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  • All Four Women In Sexual Assault Case Say PYC Wouldn't Let Them Leave The Bathroom


The first round of questioning has been concluded in the case of Park Yoochun's alleged sexual assault of four women, and the women who came forward with allegations have given their statements.


According to media reports, all four women stated that at the times of the sexual assaults, Park Yoochun grabbed the handle to the bathroom door and would not let them leave. They said that while they had limits due to their employment at the adult entertainment establishment, they tried to resist as much as they could. Some testified that Park Yoochun forced them to their knees with his hands on their shoulders.


It was also revealed that the second woman to come forward, who had called the police immediately after the incident, was encouraged by the responding police officer to file a complaint as the officer thought there was reason to believe she had been sexually assaulted.


Park Yoochun has so far filed a complaint of false accusation and blackmail only against the first woman to come forward, who, according to the suit,demanded a settlement of 1 billion won (approximately $864,000) from C-JeS Entertainment prior to filing the police report.



  • Police Intend To Investigate Park Yoo Chun for Aggravated Confinement.


Police are not only investigating Park Yoo Chun for rape allegations, but also for illegal confinement.

On the 20th, a representative from the Gangnam police told the media, "It's our policy to confirm whether the accused kept the alleged victims captive in any of the bathrooms at the site of the scene."

"At the heart of the accusation is the matter of aggravated confinement, which which will be confirmed in later examinations."

According to statute 278 of the penal code, those who arrest and imprison another party and commit cruel acts upon them can be sentenced to more than 7 years of imprisonment and charged with criminal intent.

Presently, the police are increasing their task force for the case from 6 members to 12, and are ramping up their investigations after the evidence the first victim submitted came back positive for male DNA.

Meanwhile, Park Yoo Chun's legal counsel submitted a complaint at the Gangnam Police Station against the plaintiff.

On the 19th, CJeS stated, "We have evidence that Park Yoo Chun did not commit these crimes"; and "This evidence, along with the complaint we'll file on the 20th, will serve as proof of his innocence," referring to their intent to charge the 4 women for libel.



  • Korean National Police Agency Commissioner Kang Sinmyeong Held A Press Conference


Gangnam police on Yoochuns alibi for miss C's case:


CJES statement:


More from the press conference of KR National Police Agency's commissioner:




  • News Report Reveals Phone Call Conversation Between CJES and First Alleged Victim


A recent news report on SBS 8 News revealed new insight to the case of JYJ Yoochun's alleged rape case involving the first women to report the incident.

Initial reports on this incident by CJes Entertainment claimed that Lee, the first woman who filed a report against Yoochun claiming that she was raped, requested a settlement fee of 1 billion Won later lowering it to 500 million Won. They claimed that this was the reason that they were going to take legal actions against her despite the fact that now she has withdrawn her legal suit against Park Yoo Chun.

However, SBS News recently reported that Lee's side provided evidence contradicting this statement in the form of recorded phone conversations. They also claim that they did not receive any money from CJes Entertainment.

The recorded voice provided by Lee's side says, "We don't know what we can do to make you feel better, we have thought long and hard."

"I think if you give us an amount first and we meet your needs that would be the right thing to do."

An acquaintance of Lee also told SBS in an interview, "They kept asking us to wait for a day saying that they wanted to settle and asked us to give them a price."

Lee's boyfriend stated that they received no such money stating, "If we had settled we would have left paperwork but there is nothing like that."

CJes however only responded saying that they would reveal everything only to the police and not respond individually to reports on the case.

The police have stated that they have finished investigations on Lee's boyfriend and CJes Entertainment's CEO and that they will get to the bottom of this settlement fee by looking into their bank accounts and tracking the flow of money.


  • Yoochun's Alibi Reports for 3rd and 4th Alleged Rapes Appear To Be Wrong


Recently, a hot topic going around is that Yoochun had an alibi in the third and fourth alleged victims in Yoochun’s sexual assault case. Basically fans started searching and said that he was in China on both dates and thus couldn’t have committed the sexual assault in Korea.

This was capped off by a report by Sports World that reinforced this narrative that he was in China, and Koreaboo adding their typical clickbait shit [sic]calling the alleged victims liars.


[cont'd] The third alleged victim said that the sexual assault happened on June 12, 2014. The rebuttal from fans and Sports World said he couldn't have because he was in Chengdu at the time preparing for a concert. The problem with that is the media captured him in Korea at Incheon Airport leaving for Guangzhou on June 13, meaning he was definitely not yet in China.

Furthermore, the report claiming he has an alibi cites that he was in Chengdu for the The Return Of The King concert, but that was actually held on September 6, 2014, and he was actually in Guangzhou for a fanmeeting on June 14, 2014. The event he had previous to heading to the airport in Korea was a similar fanmeeting in Seoul on June 4, 2014.

That supports a report by TV Report that Yoochun was in Korea on June 12, 2014.

    TV Report reported his alibi was not sound as the JYJ member was in Korea on June 12, 2014.


Given the available evidence, and the amount of incorrect facts, one would have to be willfully trying to mislead the public to come to the conclusion that he had an abili for the third alleged victim.


The fourth alleged victim said that the alleged sexual assault took place on February 21, 2015. The rebuttal from fans and Sports World says that he was in China at the time for a fanmeeting tour. The problem is that the fanmeetings in question took place on February 7, 2015 in Beijing and February 14, 2015 in Chengdu, and the media took pictures of him arriving back to Korea at Incheon Airport on February 16, 2015.

Of course, maybe he went back to China between February 16 and February 21. The problem with even that is a reporter posted a picture with Yoochun on Instagram from February 21, 2015, as she conducted an interview with him for his movie ‘Haemoo‘.

Furthermore, he attended an award ceremony in Korea in Incheon on February 26, 2015. When he actually went back to China for a fanmeeting in Shanghai, it was on March 1, 2015.

Again, the alibi was either based on mistaken info or purposefully vague, and aside from believing he has the ability to teleport or something, Yoochun was in all likelihood in Korea on February 21 (and even from February 16 through February 26) before leaving for China at the start of March.

As such, unless there are things I’ve yet to be made aware of involving Yoochun’s alibis [sic], the reality of the situation appears to be that the Sports World report on him having an alibi due to being in China was woefully incorrect, and so were the fans trying to provide him with an alibi using similar excuses. Ironically, the information needed to prove the alibis as bunk was easily accessible due to the fandom’s own dedicated documenting of Yoochun’s movements.


Of course, this doesn’t mean that Yoochun did sexually assault the third and fourth alleged victims, nor does it mean he doesn’t have an alibi at all. Rather, it just means that the alibi of Yoochun being in China at the time of the third and fourth alleged rapes is demonstrably false as far as we know, and that everybody should therefore stop trying to spread the narrative that Yoochun is definitely innocent and that the alleged victims are clearly liars since it’s based on inaccurate information.




Sources:
1: Soompi
2: Insight, Koreaboo, OH
3: Nate, Translation: OH
4: SBS via Naver, Koreaboo
5: AsianJunkie, OH

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Excuse the long post; I hope it is not tedious to go through; edited it as best as I could. Let me know if I screwed up the timeline of the reports.

I feel dirty just writing about this guy. Hate the word alleged.
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Date: 2016-06-23 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorawa.livejournal.com
The media ain't shit for their clickbait BS in regards to this case, lol @ his alibis being blown the fuck open

These poor girls... I hope they get some damn justice. I literally want to vomit reading that he forced them to their knees.

Date: 2016-06-23 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coite-bodher.livejournal.com
this post is incredibly organized. thank you for being objective, op, since it's really hard to get information about this case that isn't sauteed in bias.

Date: 2016-06-23 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boxclocks.livejournal.com
So the second victim to come forward had had the actual abuse occur before the first victim to come forward right? So if she called the police right after the incident occurred, the police has to have some record of that right? In conclusion, it seems extremely unlikely that any of this "extortion" stuff was pre-planned and there should be evidence to support that. With his alibis being proven to be false (or at the very least very likely to be false) as well, I can't see how anyone can defend this guy. Everything about him stinks.

I hope there aren't people around harping on about how the first woman took the settlement and how that somehow proves his innocence...I can see how stressful and traumatic going through all the legal procedures would be and that she could have taken up the offer just to get this thing done with.

What a world we live in where sexual predators can commit their crimes freely and face little backlash or repercussions whilst the victims will mostly be shamed and ridiculed.

Date: 2016-06-23 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purekpopology.livejournal.com
You are correct. I read a Soompi article (translated from YTN) that had dates and times that the 2nd victim contacted the police via a helpline, and the time the police responded to her call, etc. I agree that it's extremely unlikely these 4 women concocted a master plan that started half a year ago.

Date: 2016-06-23 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cafetin99.livejournal.com
If there weren't any CCTV and they occurred in the bathroom, and considering the amount of time that has passed, how they will prove that he is guilty? I hope that there's a way to solve this and jail this rapist.

Date: 2016-06-23 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisaorange.livejournal.com
Girl has it on record and everything, yess.

"The recorded voice provided by Lee's side says, "We don't know what we can do to make you feel better, we have thought long and hard."

"I think if you give us an amount first and we meet your needs that would be the right thing to do."

An acquaintance of Lee also told SBS in an interview, "They kept asking us to wait for a day saying that they wanted to settle and asked us to give them a price."

I'm honestly disgusted at Yoochun and his company, on top of committing disgusting crimes, you lie about it to the very end. These people don't have the slightest ounce of humanity or morsel of regret, shame or sympathy. What a shitty human, how terrible to live in a world with people like these.

Date: 2016-06-23 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bea-chan22.livejournal.com
I just hope that the victims will have justice against this chauvinistic pig's crimes.

Fuck him, I just want him to be isolated and never, ever given any sort of showbiz work whatsoever.

Date: 2016-06-23 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purekpopology.livejournal.com
I had made a post with some update articles, but this one is so much better! Thanks OP!

I have heard from some Yoochun supporters that the 3rd and 4th victims changed the dates of their assaults from the dates they had originally stated. I asked two people for their source on that, but neither provided them. If anyone here knows where those claims came from, I'd be interested to know.

Things are looking worse and worse for Yoochun. C-Jes hasn't said much, and I can't help but think it's because they have little to provide for his defense.

I'm a little frustrated that there has been no confirmation yet whether or not the male DNA found on the underwear is Yoochun's or not. I understand that these things take time and there's probably a strict process that has to be followed, but it's such an important piece of information I'm impatient.

Also, anyone who reads JYJ3, please know that they only translate and post positive leaning articles about this case so do not assume their posts are necessarily more factual than any other, or that you will get the full story by following them. That might have been an obvious thing to say, but I don't want anyone mislead. One of the translators for JYJ3 told me this when I emailed them asking them to translate some articles.

Wow this comment got long. I feel very invested in this case, because so much of my time in the kpop fandom has been invested in DB5K/JYJ. I think it's how I'm coping with my disappointment and anger over what kind of person he turned out to be.
Edited Date: 2016-06-23 04:53 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-06-23 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nrafx.livejournal.com
Pretty sure the changing dates only came from what was reported by the media, and hence not necessarily based on the victims themselves changing the dates they reported. I've been meaning to try confirm one way or the other, but it's hard when there's been so much information coming out of all dif (and often questionable) places.

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Date: 2016-06-23 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opd-sith.livejournal.com
thank you, OP, for not including any biased/non-objective bolding or comments. It's refreshing to see a clear cut post with all of the evidence in a very organized fashion.

Date: 2016-06-23 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sra-interesante.livejournal.com
i was willing to read his so-called alibi ..... then you have fans and paparazzis pics of him in the airport proving he didnt leave korea before the 13th .... dude you forgot you have people following you around? and they actually bring cameras to take tons of pics?

at this point its kinda funny to see in one hand some fans trying to shield him making all those fake reports and collecting information about his schedule back then ... and then you have others fans with all those pics proofs of him moving around seoul making police investigation even easier ... your sasaengs pics are just helping to build the case against him

i wonder how those fans feel right now
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Date: 2016-06-23 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nrafx.livejournal.com
Edit: I was supposed to reply and hit the wrong button oops.

Thanks OP for compiling this post. It's been difficult to sort out which new information is actually accurate and what the timeline of everything is. Also super frustrating to see people share wrong info and misleading articles w clickbaity headlines (looking at you Koreaboo) to try prove Yoochun is innocent.

I've followed cases like this before, and usually the perpetrator's side can do a far better job of making accusations seem somehow questionable... not a single thing CJes has put out makes me think there's any possibility he's not guilty here. The blackmail accusation did nothing to try debunk the fact that he sexually assaulted A, and the alibis all seem to have been proven false. Add everything else on top of that, and I can't see how anyone can feel comfortable defending his innocence. It's all incredibly disturbing.
Edited Date: 2016-06-23 05:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-06-23 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angela-derp-otp.livejournal.com
This is so fucking gross ugh....

I am going to sell all my Yoochun goods I collected over the past 10 years and donate everything to an organization that support sexual assault victims. Might as well take some money from the horrible people that still support him?...

IDK I feel like this is the least I can do?? lol why I feel guilty for having him as my fave before :(

Edited Date: 2016-06-23 05:04 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-06-23 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nrafx.livejournal.com
I think that's a good thing to do. I really wish I could sell my JYJ DVDs (and poss the DBSK ones too) bc I know I don't even want to touch them anymore and they take up so much space, but shipping them from where I am will probably just be too hard :/

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Date: 2016-06-23 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fayfayren.livejournal.com
Thanks for the comprehensive post, OP.

I'm glad that his alibis are falling apart. I can't believe that there are still so many fans that believe he is 100% innocent.

Date: 2016-06-23 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soyunatetera.livejournal.com
I watched that Happy Camp episode of when he was on China and thought he was funny ¬¬
damn you Yoochun. Hope this will end soon with him in jail of course... like I hope in the next days some irrefutable evidence will appears and save us from seeing his name again

Date: 2016-06-23 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alleybetwixt.livejournal.com
I hadn't seen about the Aggravated Confinement thing. That's really interesting. I imagine that's similarly hard to prove as the assaults with no video evidence. But it's another angle I'm glad they're investigating. Hopefully they can get him on something... anything. Please...

The impression I got from CJeS's previous statements was their position as 'We can't prove he's innocent, you can't prove he's guilty, so we're just getting you on blackmail/extortion for money regardless of the context.' Pretty much self-incriminating as I see it.

I'm taking every bit of news/speculation with a barrel of salt for either side, but the biggest thing I find strange is that Yoochun apparently hasn't been questioned/interrogated by the police yet? I guess they're trying to gather and research everything so they have a full picture before they talk to him, but... ??????

Seemingly they should have questioned him as quickly as possible so he or CJeS didn't have time to craft alibis or explanations. Must be part of their normal process, just seems odd to me.

Date: 2016-06-23 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avocados.livejournal.com
omg i saw pyc and thought pcy

Date: 2016-06-23 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudo-shigure.livejournal.com
same. every time tbh.

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Date: 2016-06-23 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tungatunga.livejournal.com
Good thing that they try to throw as many as possible charges at him, I hope some stick and he will be convicted.

Date: 2016-06-23 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eomie.livejournal.com
Lock the bastard up.

Date: 2016-06-23 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daydreamsofblue.livejournal.com
Thanks for putting all of this together OP. I was worried Omona had become too mentally exhausted by this case and that I wouldn't be seeing updates for awhile (unless the jyj fan(s) came back with more sketchy articles from dubious sources). I'm glad to have as much insight on this case as possible and to not have to go to soompi or, god forbid, akp for more information.

CJeS has been failing so hard at every single step so far in this case. I can only hope they continue to do so :)

Date: 2016-06-23 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
Thank you for the post OP

Idk if anyone knows the blog kpopdetectives (not saying theyre a reliable source bc of some of the other questionable shit on their blog) but they did an alibi checking post as well and like one of the first things to come up was that CJeS' own side had put out a notice saying that June 12th fanmeet was postponed to the next day lmao. Like did they really think they could get away w distorting evidence in a police investigation..pls.

And then there's the assumption that bc dates were changed in reports....that means the victim changed them and not that the media source was unreliable...pls.

This is so trying. On one hand you have this serial rapist and on the other hand you have his fans covering their ears, screaming, and making up nonsense and saying it proves their point. Yeesh.

Date: 2016-06-23 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extraenchanted.livejournal.com
finally had time to read details about this news. so disappointed and disgusted with yoochun. argh.

Date: 2016-06-23 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blck-ink.livejournal.com
how can people still support and believe him when his alibis are proven to be wrong like do you really not have a heart or??

Date: 2016-06-23 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chihana11.livejournal.com
I think they are in denial. I sort of hope some are working through the stages of grief-anger, denial, bargaining and acceptance because it would mean they will eventually stop supporting him.

But I might be in denial myself, there are still fans who support KHJ. I've seen fans saying they will always support PYC, even if he is convicted, because people make mistakes.

It's really hard as a JYJ fan knowing I loved and supported this monster, I really wish other fans will see the light and stop too. The victim blaming comments and the lies and misinformation about his alibis are not a good look. When I think about what these 4 women went through because of this guy and now fans are blaming them and shielding him, I want to be sick.

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Date: 2016-06-23 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chihana11.livejournal.com
Thank you for this excellent post OP.

Date: 2016-06-23 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caipirinhas.livejournal.com
thank you for taking the time to compile this. Such a disheartening and disgusting situation. The worst part is that there are likely more victims out there. =(

Date: 2016-06-23 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bubblyshades.livejournal.com
thank you for putting this post and organizing all this info, OP.

Date: 2016-06-23 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyokomurasaki.livejournal.com
This just came out today OP but apparently the police questioned CJeS CEO and his father, for all the good it will do: http://www.soompi.com/2016/06/23/police-question-c-jes-presidents-father-park-yoochun-sexual-assault-case/

Date: 2016-06-23 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chihana11.livejournal.com
I hope this is true. Maybe it will be reveled to us if BCJ and his father really are gagsters?
I think if they are I will stop supporting JS and JJ.

Those soompi comments are a mess.
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