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Security forces in the South Korean capital Seoul have clashed with protesters during one of the country's biggest street rallies in recent years.
Police used tear gas and water cannons against demonstrators demanding the resignation of conservative President Park Geun-hye.
Tens of thousands of people of took part in the march, according to police.
It brought together various groups, including trade unions opposed to the president's business-friendly policies.
Others were protesting against the imposition of state-approved history schoolbooks, which they say whitewash South Korea's past dictatorships.
Many marchers chanted "Park Geun-hye, step down''. Security forces fired tear gas when some of them tried to break through police barricades as they moved towards the presidency.
Park Geun-hye, South Korea's first female president, was elected two years ago.
She is pushing through controversial plans to make labour markets more flexible by giving employers more leeway in dismissing workers.


미숙한 영어실력이지만 도움이 될까 싶어 올립니다.
Hello, below are brief description of Korea 's current ongoing protest. #PrayForKorea pic.twitter.com/wxyyyRqyGP

— 류하 (@ryuh0525) November 14, 2015















BBC | @ryuh0525 |
@GabrielNotes via ohmynews

Video

Date: 2015-11-14 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hipployta.livejournal.com
물대포 직사포를 맞고 허무하게 튕켜나가며 그래로 쓰러진 사람 위로 계속 물대포를 쏘고, 달려가 부축해 일으키려는 시민들을 향해 또 물대포를 쏘는.. 이것은 분명히 살인의도를 지녔다고밖에 볼 수 없다.
http://twitter.com/ThenewsCom/status/665489031061311488/video/1

https://twitter.com/paris_jang/status/665529748966219780
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Date: 2015-11-15 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakuniku-8.livejournal.com
That's so sad.

Date: 2015-11-14 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastelpinklace.livejournal.com
Nothing good can come out of a conservative president, this is horrible and i hope the korean people prevail.

Date: 2015-11-14 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seulgibear.livejournal.com
i was following this today on twitter. ugh the world is going crazy :( it feels like for the past 2 weeks there's been tragedy after tragedy and general unrest everywhere
this fucking sucks and it's heartbreaking. park is in turkey right now anyway

Date: 2015-11-14 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tjmok125.livejournal.com
I was just speaking with someone about this how literally I felt like in America all this unrest is going to give way to something huge and the same with whats going on in the rest of the world ,but honestly it is needed not only to wake people up ,but for them to become active in world affairs again since we have become complacent.

For me the issue lies in race relations in America and how we are in the process of another civil rights movement. and while its upsetting how "chaotic" things are getting since I was so used to just accepting things as they were before I am somewhat glad we are no longer tossing issues like these under the rug. I feel like for korea and all of the other countries it is the same. They literally tried to get over and continue being ,but it literally got to the point where you can no longer just close your mouth and be complacent and now they are being active in changing things for the better.

Date: 2015-11-14 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seulgibear.livejournal.com
indeed, i too am happy that people are starting to wake up and refusing to eat the crap the politicians are serving them.

last week, there was a very similar situation in romania, thousands of people marching on the street disgruntled with the government after 50 people died in an explosion. we had the same problem last year around the presidential elections and finally the government resigned last week. but now that it happened, i'm scared people are going to think of we achieved our goal and start to not care anymore. i do have faith in the my generation, who seems to take an interest and paying more attention to politics, that they're not gonna take it anymore.
what i hope is that this unrest everywhere will end well for the people and make up for the suffering and all the lives lost.

Date: 2015-11-15 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxyumekaxx.livejournal.com
I feel it's a bit different for europe.
First a mass of immigrants and countries who don't know how to deal with them and now what's happened in Paris...the opinions were already split but I get the feeling that now it's going to be real bad. And not just for syrians but muslims in general. It's horrible.
I also fear that right-wing groups will gain even more traction over this whole ordeal and I'm not sure what that could possibly mean to me if they'd ever gain the upper hand.

The handling of the protest in SK is upsetting. I really hope that the public's wishes change something.

Date: 2015-11-15 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seulgibear.livejournal.com
there's definitely a high chance of the situation turning ugly for the refugees. i went on facebook for like 5 minutes today and all i could see were people talking about how we were warned about terrorist attacks if we let them in. no one even thought that this might have been an attack from the very people they are fleeing from. french politics have been scary for the past couple of years; the uk's too. and i'm not very educated on the matter to speak about it or truly know how rotten they really are. i hope you are safe :(

Date: 2015-11-15 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugakookies.livejournal.com
UK politics is grim right now. And I'm 90% sure that this 'distraction'*** re: paris will be used to push through legislation no one wants because ISN'T THAT THE WAY.
As a student I am so horrifically scared of what is going to happen when I graduate in July. Jobs/housing/finances are basically fucked unless you're rich.

But with the issues of refugees i can see this getting really ugly, really quickly. Which is what ISIS want, imo. They want the west to be divided and sustain the hate so they have more fuel for their agenda :((

edit: forgot to add ***i don't think paris is a distraction, obvs what happened was horrific. :((((( but governments like to use these sorts of things to make it less obvious they're pushing through controversial agendas.
Edited Date: 2015-11-15 02:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-11-15 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nana-the-dwarf.livejournal.com
I was thinking about this as I read the news yesterday and have actually discussed with friends. Have thought about it before. I don't know whether I -or we I guess- were too young before to really take notice of what was happening in the world or if there really is this crazy wave of violence and hatred and it's escalating as everyday passes.

There's always something happening anywhere in the world, man-made, you know? And I don't know what to do except feel helplessness for what seems a very bleak future.

Going a bit personal here, but it's actually one of the reasons why I have no plans if having kids, because what use of bringing children into a world filled with all this hatred and violence? The world just keeps getting crazier and crazier.
Edited Date: 2015-11-15 01:46 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-11-15 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tjmok125.livejournal.com
Im not a parent ,but practically raising my little brothers yes I am upset they have to grow up in this world ,but at the same time they make living in this kind of world worth living ya know?

I cant really explain it ,but I am sure the process of nurturing a little one more than makes up for the fear that the world will beat and destroy them. Especially when you see them overcome those very things that try to keep them down.

lol I feel like I am not making sense now ,but I don't think I can let hatred and violence have that much control over me that I am fearful enough to not enjoy my life and have kids, if I did I would just be doing exactly what it intended in the first place.

Date: 2015-11-15 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nana-the-dwarf.livejournal.com
I think I do understand what you mean (even so I still don't want kids, lol). However, with the crazyness pretty much in your backyard, and living through it makes it really hard to remember that there are good people and good things as well.

Date: 2015-11-15 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seulgibear.livejournal.com
We might have been, but I am sure it has been escalating over the past few years/a decade. It's like human kind is degrading. It's sad and it's going to be depressing for a while longer. I'm living in London rn and who knows what tf can happen here too.

I think it's quite sad that the world has got to a point that does not encourage life. Not that it's not a valid choice with a valid reason, I'm not so sure I want children myself, but you know, we can't let it go on like this forever and we can maybe raise educated, tolerant children and things can change little by little. It's terrifying rn, but we can't just let it go to the dump completely. I don't know what's with this optimism lol I'm trying not to let myself break down. I've had a little bit of faith restored by how things back home in Romania were handled recently, I want to believe there are people like that everywhere :(

Date: 2015-11-14 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unicornios.livejournal.com
Damn, yesterday and today have been so hard :c

This is worst than I expected when I entered the post. I hope the freedom of speech can prevail.
Edited Date: 2015-11-14 11:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-11-15 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wishesgranted.livejournal.com
This is just horrible. A lot has happened in the past couple of days. I hope for everyone's safety.

Date: 2015-11-15 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slowitdownbaby.livejournal.com
This weekend has been so crazy, it's like non-stop chaos.
I just reda that they're spraying people with water laced with tear gas and oil + GASSING the underground subway lines in order to prevent anyone from returning home from the site :(

Date: 2015-11-15 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tree-star123.livejournal.com
sad news all around. scary to see tear gas used for all protests. i hope they are safe and can go home safely :((

Date: 2015-11-15 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sra-interesante.livejournal.com
i wonder if there's other ways to control protesters .... like keep them in peace without hurting them

teary gas and water cannons are really common on protest on my country tho .... i don't know if that's a good or a bad thing because here some people actually goes to protest just to hurt police force and make a mess

if protesters are peaceful police must be peaceful too, but if protesters are making vandalism there should be some control too for the sake of people that went to protest for a good reason

Date: 2015-11-15 01:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jeliza
There are lots of crowd control/protest management techniques that aren't going to injure people, especially when what is being managed is a planned protest, and not a spontaneous riot. But as police militarization has increased pretty much everywhere, they are bringing out the "less lethal' (what a phrase that is, for things that will hurt but shouldn't kill) and riot gear right away -- which only escalates the situation as then the protesters get (rightfully) scared.

Date: 2015-11-15 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infadel-x.livejournal.com
the censorship on portal sites was horrible. I found a livestream of the protest by getting OUT of naver and nate and moving to a smaller news site. none of the articles regarding the protest reached the main page despite related keywords on the search ranking for hours. i've tried reading the few articles that made it into naver and they remained scarily neutral.

Date: 2015-11-15 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwikimart.livejournal.com
This is so wild, I've never experienced something like that.
Can you access sites outside of SK?

Date: 2015-11-15 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infadel-x.livejournal.com
I'm not in SK currently so I wouldn't know. But censorship in SK is not about blockage but making it harder to access. If I venture out of the main sites the news are all there - but most people, especially older gens won't do that, they simply don't because they don't care enough to and don't have the incentive to.

Date: 2015-11-15 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kwikimart.livejournal.com
Love and solidarity to everyone involved, especially the man that was injured.
The past few days have been so fucking terrible.
I am 'glad' to see things like this, in that it's always uplifting in a way to see that people will try to resist injustice even if it's at a cost to their personal safety and comfort. I respect what they are demanding but it depresses me that they have to even do this and that they are being suppressed like this.

I don't know much about the labor rights movement in South Korea so this was a great help as a jump off point. Thanks OP and mods!

Date: 2015-11-15 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smilla-sini.livejournal.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sNjzWssn1Y - you can check this trailer for a documentary about Korean Confederation of Trade Unions, it is short, but shows some important events.
Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minjung

Date: 2015-11-15 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smilla-sini.livejournal.com
More from yesterday:
http://newstapa.org/30043
http://pictorial.hani.co.kr/slide.hani?sec1=002&sec2=001&sec3=401&seq=0&_fr=mt2
Newstapa were covering the rally yesterday (they still do, from the hospital), you can find a lot on twitter:
https://twitter.com/newstapa

Date: 2015-11-15 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakuniku-8.livejournal.com
Shit! They were just protesting. The president may not realise it makes her look worse.

Date: 2015-11-15 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] friedchickeneu.livejournal.com
I can never comprehend how a democratic country is being lead by a dictator
it's unfair how these silent protesters are being treated this way since no violence had had happened during their protest
the government in each country should always remember that these people are human beings, too, and if not for them, they wouldn't be sitting wherever they are right now.
it's also so disgusting how hushed up the media is about all of these when these kinds of things should be made public to the whole world in order to put a stop at this atrocity.

it's so scary how chaotic things have been happening within just a few days and i hope that everyone stays safe

Date: 2015-11-15 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amandaplan.livejournal.com
their media is shady. i remember my friend was in a public bus there last year and all of a sudden it was surrounded by stuff like this and she never found out any articles on the news about what it was about. scary.

Date: 2015-11-15 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonclouds.livejournal.com
I posted about this on Facebook yesterday and the post has received a bunch of shares from people I don't know. I've ended up getting threats from some conservative elements in Korea and been accused of spreading 'communist propaganda'. It's actually pretty scary.

Date: 2015-11-15 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlluvsviola.livejournal.com
You got threats for sharing a post on Facebook?
wow....

Date: 2015-11-18 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linnhe.livejournal.com
i read one of the dictators the president was trying to whitewash was her dad

Korea’s current PM, Park Geun hye has proposed to make complete alterations to the nation-wide textbook, consisting of heavily biased views about past events in order to manipulate and warp both history and its citizens. The new textbook condemns the Korean independence movement as well as glazing over the dictatorship of her father, erasing the history of thousands who were abused over his leadership."
source (http://fukumin99.tumblr.com/post/133210186865/kikasasucasa-please-reblog-peaceful-protesters) TW BLOOD

i'm embarrassed for her

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