Iron Disses BIGBANG’s G-Dragon And T.O.P In “System”

[benihime99.livejournal.com]

Rapper Iron recently made a sharp return on June 30 with his new track “System.” In his return after one year, Iron has a lot to say about the state of things: “I was dead to the world, one year in a corner of my room… Police and reporters that take bribes. Written lists. Their political affairs. Timed bombs… The masses manipulated by scandals.”

He also takes some punches at BIGBANG’s G-Dragon and T.O.P. He says in “System,” “I take responsibility for my actions like a man. But my thoughts on weed will never change. When reporters hear this they’ll associate me with some lowlife. That XX shaved his hair and I grew mine […] GD cheating on a fan and pretending he was dumped. Convert to acting instead of rap eunuch T.O.P.”

The lyrics continue: “It’s time. Height like Justin Bieber. The smell of skate gives me more goosebumps than Clara. I’ll make a prediction. You’ll be used and thrown away like Se7en. Bang. I feel a kick like a Kiko.”

Iron refers to all the press surrounding his marijuana scandal, and disses G-Dragon, who received a suspension of indictment for marijuana use in 2011. Suspicion at the time had been that G-Dragon shaved his head because of drug tests, although the prosecutor’s office stated that G-Dragon shaved his head two months after the case was already closed.

Article: Iron makes comeback 3 months after marijuana scandal with 'SYSTEM'... even a high scale diss to G-Dragon
1. [+1,132, -40] From one druggie to another
2. [+959, -94] Does he think that makes him look cool if he disses him with a rap? It just looks pathetic. Go say it to his face.
3. [+934, -140] You're not really in any position to be dissing G-Dragon either...
4. [+65, -13] Why didn't he diss him before? Why diss him after getting caught for marijuana himself? I like Iron's music but the timing of this all is pretty pathetic.
5. [+59, -15] Just sounds like a ploy to get attention
6. [+53, -7] He disses him now but I bet once he gets on a variety show, he'll be like "I really like Big Bang"
7. [+50, -4] Before his scandal: "G-Dragon broke the idol stereotype, he's someone I find amazing and highly respect" ㅋㅋㅋ after his scandal: "GD XXX this TOP XX that"
8. [+36, -8] Why is he dragging GD into this ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ


Source: Naver
1. [+3,265, -42] You can barely call 3 months a period of reflection, it's just enough time to make a song and comeback ㅋㅋ
2. [+1,498, -44] Don't care...
3. [+1,281, -28] What's his revenge sob story when he was the one who got caught with marijuana ㅋㅋㅋ
4. [+1,124, -42] Just read the lyrics... surprised this was even given the pass as a release
5. [+270, -9] He's such a tryhard, sigh

Oh honey, dissing idols is so last season
The mention of Kiko was gross and unnecessary and I'm not sure why T.O.P was thrown in the mix
Is he an "rap eunuch" because he can't rap or is Iron trying to imply something else?

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Comments

[msgrottesca.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't even call this a diss, honestly LOL in the world of hip hop this is child's play.

[holymatrimoany.livejournal.com]

In the world of hip hop, or 'khiphop'? Because this seems to be on par with his peers, haha. I don't know if there's anyone in the khiphop scene I'd consider really up there doing it, but I don't follow it closely, either. Probably Tasha and Tiger JK, but that's it.

That being said, he really is just a "tryhard" trying to be cool talking about "gay pop" and shit. Fuck him.

[hitthoselightz.livejournal.com]

he also said something about "gaypop"

fuck him

[goldenrosalie.livejournal.com]

i used to like iron but this... just... why?
someone mentioned that the song was produced by kidoh. i'm not sure if it's true but i remember that asshole doing another song with dnh crew and being gross about kiko. i guess, i shouldn't be surprised but it's just nasty. learn to write good raps before trying to drag idols.

[msgrottesca.livejournal.com]

lmaooo the bit about Kiko instantly made me think of the random (and gross!) line about her in that song. Idg why these boys are so obsessed with her.

[hyungmoney.livejournal.com]

yikes

[ashiva.livejournal.com]

This seems just pathetic attempt to gain some publicity.

[waves-of-light.livejournal.com]

Hi, I've been in Vegas for the past couple of days and haven't been able to check tumblr and have no gifs of top walking around without any pants on on this phone. Someone please fix that.

to make you wait

[benihime99.livejournal.com]

I'm not even sure which video it's from though

[chimpansee.livejournal.com]

Alrighty then

[violoncelliste.livejournal.com]

this is an attention grab and tbh he can go fuck himself with that 'gaypop' line too. REAL MEN KILL THINGS WITH THEIR BARE HANDS. SO MANLY. Pathetic.

[lily-of-west.livejournal.com]

He is disgusting with the slurs and mentioning Kiko...I guess he really doesn't want to have a career in Korea if this is who he's hoing after for shock value. He should have checked with ChoPd how he faired out when he went after GD/BigBang/YGE peeps...

[fabulousdoll.livejournal.com]

Let Kiko and Clara alone, just talk about the rappers. And "gaypop"... how Jay Park of him.

[ohlookshiny.livejournal.com]

lmao this is so embarrassing/childish/pathetic

[cookiedealer.livejournal.com]

this song could've done without the "diss" (bc it's barely that) bc he said some pretty true things about the industry as a whole
is rap enuch supposed to be smth like idk... top doesn't rly rap anymore he's acting more or smth?? idgi
anyway this is barely a diss so shrugs

[broadcities.livejournal.com]

this is so embarrassing. he thinks he's so cool.

[saemcrh.livejournal.com]

I said in the last post that I loved this, but now seeing the translated lyrics... he can go back into hiding now.

It's not that I'm even a GD fan or anything, it's just so childish and petty. He should have stuck to criticising the government and their laws relating to drugs, instead of attacking those who have had similar controversies to him. It just looks like (and is) an attention grab. Besides the fact that GD's marijuana incident is brought up quite a lot (from what I've seen), even if he benefitted off a system willing to 'shield' him... the problem is still the system. Iron would most definitely have taken some shielding if he could've, he's just bitter he didn't. I get why he's mad, but you attack the root of the issue, the branches are just a result of that.

That was long lol, but I'm just tired of these petty ass feuds. This doesn't even display enough skill to make it interesting, no matter how much weed he smokes, Iron clearly isn't 'real' like that.

Also, the "gay pop" line is gross and obviously derogatory in it's use; along with the unnecessary mention of Kiko. He's trash.

[carra-mia.livejournal.com]

Exactly, like Iron boy, there's a ton of stuff you could criticize GD&and industry for and make some impacfull verse, yet you chose to resort to gaypop, makeup and desperate mention of girls that are not even involved...

You could go hard with some sharp verse and end up applaud, yet you went the disgusting&petty route. We all get that you there for "thug", weed life etc, but telling that you still gonna stand on the "weed's side" is not some act worth badge of honour or something, Iron the Weed Knigh thinks he's above it all and some "realness" protector while he's just...

[otraera.livejournal.com]

#teamgdsmarijuanacigarette

tl;dr

[kwikimart.livejournal.com]

trying to find an accurate translation of the lyrics is exhausting but all i will say is beef is a normal and vital part of hip hop, its not attention seeking and has existed since its inception and if yall think THIS is bad, yall really and i mean really do not listen to or like rap, so please stop saying that beef is just attention seeking.
it is truly embarrassing to see people cape for gd of all people!!! on this just as it is to see people that don't listen to rap in english try and discuss this.
honestly, i appreciate dragging of idol rappers and posers, particularly yg artists (as a stan of many of them) for disrespecting the art form because yge in particular are habitual line steppers, even cl and dara appropriate heavy then take credit for it. its totally valid to call them on being fake. many are talented e.g. mino & top but that doesn't mean as a whole they shouldn't be called out
which is not to say i co-sign every lyric so don't try me, just that gd and top are fair game as rappers. if they love rap so much they should embrace a challenge and hit back with some fire bars
oh and gd is a damn coward! fact. yes, the system in sk regarding weed is unfair but gd still acted like a loser about it all, at least iron owns who he is even if that appears to be messy. when has gd ever faced reality head on and taken responsibility for his bs? exactly
ONCE AGAIN i am not co-signing all the lyrics if these are real or defending iron, im defending hip hop and im here to drag gd coz...he always deserves it lmao

it is really fucking tragic that someone as brave and open minded as iron has been would resort to ugly and narrow minded homophobic lines. its gross. there's no excuse

RE: tl;dr

[evilcoc0nut.livejournal.com]

I would hit the like button if there was one lol. I have no problem with dragging idol rappers, even though I listen to both.

[psharp10.livejournal.com]

lmao bye, the kiko line and the one about gaypop is horrible

[ponpirot.livejournal.com]

I love it. Funny how no one wants to talk about that prostitute line or shady government dealings.

[wonho.livejournal.com]

mte

[canxi.livejournal.com]

Hmm, I guess I gotta remember to read those lyrics whenever it gets fully translated. And translated well.

[boxcuttergirl.livejournal.com]

so he's just another homophobic misogynist. next!

this seems like the beginning of a downward spiral tbh

[miwa201.livejournal.com]

uh, i thought the first batch of lyrics translated were pretty great but the second one (when he does his transformation) is pretty gross. especially with the gaypop line, hunchul wyd

[kwikimart.livejournal.com]

yeah, ia, why didn't he just stick to the main part of the song or beefing with mino? shambles

[kaninasan.livejournal.com]

I love the song, and the part of the lyrics where he goes in on the ~system~ and politicans etc.

But like others have said, where he targets Kiko and Clara and talks about "gaypop" is horrible.

Also I don't really understand why he's going for GD and TOP, he knows they're not going to respond or acknowledge it, and GD still gets dragged by knetz as a druggie so that argument is pretty moot. I can't help but think he targeted them for attention tbh.

That said I hope he's successful, smoking weed shouldn't ruin someone's career, especially when assholes are getting away with DUIs and rapes.

I kinda wish he'd actually go diss Rapmon and, to a lesser extent Suga, bc that would be really interesting.
Also I'm guessing that's where a lot of his idol resentment comes from. But I guess the DNH bond runs too deep, so he won't diss Rapmon anyway.

[jinkiestabi.livejournal.com]

Idols are always fair game, but at least diss people who'll respond back and give you what you want in return. YG artists are not about to do that and acknowledge you're important enough for a response. This was the safest diss in the world to me, and the audacity of dude to not even come hard. If this was Freestyle Friday on Inkigayo, I would boo, lol.

I feel like he should have just stuck with those lines about the govt and all that, but he cheapened his bars to diss idols (everybody knows they don't have no freedom to do shit and blah blah), disrespect women and be homophobic. People won't care about the rest of the verses that really do shed light on something important.

[lily-of-west.livejournal.com]

"If his was Freestyle Friday on Inkigayo, I would boo, lol." whale sound///////

[aimajo.livejournal.com]

TOP needs to send him a really good bottle of wine because it will probably be better than his whining about GD. #ironwho

[elisaorange.livejournal.com]

What's with this deep hatred for men putting on makeup, styling their hair nicely and dressing well? Gaypop?

This guy is a loser. Is he seriously off the hook after 3 months? That's nothing. There are idols that have suffered more consequences during scandals than he has.