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One week it was a pop star, driven out of Korea over an unpatriotic post he made on his MySpace page years before he was famous. The next week a book published in Germany that didn't shed Korea in a glorious light had many a netizen up in arms. And almost every week, netizens, both Korean and foreign, are worked into hysterical tizzies by journalists reporting on rising crime by foreigners. The keystrokes of Korea's angry netizens, although the issue at hand many times is indeed much ado about nothing, end up having far-reaching consequences.

Still, some issues are serious and deserve public debate, such as the outcry these last weeks over a judge's lenient sentence for child predator Cho Du-sun, which netizens and citizens alike rightfully took issue with. The court told prosecutors Cho didn't deserve the life sentence they had sought because he was drunk, and thus was "weaker mentally and physically."

But many of society's important debates are taking place online among anonymous netizens, where overreaction and libel are all too easy and less effective. It was the case with the rapist. After the story broke, netizens scampered to reveal his true identity, and in their blind fury ended up circulating a photo of the wrong man.

So who are these angry netizens? And more importantly, why do anonymous netizens' opinions even matter? Professor Min Byoung-chul of Konkuk University says a lot of complicated social factors are at play. He believes the country's low birth rate - the lowest in the developed world - has created a self-centered family structure. "Parents treat their child as if they are queens or kings, and children who do not interact with other siblings become selfish," thus intensifying competition in education, and by doing so, skewing the social development of children and young adults, he said.

Min also points to two ingredients that can stew to create an angry netizen: The Net's anonymity and prolonged suppression of expressive instinct.

"When Koreans were kids, they were not allowed to express their opinions and feelings, compared to other countries, because of cultural aspects," said the professor
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In Korean society, creativity is generally caged and controlled from a very young age by parents in an attempt to buttress school entrance scores. After all, drawing pictures won't get you an A in English. But even after youth enter the workforce, personal expression and creativity are kept to a minimum; subordinates are rarely encouraged speak their minds.

"They don't argue with their superiors or elders. So I believe the anger or the restrained feelings that come from this can actually become a reason why people become angry netizens," Min added.

Caged creative youth + contorted salaryman + anonymity + the internet = angry netizen. The recipe for social revolt is ripe. Vive le (online) revolution.

And Vera Hohleiter, a German living in Seoul, found out how pissed off they are. After her book "Sleepless nights in Seoul" was published in Germany, and a Korean student mistranslated passages from German to suggest she spoke ill of Korea (the evil of all evils here), a tsunami of online rage hath rain down upon her.

Her blog was flooded with hundreds of hate-filled comments from anonymous posters. She was called a "Nazi bitch" and told to "go back to Nazi Germany." But some didn't stop there. There were even death threats and another netizen called her a racist and a descendent of Hitler.

What caused the hullabaloo? She must have done something terrible, something obscene, right? Not so. Like most internet lynchings, it was another case of much ado about nothing. Her crime was to suggest that Korean women don't look comfortable in short skirts. She also said that kimchi smells bad.

Vicious.

According to Hohleiter, everything started with one Korean student in Germany. "I'm not sure if she read (my book) or if she heard form someone who read it, but she said that I wrote the show ("Chatting with Beauties," on which she is a participant) was scripted. Someone's also said I said my boyfriend is always drunk and never has time for me, or at work and that I complained about that and he doesn't give me enough attention. But it's not true at all."

From there, the story caught on like wildfire on the internet. The main problem the more moderate netizens had with the book was that the opinions expressed in it by Hohleiter, as translated by the Korean student in Germany, were different from the opinions Hohleiter had expressed in one TV interview and on "Chatting with Beauties."

Hohleiter has since released the book in Korean, she said, to clear up misconceptions.

But why are the opinions of angry, anonymous netizens taken seriously? Indeed, every country has its share of online negativity, and there's no evidence to prove that Koreans are more negative in their online postings than people from other countries. (Just look at comments under any U.S. politics-related YouTube video to get a taste of the angry American netizenry). But nowhere do netizens seem to grab as much attention as they do in Korea.

Journalists refer to "netizen opinion" in their news reports. Lawmakers respond to online sentiment. The government even crafted immigration rules at the urging of a group of angry netizens. All E-2 visa holders are currently required to pass an HIV/AIDS test before they are granted work permits. That doosey, which puts Korea in league with some of the most putrid countries on the world, was championed by an internet cafe of angry netizens.

But a quick look at the numbers shows that opinions expressed on internet message boards are anything but representative of society as a whole. Indeed, they aren't even representative of internet users as a whole.

According to a study conducted over a 10-day period from Dec. 20-30 last year, the JoongAng Ilbo reported that more than 41 million people visited the popular portal site Naver, but only 0.84 percent left at least one posting (There were more than 4.3 million postings in total). Digging deeper into the numbers shows that only 3.4 percent of that 0.84 percent was responsible for more than 50 percent of the postings. Just 11,878 users were responsible for the majority of posting comments.

That 3.4 percent of posters - 0.029 percent of all internet users visiting the site - is what journalists and lawmakers are using to gauge online sentiment.

Hankuk University of Foreign Studies professor Cho Chong-hyuk admits the internet has become a hotbed of negativity. "The internet has been abused and emerged as a space with negative activities - one example would be posting bad comments. Meaning the Korean netizens have not used the internet with its full potential," he said.

Min said we have to find ways to utilize the internet in a more constructive, positive manner. "A possible solution is to improve online manners by fostering people to post positive, rather than attacking or negative comments, online by altering the social atmosphere through such movements," he said.

The initiative he founded, the Sunfull organization, has set Nov. 6 "Sunfull Day," where netizens will post positive comments for 24 hours on its website. The ultimate goal, he said, is to foster a more civil online culture. As a bonus, Nov. 6 will also attempt to set a Guinness World Record.

"This is the first time such an event has taken place worldwide. We are aiming at setting this as a Guinness World Record. Currently, as of Oct. 17, 137,906 people from 377 schools and 427 companies have vowed to post positive comments on that day," Min said.
In the meantime, as you tiptoe through the internet, try to stay on netizens' good side, lest you draw their ire.

Claudio in "Much Ado About Nothing" said, "Done to death by slanderous tongue, Was the Hero that here lies." But had he a Cyworld webpage, he might have phrased it more like, "Done to death by slanderous postings, Was the Hero that here lies."

 

Source: The Korea Herald

Long but interesting article
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Important parts of the article are in bold for those who are too lazy to read >_>
Extremely important parts are in bold and in big font so that you can read them even without your glasses/contacts :D

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finalfantasyo13.livejournal.com
wow, that was really interesting.

Date: 2009-10-28 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaele.livejournal.com
yeah sorry, tl;dr
but i'm pretty sure nobody's going to have success regulating the internet, so...*sigh
what can you do?

/shrugs

Date: 2009-10-28 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaele.livejournal.com
okay, went back and read.
still have the same opinion.
life sucks, get a helmet >.>

Date: 2009-10-28 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unsospiro.livejournal.com
Give people the opportunity of anonymity and they would rather use it to express negativity than positivity.

Us humans are so advanced technologically but we still can't communicate with one another on a fundamental basis.

Date: 2009-10-28 05:58 am (UTC)

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:50 am (UTC)
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that was interesting...

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:50 am (UTC)
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"But nowhere do netizens seem to grab as much attention as they do in Korea."

yes why in Korea?

Date: 2009-10-28 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diadust.livejournal.com
Precisely. MTE.

Well, I don't see netizens in Singapore making a fuss when people said durians are smelly.

But that's not the point. Its really intriguing to see how they get so fired up over a problem when they are not the ones directly involved. They..just make things more complicated and worse.

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:51 am (UTC)
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idk you can only blame suppression so much, I mean other Asian cultures suppress their kids but their netizens are not nearly as fierce. As for having one child, a lot of other Asian countries have one child families so I don't think that should be a huge point. I think it has more to do with the fact that the media reports it like it's actual news. >_>; I'm baffled that even their lawmakers empower them...and also their insecurity brings about this ridiculous so called 'nationalism' that has another word for it.

Date: 2009-10-28 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xkuroxhimex.livejournal.com
YES

You took the words right out of my mouth. Le hechan leña al fuego (they add firewood to fire XD). We get full articles on the most trivial things that netizen uproars are bound to make the news as well. :/ The thing is that they know it and take advantage of it.

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:51 am (UTC)
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reading this article...
makes me feel like the netizens are immature...

idk =\ i don't like them either way

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:51 am (UTC)
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I wish the netizens' smack would be powerless. There's trolls everywhere, but only in Kpop do you see trolls ruining celebrities' careers.

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treat.livejournal.com
"Sunfull Day," where netizens will post positive comments for 24 hours on its website.

Great initiative, but sad that we have to do this. Internet referees? What are Korean netizens, kindergartners?

The difference between "American" netizens and Korean netizens is that....while Americans might call a celebrity on youtube "an untalented ho" or "gaaaay" or something like that, it's not that serious (or at least the world does not take them seriously). Korean netizens get more personal, or maybe it's the just the language. Something along the lines of "you doglike bastard, go back to America you black-haired whitey."

What gives Korean netizens more credibility is that you have to sign up with your national IDs, I guess? Which also surprises me that people would write such negative things.

But I do agree about societal repression. Korea is still a deeply traditional, Confucianist country despite modernization.

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proleptical.livejournal.com
uh, really. it's extremely stupid that the netizens are given so much power in Korea.

like they said, they don't represent the majority of a country at ALL.

i mean, in the US, if the internet truly represented popular sentiment Ron Paul (bahahahahahaha!) would be the president of the us and the country would be pretty /b/-fied.

i'm sure it's the same case in korea.

Date: 2009-10-28 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdferguson.livejournal.com
lawl at the US being /b/-fied. pedobear stamps and FAIL captions everywhere.

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:54 am (UTC)
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A possible solution is to improve online manners by fostering people to post positive, rather than attacking or negative comments, online by altering the social atmosphere through such movements...

Take a pass on that. Libel is totally my style, otherwise where would ONTD be?

This article was very interesting and made a number of good points, but I do not believe that internet culture can or should be regulated. Psychopathic Korean teenagers ruin peoples' careers, but I think that going straight to huge causes or government intervention skips several levels. Like forum self-regulation, or, you know, therapy.

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] now0anon.livejournal.com
Never would I have imagined angry netizens to be discussed in such a scholarly way. Well, at least S.K.'s trying to figure out how to calm their angry asses down.

But still...sorta lulz. I can just imagine the next article: "Teh Internet: Srs Bsns?"

Date: 2009-10-28 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-silver.livejournal.com
I can just imagine the next article: "Teh Internet: Srs Bsns?"

i almost choked on my tea XDD

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shynygal.livejournal.com
Yeah Journalists in Korea need to start being journalists and not use netizens opinions as sources. I never thought of the family set up as being a reason why the netizens are such...netizens lol. But they seriously need to take the power out of these peoples hands before it goes any further

Date: 2009-10-28 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mumbles.livejournal.com
lol isn't that why there's always a hate meme going on?

Date: 2009-10-28 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xoxoknlove.livejournal.com
LOL. the only difference is our hate memes don't make it to NBC news or something...

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aprettyeternity.livejournal.com
As I believe that the article and some of the comments here are starting to touch on, it's not even the ferocity of the netizens' opinions and actions that are most prominent in Korea. It is more so (from an outsider's point of view) the power of the netizens' words that is so startling in the specific case of Korea. Hence the problem might not only lie in learning ~*proper etiquette*~ for actions online but to stem the amount of power netizens' opinions have on things. To be quite frank, the opinions of random stressed out people should not matter that much to a country. The idea that is does matter this much currently cannot be changed with just etiquette classes.
/srs bzn

...and YouTube comments are a cesspool all on its own. XDD LOL.

Anyway interesting article. 8D

Date: 2009-10-28 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unsospiro.livejournal.com
"the opinions of random stressed out people should not matter that much to a country."

This might be easier in some other countries, but Korea is very isolated and online hate spreads much quicker and with more ferocity than in a lot of places.

That paired with Korea's conservative political and social life is like a house drenched in gasoline next to a tub of lit fireworks.

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Date: 2009-10-28 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blooberrie.livejournal.com
Interesting article.

Now how do we get them to stfu?

Date: 2009-10-28 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirenasfun.livejournal.com
LOL, THIS!

Date: 2009-10-28 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pocketofskies.livejournal.com
i don't think any amount of suppression can explain the outrageous actions of those korean netizens. i mean, stuff like suicide petitions? really now? it's like they believe that just they own the lives of celebrities and deserve to have a say in the outcome of every single issue.

Date: 2009-10-28 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unsospiro.livejournal.com
Given a chance to say something and get away with it, it's getting less surprising how malicious human beings can be, unfortunately =/

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Date: 2009-10-28 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hergracious.livejournal.com
"Parents treat their child as if they are queens or kings, and children who do not interact with other siblings become selfish,"

Hah- Selfishness breeds Arrogance, Arrogance breeds Envy, Envy breeds Hate.
HATE = Hate Comments.

Sometimes I feel that it's the lack of reality or real life these netizens experience that turns them into demon commenters...

One word: GET A LIFE !

Date: 2009-10-28 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finalfantasyo13.livejournal.com
"Parents treat their child as if they are queens or kings, and children who do not interact with other siblings become selfish,"

i swear this part made me very idk..pissed that some people could be this spoiled, only child or not.

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Date: 2009-10-28 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdferguson.livejournal.com
good luck with that. some people just enjoy being assholes knowing that no one will know who they are behind a glowing computer screen. i just think all this fuckery wouldn't be such a big deal if journalists were to stop reporting with netizen comments.

Date: 2009-10-28 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pocketofskies.livejournal.com
mte anonymity gives some people power

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Date: 2009-10-28 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misstellittome.livejournal.com
interesting outlook on things...maybe i'm just cynical but i don't think the 24 hours of positive commenting is going to do much...:/

i think people just need to stop taking the netizens so serious. like the article said, those people commenting don't even represent one majority...

Date: 2009-10-28 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] locofruitcake.livejournal.com
Ah, the banes of globalization & technological development. :/

This isn't a phenomenon unique to South Korea, but it does seem more prevalent in SK. D:

Date: 2009-10-28 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] locofruitcake.livejournal.com
LOL. and if i had read clearly, i would have seen that the article said that XD

"A possible solution is to improve online manners by fostering people to post positive, rather than attacking or negative comments
here's to hoping.

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Date: 2009-10-28 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readyforever.livejournal.com
Just 11,878 users were responsible for the majority of posting comments.

That 3.4 percent of posters - 0.029 percent of all internet users visiting the site - is what journalists and lawmakers are using to gauge online sentiment.


talk about having a skewed sample. :\


& isn't it SK that has the No IP-tracing law which prevents said netizens from being responsible for their words&actions?
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Date: 2009-10-28 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikayla.livejournal.com
Out of this entire entry, I think this part should be highlighted and bolded:

According to a study conducted over a 10-day period from Dec. 20-30 last year, the JoongAng Ilbo reported that more than 41 million people visited the popular portal site Naver, but only 0.84 percent left at least one posting (There were more than 4.3 million postings in total). Digging deeper into the numbers shows that only 3.4 percent of that 0.84 percent was responsible for more than 50 percent of the postings. Just 11,878 users were responsible for the majority of posting comments.

That 3.4 percent of posters - 0.029 percent of all internet users visiting the site - is what journalists and lawmakers are using to gauge online sentiment.

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Date: 2009-10-28 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabi.livejournal.com
I think all of us know this by now. They're immature spoiled brats, etc etc. The only thing that really needs to be done though is that the adults should stop giving in to these kids. Reporters need to stop using their comments as sources. Don't give them so much power and look, now they're stepping on toes and climbing over heads.

Date: 2009-10-28 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turdferguson.livejournal.com
yeah, i know money is what drives these people but why not have some *journalistic integrity* for once nahmean?

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Date: 2009-10-28 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musikq.livejournal.com
web --> annoymity --> lack of accountability.

people can just start shit anywhere because they dont really have to be responsible for what they say. and given how fast and connected the world is, it spreads like wild fire and many are contaminated.

this is why i take all articles with a pinch of salt nowadays, even if its from 'credible' sources.

:|

People can say shit like the Korean Govt dont respect freedom of speech or privacy by making identification/Social security pass thing complusory for any Korean on the web. IA with the Korean Govt on so many levels - esp when rights were premised on respecting human value et, but people nowadays just manipulate 'rights' to get away with they want .. so fuck these 'rights' really :||||||

Date: 2009-10-28 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shincaru.livejournal.com
The problem with the SK gov't is that while they SAY things that may seem logical (e.g. stop being pricks), they're not really doing it to benefit anyone but themselves - they've attempted to pass a bill which is more or less a gag order on noisy netizens, but it's NOT to benefit celebrities. They only passed that one stupid bill on the Aids/HIV thing to try and gain some ground with the netizens - they don't give a fuck about who they affect (explaining how HOLY SHIT what a fucked up law it is), as long as they can secure enough votes to get into power again.

Netizen culture has created a protest culture against the current government, and is responsible for the government's below-20% approval rating. Below. 20%. Even Bush did better than that. So this current SK gov't is not the one to support on this issue - everything they do now is only to pander to the netizens and hope to not get unseated come next election.
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