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Yeonmi Park urges the west to recognise the suffering of North Koreans as country celebrates 70th anniversary

A young North Korean defector and human rights activist has urged the west to not consider dictator Kim Jong-un as a comic figure. “Please don’t see Kim Jong Un as a joke,” she told the Women in the World event in London. “He is killing millions of people.”

Yeonmi Park, a 22-year-old who fled to China before making it to South Korea, described the complete control the dictator had over her childhood. “I believed my dear leader could read my mind, I thought if I thought a bad thing he could punish me,” she said.

Park, who has written about her childhood in a harrowing autobiography, was speaking ahead of Saturday’s celebrations in Pyongyang for the 70th anniversary of the Korean Workers’ Party.



A young North Korean defector and human rights activist has urged the west to not consider dictator Kim Jong-un as a comic figure. “Please don’t see Kim Jong Un as a joke,” she told the Women in the World event in London. “He is killing millions of people.”

Yeonmi Park, a 22-year-old who fled to China before making it to South Korea, described the complete control the dictator had over her childhood. “I believed my dear leader could read my mind, I thought if I thought a bad thing he could punish me,” she said.

Park, who has written about her childhood in a harrowing autobiography, was speaking ahead of Saturday’s celebrations in Pyongyang for the 70th anniversary of the Korean Workers’ Party.


Kim Jong-un receives a delegation of the Communist party of China led by Liu Yunshan. Photograph: KCNA/Reuters


At a lavish military parade, Kim said that his country was ready to counter any threat posed by the United States.

Park urged the audience in London to not to take their freedoms for granted. “To me it’s not a joke. This [the west] is a paradise; it is a heaven,” she said. “He is a criminal, he is killing millions there, I hope we see him as not a joke.”

She gave an insight into the repression and fear that North Koreans continue to live under. “I grew up with fear. My mother told me not to whisper because the birds and mice might hear you,” she said.

“Most of all we are hungry, we don’t have the luxury of [thinking about] anything else apart from surviving,” adding that at one point she and her sister resorted to eating grasshoppers and dragon flies because there was no more rice.

When she was 13 she urged her mother to flee to China, after secretly watching Chinese television as a child. “I went for a bowl of rice,” she said. She told the audience that the first thing she saw was her mother being raped. Once in the country, she was sold as a worker for $260; her mother was sold for $65.
“The man who bought me couldn’t feed us, so it was better to sell her to someone who could feed her,” she said.

Age of 15 she crossed the Gobi desert into Mongolia, to reach South Korea. “I followed the northern stars to freedom,” she said. In a rare light moment she described being bewildered by escalators, not understanding why the ground was moving. “When I arrived, everything was shining,” she said. “I went to the toilet and the toilet paper had a flower on it, it smelt so good I thought I’m not going to use it for this reason. It was so pretty.”

She then became a “learning machine”, she added. “I learnt about the universe. I learnt about human rights and human dignity – this was so new to me. Freedom meant for me to wear earrings, not freedom of speech. I don’t think I will ever understand what freedom means, but I am enjoying learning.”

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1. [+804, -26] Can't believe 10 year old children are so hungry that they had to resort to eating grasshoppers and dragonflies to eat... ㅠㅠ That pig Jong Un needs to be turned into a barbecue and fed to the dogs

2. [+633, -18] What is there to blame with the people when they are simply living in the only place they can call home. They just have to follow the orders of the higher ups or else lose their homes.

3. [+579, -28] He is a funny pig though

4. [+45, -2] "Freedom to me means being able to wear earring" So sad...

5. [+36, -8] Does North Korea have plastic surgery hospitals too?

6. [+29, -8] Why do these North Korean runaway women always end up getting so much plastic surgery, like they ran away for the sole purpose of getting it ㅋㅋ So many of the runaways go overboard with it like they can't shed their old outdated ways

7. [+21, -4] But if she ran away when she was 13, that was when Kim Jong Il was in power..

8. [+16, -9] What's up with her face? She looks like a plastic monster. For someone who ran away when she was 13, what would she know about Kim Jong Un? Why is she trying to get attention like this about things she has no knowledge about to make a quick buck? People should be looking to runaways who were actually under Kim Jong Un's rule and have proper information. Some of the runaways these days are frustrating to observe.. they all get plastic surgery, are obsessed with luxury goods.. why become like that after all the suffering they did to run away?

9. [+14, -12] She ran away at 13... and she's in her twenties now so it's been 10 years? What would she know ㅋㅋㅋ why would she try to make money like this

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More about (and of) Park Yeonmi here, here, and here.

Source | Alexandra Topping for The Guardian, Yonhap News via Nate via Netizen Buzz

Date: 2015-10-13 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabulousdoll.livejournal.com
Where is that pic about people missing the point? I think is needed for those comments...

I can't deal with people who take dictators as a joke and I'm not even speaking about North Korea specifically. I really think people don't realize the brainwashing that comes from dictatorships. It can end and people would still believe in their leaders. The damage is already done.

Date: 2015-10-13 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chimpansee.livejournal.com
Wtf @ people's priorities in the comments? Every time I think about the situation in North Korea and the ignorant attitude most of the world has towards it I get sad. I hope very much to see the North Korean people liberated in my lifetime, but I doubt that will happen..

Also, Yeonmi is so brave. Her story is unbearably sad.
Edited Date: 2015-10-13 08:29 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-10-13 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audiograms.livejournal.com
really why is her looks a concern???

Date: 2015-10-13 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jrt131n.livejournal.com
5,6,7,8 and 9

Image

Did ya'll even read the article or???????

Date: 2015-10-13 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bomsnose.livejournal.com
kim jong un should be seen as a joke by the people whom he oppresses, that's the way out of oppression. not going to happen soon, north korea is too isolated for them to see different perspectives (maybe around the border...?).
satire is one of the many factors that helped eastern europe to (partially) get rid of oppression. making fun of the party was controlled/censored, you could get punished, etc. so do take kim jong un seriously, but north koreans should make fun of him.

also i normally don't like really plastic faces, but then if it's someone from north korea... i'm just glad they're out of there and will support them with whatever steps they need for self-acceptance. most of them won't ever fit in elsewhere, so yeah, i hope she kind of learns freedom!
well, i'm still learning freedom in some ways, and i'm not even from nk.

Date: 2015-10-13 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steelsigns.livejournal.com
smh at some of these comments, keyboard warriors indeed

edit: whoops, I should specify, NETIZENS' comments*
Edited Date: 2015-10-13 07:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-10-13 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myrrhcat.livejournal.com
damn, nobody's PS is your business but especially not a fucking north korean defector's???

Date: 2015-10-13 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iznanassi.livejournal.com
way to miss the point lol

i think maybe in the case of south korea it's understandable why they would not take NK seriously, they're in direct conflict (i guess..??) with him every day so the best way to de-escalate is to ignore it/not take it seriously. but for other people it just leads to apathy so...

Date: 2015-10-13 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowmog.livejournal.com
In terms of threats of invasion or attack, the general public are mostly apathetic. The North threatens the South pretty much every year without doing anything about it. The SK government still take every threat seriously, but they are currently the only ones that do. The majority of threats get reported in Korean media, but rarely make international media headlines.

Generally I'd say the public are aware of what goes on in the North but it's easier to turn a blind eye to what's going on, much like how many people can walk past those that are homeless on the street. However there are charities and those that protest for more to be done to help North Koreans and defectors. I remember reading about South Koreans sending balloons tied to parcels of Chocopies (a kind of Korean mini cake that's really popular) over the DMZ every year. It is also very difficult for South Koreans to intervene directly with the North. Straying over the DMZ will get you shot and mass movement of South Koreans into the North could break the cease fire and restart the war.

Date: 2015-10-13 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suxaholic.livejournal.com
one would think South koreans took this more seriously but alas they focus on somebody's looks,
not that I am surprised

Date: 2015-10-13 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waterincups.livejournal.com
friendly reminder: translated comments from nbuzz don't reflect sk public opinion.

Date: 2015-10-13 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suxaholic.livejournal.com
not necessarily but apparently you have not been to SK
Edited Date: 2015-10-13 11:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-10-14 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waterincups.livejournal.com
no, i'm korean.

sorry if i assumed you weren't korean or haven't lived in kr (?). it'd be one thing if you only criticized these netizens themselves, but your comment itself reeks of pretty unfair generalizations about koreans, esp considering these clickbait, controversial comments (as expected from nb :/) don't actually reflect sk's view on nk runaway speakers.

(i get defensive bc i often see ifans on tumblr and omona making unfair generalizations of koreans based on like, a few translated, comments from nb. it's pretty ridiculous and frustrating.)

Date: 2015-10-14 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suxaholic.livejournal.com
I am not Korean but I have been to SK. I gtt what you are saying and I agree about a lot of people making kind of harsh generalizations and I definitely misspoke. What I was getting at was that it is a very typical SK troll comments when it comes to these kind of issues especially nate which is one bustop before ilbe at least to me

Date: 2015-10-14 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waterincups.livejournal.com
you must not have interacted with a lot of koreans then. we're not that superficial lmao.

your original comment didn't read that way, but i agree that these comments seem like they're written by trolls. i wish ifans would stop caring about knets' comments, especially the nbuzz ones because they're basically the equivalent of gross comments you can find on reddit or youtube.

Date: 2015-10-13 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miwa201.livejournal.com
honestly, this post would have been fine without the netizen comments. idk why op included them.

recently i read the article about the north korean defector (i can't remember his name) who betrayed his mother and brother (who were then hanged). it was so sad. the concentration camps are beyond fucked up.

Date: 2015-10-13 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chimpansee.livejournal.com
You're thinking about Shin Donghyuk. I recently read a lot about him and watched some of his speeches at universities etc, his story is so horrific. I know he's gotten criticised a lot for changing his story several times but imo that only shows how traumatized he has been. God knows the things he has seen. I think he said he was still ''evolving from being animal''. :/

Date: 2015-10-13 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juhli.livejournal.com
everything that happened to her was so awful...and she's still so young :(

i think it should be okay to joke about him while you acknowledge the horrendous situation north koreans are in. paying this guy respect shouldnt be the way.

not aimed to this post, but lately i've been noticing how a lot of comments here only reply to the shit-stirring translated netizen reactions and not to the actual content of the article.

Date: 2015-10-13 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowmog.livejournal.com
*sigh* She may have had her face changed or altered so that any family back in North Korea won't suffer any repercussions if she were to be recognised by an official in North Korea. Her name has likely been changed too.

Date: 2015-10-13 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dafairyness.livejournal.com
Nope. The dprk knows who she is. Last year at the UN they even played a little movie of her friends and neighbors talking about "how terrible" and "what a liar" she is.

Date: 2015-10-14 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowmog.livejournal.com
Thanks for letting me know. Should have done my research before I commented really.

Date: 2015-10-13 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redgreendress.livejournal.com
This is why I keep saying Kim Jong Un jokes are not as funny as late night American television seems to think it is, and also why that Seth Rogen/James Franco movie was completely tone deaf and unfunny. I'm not saying satire "can't go there," John Oliver and Jon Stewart have done a great job of mocking psycho world leaders without actually making a mockery of the dire reality of the millions of people oppressed, starved, tortured and killed by these regimes. John Oliver's message delivery is always crystal clear with that DS segment about the middle East where he plays Sir Archibald Mapsalot III, a British imperialist with an over the top posh accent, and explains why "the Arabs respect nothing like a strong, steady white hand drawing arbitrary lines twixt their ridiculous tribal allegiances." That's good satire made about a serious life-and-death issue, where the joke landed perfectly and it didn't exploit any tragedy––and, you know, it's funny because it's true. So good satire can be done. But when Seth Rogen says "it's satire" to defend his North Korea cringe comedy movie I'm always thinking, yeah, it's an attempt at satire that failed miserably. It wasn't funny, and it reduced North Korea to a comedy playground, just there for the amusement of privileged white dudes with too much time and money on their hands. Meanwhile people like Park Yeonmi are living a life of constant fear, being brainwashed by the North Korean education system to be afraid. “I thought if I thought a bad thing he could punish me,” she said.
Edited Date: 2015-10-13 09:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-10-14 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abcd123.livejournal.com
IA so much @ Your thoughts on the interview, I hate how much love the interview got for "showing power over" North Korea or whatever they're saying about it. I can't find it right now but I read a really interesting tumblr post about the real comedy of North Korea - something about how two comedians went to North Korea to hoping to satirize the North Koreans right in front of them , but end up leaving horrified. Another thing I read about how we're playing right into their hands by satirizing them and completely ignoring the real issues going on because it's all masked by stuff like the interview and Internet memes about North Korea... It just makes me so angry.

Date: 2015-10-14 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liarose.livejournal.com
That movie just farther in making him into another harmless funny looking asian guy a la PSY, its so wrong and as she said western people (and the world really...) should stop doing it

Date: 2015-10-13 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ah0000.livejournal.com
I really want to read her book. Will it be in Korean? If so I hope it gets translated. (Edit: just ordered it, it is in English!) I have read a few books about NK and actually right now I'm reading Escaping North Korea by Mike Kim. None of this is new info but it's still horrifying to read every time. Dear Leader was by far the most interesting one I've read.

Bc of the last NK post I started following that one guy on Instagram who posts about being in NK. It's so jarring to me, and like ppl were saying before it's very obviously propaganda but still I can't wrap my mind around it. And I know it's Pyongyang so that obviously is why it's so different. I hope when he leaves (if he is able to....) he writes a tell all about what he wasn't able to post.
Edited Date: 2015-10-13 11:19 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-10-14 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undeniablysarah.livejournal.com
Oh I would love to read some of these books u mentioned. Which do you recommend starting with first?

Date: 2015-10-15 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] typhlogirl.livejournal.com
Threadjacking, but I've read a few books about NK and I'd recommend starting with Nothing To Envy (http://www.amazon.com/Nothing-Envy-Ordinary-Lives-North/dp/0385523912), as it's a collection of six stories from NK defectors and presents a good overview of everything, tbh. I'd then move on to The Aquariums of Pyongyang and Escape from Camp 14, both of which are single stories - the former from someone who was sent to the death camps with his family when he was 10, and the latter written by a man actually born in one of the camps.

Date: 2015-10-14 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tungatunga.livejournal.com
Did You by chance read "Kim Jong Il Prodcution"? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22537682-a-kim-jong-il-production
It's such a hard to belive story and amazing read, and have a lot of info on history of entertainment industry in SK and NK

Date: 2015-10-15 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ah0000.livejournal.com
Oh wow no I haven't - adding to my queue. Thanks!
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Date: 2015-10-15 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annhh.livejournal.com
I get what you mean. People kind of brush off any real talk and I don't know why, maybe it's too abstract to comprehend or people simply haven't learnt anything other than "well NK is crazy, it's always been like that". If I include NK in conversations I get "well that's a bit extreme". Like yeah it is but it's also happening right now just like all the other bad things elsewhere we were talking about.

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