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Instiz: Twice's Nayeon updates with an apology post

"Hello, this is Nayeon. First of all, I'd like to apologize regarding the Instagram post I uploaded earlier... I was too careless. I'm sorry for concerning so many people and will work to make sure that this never happens again and that I only use official digital music distribution services. I will always be careful with everything that I do. I'm sorry."




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"I'm shocked that people are calling her pretty and nice just because she responded fast to the issue. That doesn't make the fact that she downloaded music illegally go away. Does writing a clean apology post change that?"

"How do people know it was downloaded illegally?"
- It says SoundCloud in her initial post.

"Clean apology, she made no excuses for herself."

"At least she responded quickly..."

"Just because she apologized doesn't change the fact that she did something illegal. I'm glad she gave feedback but I'm still disappointed in her and she should apologize to Taeyeon directly."

"She responded fast but... does that mean she's been listening to an illegal download this whole time?"

"Why doesn't she apologize to Taeyeon instead?"

"She should've included an apology to Taeyeon too. If she uses official digital music sites, why did she download Taeyeon's song through Soundcloud... I'm glad she gave feedback but it still upsets me ㅠㅠ"

"I'm actually amazed that she has no concept of how digital songs work especially when her own song 'Like Ooh-Ahh' is known for climbing back up the charts..."

"Aigoo.. a singer downloading illegal music ㅠㅠ"

"Shouldn't she be apologizing to Taeyeon..."

"She didn't make up excuses and cleanly admitted to her mistake"

"A bit shocking that a singer streamed a song illegally ㅠㅠ I listen to Twice often myself but the fact that an actual singer did something illegal like that ㅠㅠㅠ don't do it next time"

"I don't think it's fair to let it slide just because she gave feedback. It doesn't cover for her mistake. The disappointment is still there."

"Wow, that's shocking. Even if she apologized, she's a singer, she should know better..."

"If she's a singer, she should know just how much work is put into the production of one song so for a singer to download illegally is shocking."

"She is in the wrong but I don't think apologizing to Taeyeon is necessary, puts her in an awkward spot. Taeyeon isn't even saying anything about it."

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Source: Pann

1. [+110, -15] A singer is streaming an illegally uploaded song ㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+106, -6] Don't shield this, even if she didn't download it, she still streamed a song that was uploaded illegally

3. [+102, -5] More accurately speaking, the person who uploaded the song is the one committing the illegal act, although she's in the wrong for listening to that illegal song too

4. [+55, -2] I'm a fan, and this is her fault. Especially considering she's a singer, it is her fault and I have no intention of shielding her. However, she deleted the offending post and apologized immediately. I actually like her more for that, for not hiding behind her agency and for apologizing bravely like that.

5. [+35, -31] You all do the same thing, why so hypocritical to idols!!!!

6. [+33, -4] If this is illegal, then does listening to songs on YouTube count as illegal too?

7. [+25, -3] Whether you listen to illegal streams or download illegal songs is up to you but do that privately. Why upload that to SNS and prove it? That's thoughtless.

8. [+24, -3] She didn't download it, she streamed it... which is still problematic

9. [+17, -1] She was really fast with the apology

10. [+15, -0] I hope Nayeon's more careful after this ㅠㅠ Sorry to Taeyeon and Taeyeon fans!


source: pann & instiz via netizenbuzz

did she even download it or was she just listening to the song on soundcloud? anyway nagl as an artist herself
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8. [+24, -3] She didn't download it, she streamed it... which is still problematic

Image

Out of all the things to actually be concern about........

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Date: 2016-02-21 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ggumd.livejournal.com
at least she apologized quickly although this is embarrasing for her *if* (isn't she just listening from soundcloud?) she did download it illegally being a singer and all lol and to the people going "lol all my songs are downloaded illegally who cares" there's a big difference between us normal people downloading shit illegally and singers themselves two completely different situations im trying to understand why that's such a hard concept to understand its common sense? lol
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Date: 2016-02-21 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staaan.livejournal.com
mte but you just know the comments are gonna be like "what's the big deal?? i dl music illegally all the time!!!"

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Date: 2016-02-21 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starsofmorning.livejournal.com
"I'm glad she gave feedback but I'm still disappointed in her and she should apologize to Taeyeon directly."

These people need other things to do besides getting so pressed over such inconsequential things, smh.

Date: 2016-02-21 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ggumd.livejournal.com
this part killed me "should apologize to taeyeon directly" lol I doubt taeyeon cares

Date: 2016-02-21 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwikimart.livejournal.com
sakfjakfjaka Taeyeon should apologize to her for that song
anyway everyone does this, including companies that fine and punish people for doing it
the game is the game!
she was careless tho, in getting caught, come on now TWICE

op what did you think of taemin's song btw : )

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Date: 2016-02-21 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwikimart.livejournal.com
"5. [+35, -31] You all do the same thing, why so hypocritical to idols!!!!"

right sis! who gives a tiny rat fuque honestly, people are just dehydrated

Date: 2016-02-21 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smilla-sini.livejournal.com
"she deleted the offending post"
"she streamed it... which is still problematic"

A new category in Problematic Kpop.

Date: 2016-02-21 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabulousdoll.livejournal.com
Kind of OT but at the same time not because is about Twice:
I usually don't get too much into fandoms, but I'm starting to do it for Twice and I think this is not for me. The stans and the haters are too much. I guess this comes with their fast popularity but seeing all the people go crazy for the dumbest thing and the fans attacking other groups just because is driving me crazy. Why it has to be all a war? I feel like I should go to "just like" the groups.

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Date: 2016-02-21 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mlmello.livejournal.com
I think this is more embarrassing than problematic.

Date: 2016-02-21 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chastainy.livejournal.com
she doesn't wanna support that demon! i don't blame ha
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Date: 2016-02-21 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbutterlion.livejournal.com
why would she support it and take the risk of having ha own song falling down on the charts lmao?? idk but this is so funny to me, if i was a singer id fuck up so easily my god

Date: 2016-02-21 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
if I was a singer I would be constatly having scandals for not knowing how to shut up

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Date: 2016-02-21 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rennehollic.livejournal.com
such a problematic child, streaming songs! I think JYP has to release an official statment towards this issue, it's too much and only shows how wild this child is


seriously?

Date: 2016-02-21 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missshallelujah.livejournal.com
I'm more offended she was stupid enough to post it on instagram, girl use those brain cells.

Date: 2016-02-21 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torontok.livejournal.com
Taeyeon doesn't have an official soundcloud so even if she was just streaming it, it's illegal.
And yeah, I can see why it's nagl considering the whole sunbae/hoobae angle+ as a singer herself she knows how reliant they are on the charts and legal streaming services

Date: 2016-02-21 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swhyeon1991.livejournal.com
Taeyawn doesn't have an official soundcloud so even if she was just streaming it, it's illegal.

Mte idg why ppl can't comprehend this.
Anyways she can stream illegally all she wants but to actually post that on IG is just lmao.

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Date: 2016-02-21 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladybee12.livejournal.com
lmao poor bb, she's just trying to stan a bit!

Date: 2016-02-21 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leopolitan.livejournal.com
shes so relatable <3

Date: 2016-02-21 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redgreendress.livejournal.com
lol yeah

Can I just be a realist for one second? I don't think I know anyone who hasn't listened to a song illegally, whether they downloaded it or they listened to it on youtube before the copyright police got to it. She *should* apologize because she's a singer and she's held to a higher standard, and, yes, this isn't something that should be advocated, but let's stop pretending it isn't something we've all done (remember those great album listening posts right here on this comm?)
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Date: 2016-02-21 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyungmoney.livejournal.com
embarrassing yea, but this is like, rly a non issue lmao

Date: 2016-02-22 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelrainna.livejournal.com
i don't think it's a super big deal that she should get hate for, but i don't think it's a non issue. it's good that she apologized.

(just copypasting this from a comment i posted earlier lol:) i don't know any official kpop soundcloud accounts. i doubt taeyeon/sm would have one. most official stuff posted on soundcloud is by indie artists, mixtapes/bsides from big names. so if taeyeon's rain was on soundcloud, it was probably illegally downloaded/uploaded by someone who is not the actual owner of the song. that's why it's bad. it's technically not pirating anything, but streaming that there is still ripping artists off.

Date: 2016-02-21 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myrrhcat.livejournal.com
her being a singer makes it more ironic, but that's the only difference i can see vs. any other person doing it. where exactly is the problem

Date: 2016-02-21 08:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-02-21 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violoncelliste.livejournal.com
like most people i agree that it's mostly embarrassing, as a singer she really should have known better aw girl come on

but for us ordinary people... seriously if i paid even for 30% of music i listen to i wouldn't have money for food. And I love people who think that everyone in the world pays in dollars. an album with 13 songs on itunes is 3 weeks of food ;( i wish i could be less selective about what i buy

Date: 2016-02-21 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mya13.livejournal.com
does she even have spare change to buy music? like honestly if this wasn't a group that just debuted then it would be embarrassing but... that's not the case. honestly who cares. my debtfull ass would not spend a penny on music even if i were a singer.

Date: 2016-02-22 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kjc48.livejournal.com
+1111 mte!
you get it lol

Date: 2016-02-21 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pineapple-soda.livejournal.com
aw this was a bit silly, but it's good she apologized quickly and hopefully it all blows over soon

Date: 2016-02-21 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ggumd.livejournal.com
lol of course this turns into a shitting on taeyeon post which is fine but hypocritical, I'll keep an eye out for future posts about other groups and their stans crying "persecution1!!1" at every non positive comment in their posts *looks at some of the hypocritical users in this post doing the most while crying in previous posts about negative comments 👀*

Date: 2016-02-21 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitthoselightz.livejournal.com
this delicious darjeeling rn

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Date: 2016-02-21 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bomsnose.livejournal.com
if she expects to be paid after her own streams...
*edit i still don't know how to say this properly in english lol
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Date: 2016-02-21 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skidadler.livejournal.com

Maybe her ears wanted a test drive before buying it?

Date: 2016-02-21 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitthoselightz.livejournal.com
i think she did download it because when i play something on sc and lock my screen the cover art doesnt show up
anyway, regardless of which it is, its embarrassing esp since shes an artist herself.
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