[identity profile] benihime99.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] omonatheydid
JYP Entertainment releases an official statement today, explaining TWICE member Tzuyu‘s video statement. This seems to be in response to the recent DDos attack on its website and to accusations that the agency forced Tzuyu to apologize.

The agency explains that because Tzuyu is a minor, they waited until her parents arrived in Korea and discussed things with Tzuyu. Together, they decided to release a statement from Tzuyu. JYP emphasized that “a company cannot and should not force a belief on a person,” and that no such act occurred in the matter with Tzuyu. It concluded that the Tzuyu’s parents desired that this controversy die down quickly and they asked that many continue to support Tzuyu.

Before this official statement, the Korean media was reporting on a comment that Tzuyu’s mother made to a Taiwanese news source in which she said, “I hope that this situation will die down quickly so that my daughter can joyfully sing and dance again.” She also thanked everyone for their concern. The source also said her mom was in Korea taking care of her daughter.

In related news, it is being reported that Taiwanese netizens are planning to hold demonstrations this coming January 24 at Taipei to denounce singer Huang An, who is cited at the person sparked the controversy.

Taiwanese singer Huang An, who opposes Taiwanese independence from China, described Tzuyu as a Taiwanese independence supporter after seeing her hold the Taiwanese flag to show her nationality the the internet broadcast/ variety show “My Little Television. With the Taiwanese presidential elections taking place, the issue of Tzuyu’s nationality became more and more controversial with Taiwanese and Chinese netizens, politicians, and media taking sides. Since then, Tzuyu, TWICE, and 2PM have had their activities in China affected, JYP, Tzuyu, and Park Jin Young, head of JYP, apologized to China, and the JYP website was attacked by hackers who did not like the fact that Tzuyu apologized.

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Date: 2016-01-18 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yohan94.livejournal.com
it's so nice to hear she wasn't forced and that there were responsible adults around her to help her make the decision she wanted.
Edited Date: 2016-01-18 12:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-18 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tungatunga.livejournal.com
I honestly can't with people claiming JYPE innocent victim in this all, they make business in China for how many years now? And they have no idea how Chinese politics works,like Koreans market is any better with honest to god business practice, no backdoor deals, no using ones influence to disadvantage inconvenient competitors, pffff.

Date: 2016-01-18 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellicoptajuuce.livejournal.com
nnnnnn @ this backfiring on that old ballsac, even China is shitting on him. what kinda Game of thrones twist

Date: 2016-01-18 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gathyou.livejournal.com
Well... She would have probably done anything she could to make it better, so it wouldn't have been hard for JYPE to have her do the video. It can sound like they're telling the truth, but also that they're spacing themselves from the apology video and the process that led to them uploading it on their youtube channel with an official trademark.
The only positive thing I'm taking from this is that her parents were with her during all this mess, and that her mother is still in Korea.
I was on holidays and I had to go through all the Twice posts to understand, wtf. Poor girl, I feel so sorry for her. Huang An can fall in a pit of shit for all I care for, he's so disgusting

Date: 2016-01-18 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcticgaze.livejournal.com
I'm loving the Taiwanese netizens right now.
Edited Date: 2016-01-18 01:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-18 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mintychocolat.livejournal.com
aww I'm glad to hear her mother is in Korea with her and that she isn't going through this alone. C:
I hope netizens turn on Huang An and he gets what he deserves. :/

Date: 2016-01-18 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yumi99.livejournal.com
well.. with JYPE's history of forcing apologies from people...

Date: 2016-01-18 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeyfunnybunny.livejournal.com
Not a fan but feel very sorry for her, seems like every side is out to use her and none of them actually think about her at all.

I know Taiwanese politicians have mentioned her etc, but to me it came off as the fact that she had to deny being Taiwanese is what made them upset, not that she a 16 year girl was being thrown under the bus :/

Also Huang An released a statement lol, it's pretty confusing but he is back-pedaling.. Though some have turned against him, most are pretty supportive and his followers increase by like 10k daily :/ (though that probably has something to do with him being shunned by Taiwan, and not used as a pro-independence icon that they're still doing to Tzuyu), and the negative ones I've seen are mostly telling him and JYPE to 狗带 together (and calling him confusing/hypocrite) lol

But yeah JYPE you really stepped in it. Honestly I still can't believe they sat around and didn't do anything for the first couple days, and when they did it was in the wrong direction. And also that thing with the agency asking for a replacement for twice or money back, and JYPE's side literally just made them lose 面子. if your guanxi is bad to begin with don't have the same mindset that you have while working in Korea :/ one mistake is literally all it takes to become a public enemy,
Edited Date: 2016-01-18 03:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-19 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jazzy4heard.livejournal.com
What did Huang An say? that douche..

This poor child! The New York Times & CNN!

Date: 2016-01-18 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candyaddicted.livejournal.com
I feel so sorry for this poor child!

It is amazing how a child holding a flag of the country she was born in has become an international incident!

Here in the New York Times - TWICE

Flag-Waiving Teen Pop Star Unites Fractious Taiwan
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/01/16/world/asia/ap-as-taiwan-china-flag-controversy.html?_r=1

and here

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/world/asia/taiwan-china-singer-chou-tzu-yu.html

and American CNN
Pop star's apology stirs anger
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/16/asia/taiwan-election/index.html

and the daily mail uk! I feel so sorry for this poor child! She just wants to sing and dance!
/edited to fix links
Edited Date: 2016-01-18 04:36 pm (UTC)

Re: This poor child! The New York Times & CNN!

Date: 2016-01-18 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pippopippo.livejournal.com
The BBC and Washington Post wrote about her too. I can't believe this got so huge. ;_; Poor Tzuyu.

Date: 2016-01-18 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sayuridoll.livejournal.com
Yesterday I read one of the American articles about it and I forgot who but someone wrote something along the lines of "She sings for a total of 37 seconds in their debut song" and for some odd reason I find it funny that some random journalist got curious and timed how long she sang, lol.
Edited Date: 2016-01-18 05:22 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-18 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sayuridoll.livejournal.com
I'm glad to hear that they brought her parents over. I can't imagine going through that kind of controversy alone. She's only a child.
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Date: 2016-01-18 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-keiko.livejournal.com
EXACTLY. ALL OF THIS.

Date: 2016-01-18 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theharleyquinn.livejournal.com
ia with all of this. It's impossible to look at this from the frame of an entertaient scandal by itseld.

Date: 2016-01-18 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabulousdoll.livejournal.com
What angers me is that so many news outlets didn't mention that HE started everything.
I could not agree more with you at this. I cannot believe how many news were reporting things like he wasn't the main instigator of this problem.

Date: 2016-01-18 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiku-cha8-8.livejournal.com
I'm glad that Tzuyu wasn't apparently forced, but I wish JYP could have been in the video with her. The way they filmed it made it seem like they were throwing her underneath the bus. I'm glad that people are rallying behind her.

Also apparently Huang An, that guy that called her out, has a video of him waving the Taiwanese flag around. I don't know how old the video is, but the tables are being turned on him right now.

link here (http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2016/01/jyp-denies-tzuyus-apology-was-forced-by.html)

Date: 2016-01-18 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovejae23.livejournal.com
eh, JYPE, eh. it was a difficult situation overall but it seems like you're just trying to save face. imo that video was still a poor choice. it could have ended a lot quicker if jype just released a written statement right after it happened. it's obvious that tzuyu was uncomfortable and scared af in that video. taiwanese netizens are still pretty pissed at jype from what i can tell but i'm sure it'll blow over (because you know, opinions aren't censored and people still have the choice to like jype artists even if the party in charge of the government doesn't lol)

but i'm glad that douche face huang finally got burned on his end. he's back pedaling so fast and I'm surprised he still has the balls to go back to taiwan. he's kind of fucked on both sides and i'm very happy about it.

Date: 2016-01-19 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charlieu.livejournal.com
"t could have ended a lot quicker if jype just released a written statement right after it happened."

Why do people keep saying this? Isn't it obvious tzuyu actually believes in an independant taiwan? Why would JYP force her to denounce something she believes? They were backed into a corner and released an apology because it became bigger than just her and her group.

Date: 2016-01-20 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovejae23.livejournal.com
"Why would JYP force her to denounce something she believes?"
but that's what ended up happening?

if what you're saying is true, it's naive to think that jype could have "protected" tzuyu at the beginning. china would have 100% block tzuyu/jype if the media is portraying tzuyu as pro independent. that should have been clear from the beginning given china's track records & how tightly they controlled the independent taiwan issue in the media.
i think they could have appeased china if jype had just released a signed statement at the very beginning, then there would be no need for a video or all the mess that followed. it's way harder to have to say on camera what you don't believe in rather than just sign a piece of paper.

Date: 2016-01-20 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charlieu.livejournal.com
What's naive is to say everyone knew how big and the amount of coverage this was going to get. Hindsight is 20/20. She became a symbol and tool in Chinese/Taiwanese politics and it was not something anybody could have predicted. You honestly thought holding a flag would have done this?

And like I said before, it was only after it became much bigger and affecting so many more that they were forced to apologize. And it was after a conversation with her family, not a kneejerk reaction to protect his own interest.

Date: 2016-01-20 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovejae23.livejournal.com
they should have know right after huang called her out lol. everyone who huang has posted on his weibo basically got banned from china. she didn't have to become a a symbol for china to block her&jype. it was clear that china was going to block/bash anyone who even has anything to do with taiwanese independence.
my point is that they shouldn't have waited until china explicitly said they were going to blackball everyone.... it should have been assumed from the start. then tzuyu wouldn't have to get in front of the camera.
"And it was after a conversation with her family, not a kneejerk reaction to protect his own interest."
and this is what i mean by jype is just covering its own ass because i don't believe for one second that they would have not gotten tzuyu to apologize and say all those things even if her family didn't want her to.

Date: 2016-01-21 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charlieu.livejournal.com
"and this is what i mean by jype is just covering its own ass because i don't believe for one second that they would have not gotten tzuyu to apologize and say all those things even if her family didn't want her to."

What are you talking about? That point is moot, because he already did it after talking to her family. And he didn't force her to apologize right off the bat, which would have been "JYP only protecting his own ass." That's the thing, people are creating narratives of what they think and should have happened after all things were said and done. Bottomline, his interest was in Tzuyu and protecting her, whether it was smart or not. Obviously it didn't work out, so he talked to her family and made decisions based on that. That's what we know.

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