I just started liking these guys after the one who looks like Thomas the Train made an appearance on Duet Festival.
They were really funny on MLT. But it's so sad and really scary to see how obsessive these fansite masters behave. Like WTF... Why do you think you're so deserving? If YHY's Sketchbook staff, YHY, and the boys themselves ask you to comply to the filming rules, then follow them. It's simple. They made their favorite oppas look bad to the broadcast staff. They obviously tarnished the group's image to some staffs.

I hope they get reprimanded. The fact that they know passport numbers and the phone numbers of their relatives is insane.

Also do fansite masters usually behave like this? I've never followed any fansite masters and the only person I've ever actually followed on Instagram was The Klassic, a Krystal fansite who actually closed her site. Is this a common behavior?

[blackholexx.livejournal.com]

This is actually common. Fansites would often sell fan goods and then close their site afterwards and spend the money they get, promising people that the money was for their oppas. They also move fansites constantly and never get caught.

[queenhinata.livejournal.com]

congrats on your first post OP!

the fan site situation is ridiculous. they just messed up not only the fandom's reputation but the group's reputation as well. sketchbook will think twice about bringing them back to the show (and I heard kbs got rid of their music bank broadcast points???). from the performances you can tell Seventeen was really affected :/ and the audience, unlike any other sketchbook performance, was so quiet...

[blackholexx.livejournal.com]

Thank you thank you

Yes apparently points were subtracted some points and they might cut the YHY interview if the flashes were that bad. I don't know if this is true, but they're kicking some fansites out of the fanclub.

[blackholexx.livejournal.com]

Finally got accepted! Anyways, I apparently follow these people on Twitter and I was so disappointed in myself. This type of behavior is not good. They probably did this to other groups, not just SVT and NCT.

[kyulkyung.livejournal.com]

people should definitely unfollow/block/report sasaengs like macaronshu and talentboo, etc. but it's hard to proof which fansites really took pictures at yhysb since only one of them posted previews. tbh it looked like way more than just the ones the op on pann listed.

either way, it's no secret that svt fansites are trash so i'm not too surprised about any of this. idk what it is about svt that attracts such awful people but this isn't the first time they've caused trouble for the boys.

[blackholexx.livejournal.com]

Honestly, it's no surprise that the bigger fansites are the ones breaking the rules because they are the ones that sell the most fan goods. When something corrupted sees something innocent, they feel the need to corrupt it too. I don't know if that was the full list or not but I'll check Pann to see if anymore corrupted fansites come up.

[caipirinhas.livejournal.com]

This is horrific. I saw the article earlier about PLEDIS upping the threats for blacklisting. I thought it was just re: the sketchbook filming. But this is... a lot. I just don't understand how you can claim you're a fan of a group and then do things which endanger their physical safety (and mental safety tbqh) and get them warned by networks, etc.

[furufromthesky.livejournal.com]

That sucks hard - this group probably puts so much hard work and effort into their work only to get the short end when it comes to this crazy people.

What could people have possibly hoped to gain from hindering them in this way??

[sra-interesante.livejournal.com]

in one hand this messed out, sure

but in the other hand i'm sorry if this new kpop fan never knew about it but headmaster have always some weird shit going on
it's not a coincidence some of the headmaster from biggest fansites have close relationship with sasaengs ....

if you follow a fandom long enough you will notice all headmaster know personally one or various members of idols families like sibblings, parents or cousins [probably like this they feel closer to idols], all headmaster have some sasaeng friend that follows idols around even to places they know they should been following them ... like free time with friends or famiily

maybe this fan isnt aware of the relation between headmaster and sasaeng , but saddly this isnt nothing new

[blackholexx.livejournal.com]

Nah I know completely well about the relation with sasaengs and fansite masters. Just wanted to make a post on something that's pretty relevant with what's been happening with SVT.

[msgrottesca.livejournal.com]

Their images are ruined because of these fansites, they're not even sasaengs but fansites

LOL, please. The line between fansites and sasaengs is so blurry it may as well be transparent.

Also, I can't help but roll my eyes when people pull the "These aren't fans, they're sasaengs!" line. It's very "no true Scotsman". They're fans, they're just also insane and disrespectful and stalkers, but that doesn't remove their "fan" status. I feel like people say that because it makes it easier to ignore that fandom has problems - "Oh, well no REAL fan would behave that way so that's not our issue."

[iznanassi.livejournal.com]

Ia w you on the "no true scotsman" fan thing. This is a far less serious example but they use this when fans criticize members of a group for doing something or they don't like some members of a group for whatever reason. I know it's because some of these people are young/haven't been stanning for a long time because I feel like the longer you're doing this the easier it is for you to realize that this rhetoric is harmful for both idols and other fans. It's delusion at its finest.

I mean I've seen the argument that saying they're fans legitimizes what they're doing as just "overzealous love" but like...you could also just call them bad fans lol.

[mayuyu.livejournal.com]

I was hoping All of Hoshi would be one of the good ones since they are so nice on twitter but I guess not.

[yohan94.livejournal.com]

im dissapointed they were one of them but not surprised, they sell fan goods afterall

[yoonjeonghan.livejournal.com]

yikes.... unsurprising though, unfortunately. most if not all fansites are stalkers.

also i remember dix_neuf1004 had photobooks for sale, and instead of actually. mailing them out, she ran off with the money and closed her account... i think she's back now but i can't remember if anyone actually got the photobooks lol

[stephantasm.livejournal.com]

WOW I FOLLWO THEM/???? WHAT THE FUCK

[miwa201.livejournal.com]

tbh i live for fansite drama. anyway, most fansite owners are sasaengs so.

poor guys though, sometimes i wonder what's it like for singers to perform and look down just to see a bunch of dslrs

[blackholexx.livejournal.com]

I live for fansite/sasaeng drama as much as relationship scandals.

But yeah, saw some rappers live, it's sad that most of the front row seats are taken by people who just film what's happening on their phone.

[turtles-tszx.livejournal.com]

Fansite master are scary... Went to music bank recording and they were in group with huge camera. The casual fans are too scared to come close to them, i guess tht's why they have the nice picture all the time.

[jaequeeragenda.livejournal.com]

why are stans such freaks 😑

[luxelet.livejournal.com]

ugh macaronshu i really liked their photos too </333

[misspoirot.livejournal.com]

Poor joshua omg he mustve been so uncomfortable

[mishiro-san.livejournal.com]

I know Comelyhan closed her site down and she gave a response. Idk if they took pictures from inside but XVIIsual and dix_neuf1004 were inside. Dix_neuf1004 took a pic of Jeonghan with his head down leaving KBS studio but deleted that picture from her account. Idk if she made it in but Dajeonghan_1004 took previews of Jeonghan when he arrived at Sketchbook.

Idk if someone can read Korean but around the time Pledis made their statement on sketchbook, this twitter account popped up the same day too. https://twitter.com/tangyatangyaaa

[ruddens.livejournal.com]

damn i followed some of those mingyu sites! well no longer

[cosmicjam.livejournal.com]

Wow, i can't understand how someone can feel so entitled to a person and think this type of behavior is okay and no big deal.
I always wondered how it must feel for idols to see the same people at every event and outside of events, i would be so creeped out and wouldn't want to interact with them. I'd be running away